my new hgh stack please review and give advice [16]

[Azie555]

1-20 weeks 5 iu everyday 2 iu in the monring and 3 iu before sleep i heard doing splits is better.
and 5-6 weeks 75 mg proviron With RU
Do RU 1ml daily
after proviron cycle ends
Continue 2-3 weeks of RU post cycle
Always keep ai in hand if E2 levels increase: Aromasin for managing estrogen. Metformin 500mg everyday for keeping the blood sugar stable.

The reason why i added proviron is because since im still in puberty im thinking proviron can make my voice deeper. My main goal is my voice and not muscles while on proviron.

Have blood glucose machine to keep blood sugar in check every morning


Things to keep in check every month and before hgh

 igf-1
Total testestrone
Free testestrone
Estradiol
Thyroid function: TSH, free T4, free T3.
Cholesterol and triglyceride
Liver function: ALT/AST

I didnt add test because i also dont wanna keep checking on that and other reasons are:
-I dont wanna shrink my balls and get HCG for that
-i dont wanna spend my time doing pct too after
-Gyno risk

Also i dont find it that much important i think hgh alone would be enough and with test im scared that i could look like an uncanny ogre like.

Anyways yeah i changed it now becauze the other stack was shit and so low.

Please review this one and give advice to this. Lemme know if i missed anything or i got anything wrong.

 

[ThePrinceOfPersia]

proviron will cause your balls to shrink up any way, make sure you have at least some sort of oral PCT for proviron since you dont want to do hcg

 

[Azie555]

proviron will cause your balls to shrink up any way, make sure you have at least some sort of oral PCT for proviron since you dont want to do hcg

Proviron does not aromatize estrogen.
It has minimal to no suppression on LH/FSH
It may actually increase natural testosterone by binding SHBG freeing more testosterone.

Since i wont be using proviron for long term and high dosages there is a paper that says low dosages like 100-150 mg does not suppress Hpta

250 men with mild-to-moderate oligospermia were treated with mesterolone (100–150 mg daily)

LH, FSH, and testosterone remained stable or improved, especially in the 70% with moderate oligospermia. No suppression observed .

Here is the paper:

The effect of mesterolone on sperm count, on serum follicle stimulating hormone, luteinizing hormone, plasma testosterone and outcome in idiopathic oligospermic men - PubMed

Two hundred fifty subfertile men with idiopathic oligospermia (count less than 20 million/ml) were treated with mesterolone (100-150 mg/day) for 12 months. Seminal analysis were assayed 3 times and serum follicle stimulating hormone (FSH) luteinizing hormone (LH) and plasma testosterone were...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[ThePrinceOfPersia]

Proviron does not aromatize estrogen.
It has minimal to no suppression on LH/FSH
It may actually increase natural testosterone by binding SHBG freeing more testosterone.

Since i wont be using proviron for long term and high dosages there is a paper that says low dosages like 100-150 mg does not suppress Hpta

250 men with mild-to-moderate oligospermia were treated with mesterolone (100–150 mg daily)

LH, FSH, and testosterone remained stable or improved, especially in the 70% with moderate oligospermia. No suppression observed .

Here is the paper:

The effect of mesterolone on sperm count, on serum follicle stimulating hormone, luteinizing hormone, plasma testosterone and outcome in idiopathic oligospermic men - PubMed

Two hundred fifty subfertile men with idiopathic oligospermia (count less than 20 million/ml) were treated with mesterolone (100-150 mg/day) for 12 months. Seminal analysis were assayed 3 times and serum follicle stimulating hormone (FSH) luteinizing hormone (LH) and plasma testosterone were...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

sorry about that, i read a little bit of that and searched some stuff up. i just thought that any sarm will cause test issues. well its a good stack man good job i hope it gets you far

 

[Azie555]

sorry about that, i read a little bit of that and searched some stuff up. i just thought that any sarm will cause test issues. well its a good stack man good job i hope it gets you far

all good thx

 

[ThePrinceOfPersia]

all good thx

are you not worried about hair loss risk on proviron?

 

[Azie555]

Are you not worried about hair loss risk on proviron?

I stated that I would use RU.

 

[Azie555]

@Copercel @Evgeniy291 @slaters @aids @Mainlander @Jonasㅤㅤ @OneCopDayKepRopAway

 

[ThePrinceOfPersia]

I stated that I would use RU.

No i did notice that but is RU that strong to save it? Im on dut oral minox and RU rn while doing rad 140 but im seeing stuff about proviron causing lots of hair issues

 

[Azie555]

No i did notice that but is RU that strong to save it? Im on dut oral minox and RU rn while doing rad 140 but im seeing stuff about proviron causing lots of hair issues

people use RU while on 400-500mg test i doubt 75 mg of proviron would be too strong against RU.

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

I would recommend injecting test and hcg.

But proviron is honestly not a bad option if you really dont wanna commit and youre still in puberty

 

[Azie555]

I would recommend injecting test and hcg.

But proviron is honestly not a bad option if you really dont wanna commit and youre still in puberty

might do test and hcg after my hgh cycle is over and i dont find myself enough.

 

[slaters]

Go longer than 20 weeks with the hgh

 

[Azie555]

Go longer than 20 weeks with the hgh

why?

 

[slaters]

why?

So you can be 6’3

 

[Azie555]

So you can be 6’3

i think my height is good im the one on the left. But there is a time my friend once mogged me by height

 

[Azie555]

@SeiGun Speak nigga

 

[SeiGun]

@SeiGun Speak nigga

bro you 16 u talking about blasting hgh stack without professional opinion, i dont know man

 

[ThePrinceOfPersia]

people use RU while on 400-500mg test i doubt 75 mg of proviron would be too strong against RU.

lucky man bro, im half persian so i have crazy dht sensitivity

 

[Azie555]

bro you 16 u talking about blasting hgh stack without professional opinion, i dont know man

Lets look at Hgh side affects

Acromegaly (bone thickening in face, hands, jaw)
- ill only be dosing 5 iu so this wont happen it only happens in high doses like 10+iu


Insulin / Blood SugarInsulin resistance / pre-diabetes
-Will be using Metformin


Fluid RetentionBloating, moon face, swollen hands/feet
-Eplerenone can help Or Hctz once a week



Organ GrowthHeart, liver, intestines SevereLong-term abuse may cause organ enlargement @Copercel i will need you to explain this also could you tell if i explained right or wrong? The risks


GynecomastiaPuffy nipples / breast tissue Mild–ModerateDue to HGH raising E2 in
-This likely wont happen because im already lean and low bf also Ill have AI for safe


Cancer riskTumor growth (if predisposed) SevereIGF-1 may feed preexisting tumors
-Okay this happens in really high dosages too and cancer risk from 5iu gotta be 1%
also everything basically has a cancer risk. Sun can give cancer too like this happens if only i have cancer in my genes and i can detect this blood test.

@Copercel Did i missed anything or said anything wrong explaining in here?

 

[Copercel]

Fluid RetentionBloating, moon face, swollen hands/feet
-Eplerenone can help Or Hctz once a week

just hctz is enough.

GynecomastiaPuffy nipples / breast tissue Mild–ModerateDue to HGH raising E2 in
-This likely wont happen because im already lean and low bf also Ill have AI for safe

HGH raises aromatase activity, especially if you stacked it with testosterone (which u do) or if you already have E2-prone genetics, being lean doesn’t help you with gyno.
So yeah have an AI on hand.

Cancer riskTumor growth (if predisposed) SevereIGF-1 may feed preexisting tumors
-Okay this happens in really high dosages too and cancer risk from 5iu gotta be 1%
also everything basically has a cancer risk. Sun can give cancer too like this happens if only i have cancer in my genes and i can detect this blood test.

HGH can only accelerate cancer growth if you already have it. So you will be fine.

 

[Mainlander]

I dont think HGH at that age with that dosage will do anything besides 1cm above predicted height

 

[Copercel]

1-20 weeks 5 iu everyday 2 iu in the monring and 3 iu before sleep i heard doing splits is better.
and 5-6 weeks 75 mg proviron With RU
Do RU 1ml daily
after proviron cycle ends
Continue 2-3 weeks of RU post cycle
Always keep ai in hand if E2 levels increase: Aromasin for managing estrogen. Metformin 500mg everyday for keeping the blood sugar stable.

The reason why i added proviron is because since im still in puberty im thinking proviron can make my voice deeper. My main goal is my voice and not muscles while on proviron.

Why are you talking about RU like it’s something you cycle.
And proviron is fucking dogshit, good luck with getting all the androgenic effects without any anabolic effects and raping your hair and skin.

Voice maxing is comical.

I didnt add test because i also dont wanna keep checking on that and other reasons are:
-I dont wanna shrink my balls and get HCG for that
-i dont wanna spend my time doing pct too after
-Gyno risk

Also i dont find it that much important i think hgh alone would be enough and with test im scared that i could look like an uncanny ogre like.

running a cycle without test as your foundation is retard.
All the things you said would happen to you on test are just fearmongering and they just won’t happen.

And how tf can test make you become an ogre?

 

[Azie555]

And proviron is fucking dogshit, good luck with getting all the androgenic effects without any anabolic effects and raping your hair and skin.

Voice maxing is comical.

Wdym i already said im not for provirons anabolic effects and stated its for voicemaxxing

wdym by voicemaxxing is comical?

running a cycle without test as your foundation is retard.

explain Why hgh would not be affective and i cant do test after my cycle?

All the things you said would happen to you on test are just fearmongering and they just won’t happen.

And how tf can test make you become an ogre?

How? Why wouldn i not need hcg and pct?

 

[keife]

Looks good

 

[Copercel]

Wdym i already said im not for provirons anabolic effects and stated its for voicemaxxing

wdym by voicemaxxing is comical?

Puberty will do its thing, you don’t have to worry about your voice. You wanna have that @androgenic voice?

explain Why hgh would not be affective and i cant do test after my cycle?

I never said hgh is not effective, but running a cycle with hgh and without test being the foundation is retard.

Test is the hormone your body runs on. Everything else is an add-on.
you don’t have testosterone as your foundation, you’re going to crash your system, lose libido, feel like shit, and potentially ruin your gains.

Testosterone maintains baseline androgenic function. Without testosterone, your body has no hormonal backbone to handle even daily life, let alone grow muscle.
All AAS suppress your natural test, once your natural test drops, and you’re not pinning exogenous test, your body becomes very dull.

How? Why wouldn i not need hcg and pct?

because your natural FSH (your sperm) and your LH (test) will come back to work after 1-3 months, you don’t need pct, it’s a waste of money and can be a looksmin for some.

 

[Azie555]

because your natural FSH (your sperm) and your LH (test) will come back to work after 1-3 months, you don’t need pct, it’s a waste of money and can be a looksmin for some.

How will my 3 months be like? Will i go through hell those times?

 

[Copercel]

How will my 3 months be like? Will i go through hell those times?

No. You won’t feel the difference that much.

 

[Azie555]

I never said hgh is not effective, but running a cycle with hgh and without test being the foundation is retard.

Test is the hormone your body runs on. Everything else is an add-on.
you don’t have testosterone as your foundation, you’re going to crash your system, lose libido, feel like shit, and potentially ruin your gains.

Testosterone maintains baseline androgenic function. Without testosterone, your body has no hormonal backbone to handle even daily life, let alone grow muscle.
All AAS suppress your natural test, once your natural test drops, and you’re not pinning exogenous test, your body becomes very dull.

So running hgh alone without test will crash my system? I mean wouldnt i still have natural test even if i dont injrct myself test while on hgh?

 

[Azie555]

No. You won’t feel the difference that much.

Also how is your cycle how long has it been

 

[Copercel]

Also how is your cycle how long has it been

Approximately 2 months.

 

[Copercel]

So running hgh alone without test will crash my system? I mean wouldnt i still have natural test even if i dont injrct myself test while on hgh?

No, HGH won’t crush anything, that’s now what i said. But running test with it is just way better than only HGH.

 

[Azie555]

Approximately 2 months.

When will you finish it?

 

[Copercel]

When will you finish it?

Soon

 

[Azie555]

because your natural FSH (your sperm) and your LH (test) will come back to work after 1-3 months, you don’t need pct, it’s a waste of money and can be a looksmin for some.

I was reading this paper and here it uses the same dosages. It says it can take several months.
"Stacking HGH with testosterone will also have a transient effect on testosterone levels, initially increasing during a cycle but then decreasing post-cycle. Consequently, low testosterone symptoms can persist for several months unless certain PCT medications are taken to restore the HPTA."

Paper: https://insidebodybuilding.com/hgh/

 

[Azie555]

I was reading this paper and here it uses the same dosages. It says it can take several months.
"Stacking HGH with testosterone will also have a transient effect on testosterone levels, initially increasing during a cycle but then decreasing post-cycle. Consequently, low testosterone symptoms can persist for several months unless certain PCT medications are taken to restore the HPTA."

Paper: https://insidebodybuilding.com/hgh/

@Copercel why not answer?

 

[Copercel]

@Copercel why not answer?

Could you send me this in dm and I will answer you later? I just cant now

 

[Copercel]

I was reading this paper and here it uses the same dosages. It says it can take several months.
"Stacking HGH with testosterone will also have a transient effect on testosterone levels, initially increasing during a cycle but then decreasing post-cycle. Consequently, low testosterone symptoms can persist for several months unless certain PCT medications are taken to restore the HPTA."

Paper: https://insidebodybuilding.com/hgh/

That link you sent isn’t a scientific study, it’s just a blog post. authors aren’t listed, no citations to clinical data, and it’s not peer-reviewed so it’s not something you can rely on for understanding HPTA recovery unfortunately.


This study for example is much more reliable and shows that suppressed LH and FSH will come back to normal after 1-3 months:

https://academic.oup.com/humrep/article/36/4/880/6129954?login=false

Keep in mind that while you’re suppressed it won’t feel like nightmare. You don’t blast it so recovery can start by week 4 after the cycle already.