My official verdict regarding @Volksstaffel’s eligibility in FUOTY 2025.

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FUOTY 2025 ELIGIBILITY DETERMINATION

Case Report: @Volksstaffel

Date: December 27, 2025
Adjudicator: @enchanted_elixir
Decision: ELIGIBLE

Forum Rules

FUOTY Rules

EXECUTIVE SUMMARY

@Volksstaffel attempted to privately identify @MyDreamIsToBe183CM using reverse image search services. The investigation was unsuccessful and nothing was posted publicly. After initial ban and unban by moderators, Master (forum owner) imposed a 2-day temporary ban with 20% warning level.

Ruling: @Volksstaffel remains eligible for FUOTY 2025 participation.

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KEY FACTS

The Incident:

- @Volksstaffel obtained a photo believed to be @MyDreamIsToBe183CM
- Paid for reverse image search services
- Found no identifying information
- Nothing posted publicly
- Investigation remained private until reported

The Punishment:

- Initial ban by a moderator.
- Unbanned by moderators
- Re-banned by Master: 2 days, 20% warning level

Evidence Available:

- Both parties (@Volksstaffel, @MyDreamIsToBe183CM) admitted to incident
- Staff reviewed evidence and confirmed validity
- Multiple administrators involved in decision
- Tournament organizer was barred and does NOT have access to complete evidence

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APPLICABLE RULES

Forum Rule: “Dox or threaten to dox”
Established Precedent: Explicit doxxing violations = permanent bans

Tournament Rule: “No banned users unless it’s a self-ban or temporary ban spanning no more than 1 week, within reason”

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ANALYSIS

1. Was This an Explicit “Dox or Threaten to Dox” Violation?

Answer: No, based on the punishment assigned.

Key Logic:

```
IF explicit doxxing → permanent ban (established precedent)
@Volksstaffel → 20% warning, 2-day ban
THEREFORE → NOT classified as explicit doxxing
```

Why the punishment matters:

- Master (forum owner) had enough evidence to make an informed decision.
- Master has authority to classify violations
- Master chose 20% warning (low tier) not permanent ban
- This choice necessarily indicates the conduct was NOT treated as explicit doxxing

What actually occurred:

- ❌ No successful doxxing (no information found)
- ❌ No public posting (investigation private)
- ❌ No threats made (no evidence of this)
- ✓ Inappropriate investigation attempt of @MyDreamIsToBe183CM (hence the warning)

2. Does the Ban Fall “Within Reason”?

Answer: Yes.

Objective Factors:

- Duration: 2 days (very short, well under 1 week)
- Severity: 20% warning (low disciplinary tier)
- Actual harm: Minimal (nothing public, nothing found)
- Forum determination: Master deemed this proportionate.

“Within Reason” Analysis:
The phrase grants discretion to evaluate whether a ban represents a minor violation (eligible) vs. serious violation (ineligible).

Supporting factors:
  • Forum authority determined appropriate: Master saw complete evidence and chose this punishment level.
  • Proportionate to harm: No public disclosure, no information obtained
  • Consistent with rule purpose: Exception designed for minor violations; forum classified this as minor-moderate (20% warning)
  • No stated exclusions: Rule doesn’t exclude doxxing-related offenses from “within reason”
  • Equal treatment: Other 2-day bans for similar severity levels would qualify

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CRITICAL REASONING

The Dispositive Factor: Deference to Forum Authority

The Problem:
Tournament organizer lacks complete information about the incident.

The Solution:
Defer to the authority who HAD complete information—Master and admin.

Why this matters:

1. Master reviewed all evidence (tournament organizer did not)
1. Master has expertise in forum rules and appropriate classifications
1. Master made a determination: 20% warning, not permanent ban
1. This determination is reliable evidence of how serious the violation was.

The Logic:

- If tournament organizer had complete info → could independently assess
- Tournament organizer lacks complete info → should trust Master’s assessment
- Master’s punishment level = 20% warning → signals minor-moderate violation
- Minor-moderate violation = qualifies for “within reason” exception
- The rule was a forum rule violation, not a tournament rule violation, thus the decision ultimately must come from the staff, not the host.

Why Not Disqualify?

Disqualification would require:

1. Overruling the staff’s determination (I am not staff or have their expertise)
1. Applying stricter standards on the interpretation of forum rules than the staff itself, the host isn’t staff so that would be inappropriate.
1. Adding unstated exceptions (rule doesn’t exclude doxxing-related offenses)
1. Making harsh call with incomplete information (choosing exclusion over inclusion)

None of these approaches are justified.

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PRECEDENT ESTABLISHED

Forum Punishment = Classification Evidence

When forum authority assigns punishment, that punishment level indicates how the violation was classified:

- Permanent ban = maximum severity (explicit rule violations)
- High warning % = serious violation
- Low warning % (20-40%) = minor-moderate violation

Tournament organizers should respect these classifications.

“Within Reason” Means:

Includes:

- Short temporary bans (≤1 week)
- Low-tier warning levels (10-30%)
- Bans where forum classified as minor-moderate
- Situations where actual harm was minimal

Excludes:

- Permanent bans
- Bans >1 week
- Bans where forum uses maximum severity classification

Deference Principle

When lacking complete information, tournament organizers should defer to forum authority’s determinations rather than second-guess or override them.

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RESPONSE TO CONCERNS

Concern: “But he ATTEMPTED to doxx someone—that’s serious!”

Response:

- Forum authority agrees it was inappropriate (hence the warning)
- But forum authority determined it wasn’t explicit doxxing-level serious (hence 20% warning, not permanent ban)
- Tournament should respect Master’s severity assessment

Concern: “What about community safety?”

Response:

- Forum authority already assessed safety risk
- Master determined 20% warning sufficient
- No evidence of ongoing risk (investigation unsuccessful, nothing posted)
- If Master believed serious safety risk → would have banned permanently

Concern: “Isn’t this being too lenient?”

Response:

- Not about leniency—about applying rules as written
- Tournament rule explicitly allows “temporary bans within reason”
- Forum’s owner treated this as minor-moderate violation.
- Tournament shouldn’t impose stricter standards than the staff itself, unless it deals within the realm of exclusively FUOTY rules, not forum rules. This incident was a forum rule violation, deference to staff is acceptable.

-----

FINAL DETERMINATION

@Volksstaffel IS ELIGIBLE for FUOTY 2025.

Primary Basis:
2-day temporary ban with 20% warning level falls within tournament exception for “temporary bans spanning no more than 1 week, within reason.”

Three-Part Test:

1. ✅ Temporary ban (not permanent)
1. ✅ Duration ≤ 1 week (2 days < 7 days)
1. ✅ Within reason (20% warning, minimal harm, forum authority determination)

Core Reasoning:
Forum authority (Master) with complete information determined this conduct warranted 20% warning—not permanent doxxing ban. This indicates a low-level offense. This classification should be respected. The tournament rule allows temporary bans “within reason,” and this objectively qualifies.
 
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Referee work going crazy

john anderson dance GIF
 
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Good thread
 
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It could have went the other way, and it was going to go there, but I am not staff and I have to respect and assume the staff is correct.

I was actually going to ban him until I realized that I was too limited in evidence and those with more evidence unbanned him then gave him a 20% warning and a 2 day temporary ban.

Me not knowing what they know and being blocked from accessing it, I thought it would be best to defer to their decision (staff) and have my verdict reflect theirs.

I didn’t have all the evidence and I was denied access to additional necessary evidence I needed, thus using the verdicts of people who dealt with the case is the best option.
 
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FUOTY 2025 ELIGIBILITY DETERMINATION

Case Report: @Volksstaffel

Date: December 27, 2025
Adjudicator: @enchanted_elixir
Decision: ELIGIBLE

Forum Rules

FUOTY Rules

EXECUTIVE SUMMARY

@Volksstaffel attempted to privately identify @MyDreamIsToBe183CM using reverse image search services. The investigation was unsuccessful and nothing was posted publicly. After initial ban and unban by moderators, Master (forum owner) imposed a 2-day temporary ban with 20% warning level.

Ruling: @Volksstaffel remains eligible for FUOTY 2025 participation.

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KEY FACTS

The Incident:

- @Volksstaffel obtained a photo believed to be @MyDreamIsToBe183CM
- Paid for reverse image search services
- Found no identifying information
- Nothing posted publicly
- Investigation remained private until reported

The Punishment:

- Initial ban by a moderator.
- Unbanned by moderators
- Re-banned by Master: **2 days, 20% warning level**

Evidence Available:

- Both parties (@Volksstaffel, @MyDreamIsToBe183CM) admitted to incident
- Staff reviewed evidence and confirmed validity
- Multiple administrators involved in decision
- Tournament organizer was barred and does NOT have access to complete evidence

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APPLICABLE RULES

Forum Rule: “Dox or threaten to dox”
Established Precedent: Explicit doxxing violations = permanent bans

Tournament Rule: “No banned users unless it’s a self-ban or temporary ban spanning no more than 1 week, within reason”

-----

ANALYSIS

1. Was This an Explicit “Dox or Threaten to Dox” Violation?

Answer: No, based on the punishment assigned.

Key Logic:

```
IF explicit doxxing → permanent ban (established precedent)
@Volksstaffel → 20% warning, 2-day ban
THEREFORE → NOT classified as explicit doxxing
```

Why the punishment matters:

- Master (forum owner) saw ALL evidence
- Master has authority to classify violations
- Master chose 20% warning (low tier) not permanent ban
- This choice necessarily indicates the conduct was NOT treated as explicit doxxing

What actually occurred:

- ❌ No successful doxxing (no information found)
- ❌ No public posting (investigation private)
- ❌ No threats made (no evidence of this)
- ✓ Inappropriate investigation attempt of @MyDreamIsToBe183CM (hence the warning)

2. Does the Ban Fall “Within Reason”?

Answer: Yes.

Objective Factors:

- Duration: 2 days (very short, well under 1 week)
- Severity: 20% warning (low disciplinary tier)
- Actual harm: Minimal (nothing public, nothing found)
- Forum determination: Master deemed this proportionate.

“Within Reason” Analysis:
The phrase grants discretion to evaluate whether a ban represents a minor violation (eligible) vs. serious violation (ineligible).

Supporting factors:
  • Forum authority determined appropriate: Master saw complete evidence and chose this punishment level.
  • Proportionate to harm: No public disclosure, no information obtained
  • Consistent with rule purpose: Exception designed for minor violations; forum classified this as minor-moderate (20% warning)
  • No stated exclusions: Rule doesn’t exclude doxxing-related offenses from “within reason”
  • Equal treatment: Other 2-day bans for similar severity levels would qualify

-----

CRITICAL REASONING

The Dispositive Factor: Deference to Forum Authority

The Problem:
Tournament organizer lacks complete information about the incident.

The Solution:
Defer to the authority who HAD complete information—Master and admin.

Why this matters:

1. Master reviewed all evidence (tournament organizer did not)
1. Master has expertise in forum rules and appropriate classifications
1. Master made a determination: 20% warning, not permanent ban
1. This determination is reliable evidence of how serious the violation was.

The Logic:

- If tournament organizer had complete info → could independently assess
- Tournament organizer lacks complete info → should trust Master’s assessment
- Master’s punishment level = 20% warning → signals minor-moderate violation
- Minor-moderate violation = qualifies for “within reason” exception
- The rule was a forum rule violation, not a tournament rule violation, thus deference to staff is acceptable and if applicable, necessary.

Why Not Disqualify?

Disqualification would require:

1. Overruling the staff’s determination (I am not staff or have their expertise)
1. Applying stricter standards on the interpretation of forum rules than the staff itself, the host isn’t staff so that would be inappropriate (forum allows 20% warnings)
1. Adding unstated exceptions (rule doesn’t exclude doxxing-related offenses)
1. Making harsh call with incomplete information (choosing exclusion over inclusion)

None of these approaches is justified.

-----

PRECEDENT ESTABLISHED

Forum Punishment = Classification Evidence

When forum authority assigns punishment, that punishment level indicates how the violation was classified:

- Permanent ban = maximum severity (explicit rule violations)
- High warning % = serious violation
- Low warning % (20-40%) = minor-moderate violation

Tournament organizers should respect these classifications.

“Within Reason” Means:

Includes:

- Short temporary bans (≤1 week)
- Low-tier warning levels (10-30%)
- Bans where forum classified as minor-moderate
- Situations where actual harm was minimal

Excludes:

- Permanent bans
- Bans >1 week
- Bans where forum uses maximum severity classification

Deference Principle

When lacking complete information, tournament organizers should defer to forum authority’s determinations rather than second-guess or override them.

-----

RESPONSE TO CONCERNS

Concern: “But he ATTEMPTED to doxx someone—that’s serious!”

Response:

- Forum authority agrees it was inappropriate (hence the warning)
- But forum authority determined it wasn’t explicit doxxing-level serious (hence 20% warning, not permanent ban)
- Tournament should respect Master’s severity assessment

Concern: “What about community safety?”

Response:

- Forum authority already assessed safety risk
- Master determined 20% warning sufficient
- No evidence of ongoing risk (investigation unsuccessful, nothing posted)
- If Master believed serious safety risk → would have banned permanently

Concern: “Isn’t this being too lenient?”

Response:

- Not about leniency—about applying rules as written
- Tournament rule explicitly allows “temporary bans within reason”
- Forum’s owner treated this as minor-moderate violation.
- Tournament shouldn’t impose stricter standards than the staff itself, unless it deals within the realm of exclusively FUOTY rules, not forum rules. This incident was a forum rule violation, deference to staff is acceptable.

-----

FINAL DETERMINATION

@Volksstaffel IS ELIGIBLE for FUOTY 2025.

Primary Basis:
2-day temporary ban with 20% warning level falls within tournament exception for “temporary bans spanning no more than 1 week, within reason.”

Three-Part Test:

1. ✅ Temporary ban (not permanent)
1. ✅ Duration ≤ 1 week (2 days < 7 days)
1. ✅ Within reason (20% warning, minimal harm, forum authority determination)

Core Reasoning:
Forum authority (Master) with complete information determined this conduct warranted 20% warning—not permanent doxxing ban. This classification should be respected. The tournament rule allows temporary bans “within reason,” and this objectively qualifies.
i actually read :forcedsmile: (like skimmed through the interesting parts :lul:)
 
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Regardless of my verdict, it would be controversial so I had to do what I thought was right.
 
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DNR sorry
 
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What a nice way to spend your saturday morning
 
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Good shit ench
 
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nothing ever happens
 
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Spending all this time on this case fried my brain. I need to get some sleep soon.
 
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FUOTY 2025 ELIGIBILITY DETERMINATION

Case Report: @Volksstaffel

Date: December 27, 2025
Adjudicator: @enchanted_elixir
Decision: ELIGIBLE

Forum Rules

FUOTY Rules

EXECUTIVE SUMMARY

@Volksstaffel attempted to privately identify @MyDreamIsToBe183CM using reverse image search services. The investigation was unsuccessful and nothing was posted publicly. After initial ban and unban by moderators, Master (forum owner) imposed a 2-day temporary ban with 20% warning level.

Ruling: @Volksstaffel remains eligible for FUOTY 2025 participation.

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KEY FACTS

The Incident:

- @Volksstaffel obtained a photo believed to be @MyDreamIsToBe183CM
- Paid for reverse image search services
- Found no identifying information
- Nothing posted publicly
- Investigation remained private until reported

The Punishment:

- Initial ban by a moderator.
- Unbanned by moderators
- Re-banned by Master: 2 days, 20% warning level

Evidence Available:

- Both parties (@Volksstaffel, @MyDreamIsToBe183CM) admitted to incident
- Staff reviewed evidence and confirmed validity
- Multiple administrators involved in decision
- Tournament organizer was barred and does NOT have access to complete evidence

-----

APPLICABLE RULES

Forum Rule: “Dox or threaten to dox”
Established Precedent: Explicit doxxing violations = permanent bans

Tournament Rule: “No banned users unless it’s a self-ban or temporary ban spanning no more than 1 week, within reason”

-----

ANALYSIS

1. Was This an Explicit “Dox or Threaten to Dox” Violation?

Answer: No, based on the punishment assigned.

Key Logic:

```
IF explicit doxxing → permanent ban (established precedent)
@Volksstaffel → 20% warning, 2-day ban
THEREFORE → NOT classified as explicit doxxing
```

Why the punishment matters:

- Master (forum owner) saw ALL evidence
- Master has authority to classify violations
- Master chose 20% warning (low tier) not permanent ban
- This choice necessarily indicates the conduct was NOT treated as explicit doxxing

What actually occurred:

- ❌ No successful doxxing (no information found)
- ❌ No public posting (investigation private)
- ❌ No threats made (no evidence of this)
- ✓ Inappropriate investigation attempt of @MyDreamIsToBe183CM (hence the warning)

2. Does the Ban Fall “Within Reason”?

Answer: Yes.

Objective Factors:

- Duration: 2 days (very short, well under 1 week)
- Severity: 20% warning (low disciplinary tier)
- Actual harm: Minimal (nothing public, nothing found)
- Forum determination: Master deemed this proportionate.

“Within Reason” Analysis:
The phrase grants discretion to evaluate whether a ban represents a minor violation (eligible) vs. serious violation (ineligible).

Supporting factors:
  • Forum authority determined appropriate: Master saw complete evidence and chose this punishment level.
  • Proportionate to harm: No public disclosure, no information obtained
  • Consistent with rule purpose: Exception designed for minor violations; forum classified this as minor-moderate (20% warning)
  • No stated exclusions: Rule doesn’t exclude doxxing-related offenses from “within reason”
  • Equal treatment: Other 2-day bans for similar severity levels would qualify

-----

CRITICAL REASONING

The Dispositive Factor: Deference to Forum Authority

The Problem:
Tournament organizer lacks complete information about the incident.

The Solution:
Defer to the authority who HAD complete information—Master and admin.

Why this matters:

1. Master reviewed all evidence (tournament organizer did not)
1. Master has expertise in forum rules and appropriate classifications
1. Master made a determination: 20% warning, not permanent ban
1. This determination is reliable evidence of how serious the violation was.

The Logic:

- If tournament organizer had complete info → could independently assess
- Tournament organizer lacks complete info → should trust Master’s assessment
- Master’s punishment level = 20% warning → signals minor-moderate violation
- Minor-moderate violation = qualifies for “within reason” exception
- The rule was a forum rule violation, not a tournament rule violation, thus deference to staff is acceptable and if applicable, necessary.

Why Not Disqualify?

Disqualification would require:

1. Overruling the staff’s determination (I am not staff or have their expertise)
1. Applying stricter standards on the interpretation of forum rules than the staff itself, the host isn’t staff so that would be inappropriate (forum allows 20% warnings)
1. Adding unstated exceptions (rule doesn’t exclude doxxing-related offenses)
1. Making harsh call with incomplete information (choosing exclusion over inclusion)

None of these approaches is justified.

-----

PRECEDENT ESTABLISHED

Forum Punishment = Classification Evidence

When forum authority assigns punishment, that punishment level indicates how the violation was classified:

- Permanent ban = maximum severity (explicit rule violations)
- High warning % = serious violation
- Low warning % (20-40%) = minor-moderate violation

Tournament organizers should respect these classifications.

“Within Reason” Means:

Includes:

- Short temporary bans (≤1 week)
- Low-tier warning levels (10-30%)
- Bans where forum classified as minor-moderate
- Situations where actual harm was minimal

Excludes:

- Permanent bans
- Bans >1 week
- Bans where forum uses maximum severity classification

Deference Principle

When lacking complete information, tournament organizers should defer to forum authority’s determinations rather than second-guess or override them.

-----

RESPONSE TO CONCERNS

Concern: “But he ATTEMPTED to doxx someone—that’s serious!”

Response:

- Forum authority agrees it was inappropriate (hence the warning)
- But forum authority determined it wasn’t explicit doxxing-level serious (hence 20% warning, not permanent ban)
- Tournament should respect Master’s severity assessment

Concern: “What about community safety?”

Response:

- Forum authority already assessed safety risk
- Master determined 20% warning sufficient
- No evidence of ongoing risk (investigation unsuccessful, nothing posted)
- If Master believed serious safety risk → would have banned permanently

Concern: “Isn’t this being too lenient?”

Response:

- Not about leniency—about applying rules as written
- Tournament rule explicitly allows “temporary bans within reason”
- Forum’s owner treated this as minor-moderate violation.
- Tournament shouldn’t impose stricter standards than the staff itself, unless it deals within the realm of exclusively FUOTY rules, not forum rules. This incident was a forum rule violation, deference to staff is acceptable.

-----

FINAL DETERMINATION

@Volksstaffel IS ELIGIBLE for FUOTY 2025.

Primary Basis:
2-day temporary ban with 20% warning level falls within tournament exception for “temporary bans spanning no more than 1 week, within reason.”

Three-Part Test:

1. ✅ Temporary ban (not permanent)
1. ✅ Duration ≤ 1 week (2 days < 7 days)
1. ✅ Within reason (20% warning, minimal harm, forum authority determination)

Core Reasoning:
Forum authority (Master) with complete information determined this conduct warranted 20% warning—not permanent doxxing ban. This classification should be respected. The tournament rule allows temporary bans “within reason,” and this objectively qualifies.
Did you use AI to summarize this? Reads very much like it. Anyways good ruling tbh.
 
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Did you use AI to summarize this? Reads very much like it. Anyways good ruling tbh.
Yes, or else I’d be here for much longer lol
 
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enchanted_elixir
 
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honestly respect to you, for taking this so proffesionally. Pretty valid punishments too imo.:peepoChill:
 
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But @Volksstaffel will have to do the QFs banned @lblamemyse1f
 
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Dog Talking GIF


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secret smell GIF
 
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@Notcel
 
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may I have my 2025 fuoty ro16 participation trophy pls
 
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DNR
 
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DNR OF THE CENTURY
IMG 5430
 
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FUOTY 2025 ELIGIBILITY DETERMINATION

Case Report: @Volksstaffel

Date: December 27, 2025
Adjudicator: @enchanted_elixir
Decision: ELIGIBLE

Forum Rules

FUOTY Rules

EXECUTIVE SUMMARY

@Volksstaffel attempted to privately identify @MyDreamIsToBe183CM using reverse image search services. The investigation was unsuccessful and nothing was posted publicly. After initial ban and unban by moderators, Master (forum owner) imposed a 2-day temporary ban with 20% warning level.

Ruling: @Volksstaffel remains eligible for FUOTY 2025 participation.

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KEY FACTS

The Incident:

- @Volksstaffel obtained a photo believed to be @MyDreamIsToBe183CM
- Paid for reverse image search services
- Found no identifying information
- Nothing posted publicly
- Investigation remained private until reported

The Punishment:

- Initial ban by a moderator.
- Unbanned by moderators
- Re-banned by Master: 2 days, 20% warning level

Evidence Available:

- Both parties (@Volksstaffel, @MyDreamIsToBe183CM) admitted to incident
- Staff reviewed evidence and confirmed validity
- Multiple administrators involved in decision
- Tournament organizer was barred and does NOT have access to complete evidence

-----

APPLICABLE RULES

Forum Rule: “Dox or threaten to dox”
Established Precedent: Explicit doxxing violations = permanent bans

Tournament Rule: “No banned users unless it’s a self-ban or temporary ban spanning no more than 1 week, within reason”

-----

ANALYSIS

1. Was This an Explicit “Dox or Threaten to Dox” Violation?

Answer: No, based on the punishment assigned.

Key Logic:

```
IF explicit doxxing → permanent ban (established precedent)
@Volksstaffel → 20% warning, 2-day ban
THEREFORE → NOT classified as explicit doxxing
```

Why the punishment matters:

- Master (forum owner) had enough evidence to make an informed decision.
- Master has authority to classify violations
- Master chose 20% warning (low tier) not permanent ban
- This choice necessarily indicates the conduct was NOT treated as explicit doxxing

What actually occurred:

- ❌ No successful doxxing (no information found)
- ❌ No public posting (investigation private)
- ❌ No threats made (no evidence of this)
- ✓ Inappropriate investigation attempt of @MyDreamIsToBe183CM (hence the warning)

2. Does the Ban Fall “Within Reason”?

Answer: Yes.

Objective Factors:

- Duration: 2 days (very short, well under 1 week)
- Severity: 20% warning (low disciplinary tier)
- Actual harm: Minimal (nothing public, nothing found)
- Forum determination: Master deemed this proportionate.

“Within Reason” Analysis:
The phrase grants discretion to evaluate whether a ban represents a minor violation (eligible) vs. serious violation (ineligible).

Supporting factors:
  • Forum authority determined appropriate: Master saw complete evidence and chose this punishment level.
  • Proportionate to harm: No public disclosure, no information obtained
  • Consistent with rule purpose: Exception designed for minor violations; forum classified this as minor-moderate (20% warning)
  • No stated exclusions: Rule doesn’t exclude doxxing-related offenses from “within reason”
  • Equal treatment: Other 2-day bans for similar severity levels would qualify

-----

CRITICAL REASONING

The Dispositive Factor: Deference to Forum Authority

The Problem:
Tournament organizer lacks complete information about the incident.

The Solution:
Defer to the authority who HAD complete information—Master and admin.

Why this matters:

1. Master reviewed all evidence (tournament organizer did not)
1. Master has expertise in forum rules and appropriate classifications
1. Master made a determination: 20% warning, not permanent ban
1. This determination is reliable evidence of how serious the violation was.

The Logic:

- If tournament organizer had complete info → could independently assess
- Tournament organizer lacks complete info → should trust Master’s assessment
- Master’s punishment level = 20% warning → signals minor-moderate violation
- Minor-moderate violation = qualifies for “within reason” exception
- The rule was a forum rule violation, not a tournament rule violation, thus the decision ultimately must come from the staff, not the host.

Why Not Disqualify?

Disqualification would require:

1. Overruling the staff’s determination (I am not staff or have their expertise)
1. Applying stricter standards on the interpretation of forum rules than the staff itself, the host isn’t staff so that would be inappropriate.
1. Adding unstated exceptions (rule doesn’t exclude doxxing-related offenses)
1. Making harsh call with incomplete information (choosing exclusion over inclusion)

None of these approaches are justified.

-----

PRECEDENT ESTABLISHED

Forum Punishment = Classification Evidence

When forum authority assigns punishment, that punishment level indicates how the violation was classified:

- Permanent ban = maximum severity (explicit rule violations)
- High warning % = serious violation
- Low warning % (20-40%) = minor-moderate violation

Tournament organizers should respect these classifications.

“Within Reason” Means:

Includes:

- Short temporary bans (≤1 week)
- Low-tier warning levels (10-30%)
- Bans where forum classified as minor-moderate
- Situations where actual harm was minimal

Excludes:

- Permanent bans
- Bans >1 week
- Bans where forum uses maximum severity classification

Deference Principle

When lacking complete information, tournament organizers should defer to forum authority’s determinations rather than second-guess or override them.

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RESPONSE TO CONCERNS

Concern: “But he ATTEMPTED to doxx someone—that’s serious!”

Response:

- Forum authority agrees it was inappropriate (hence the warning)
- But forum authority determined it wasn’t explicit doxxing-level serious (hence 20% warning, not permanent ban)
- Tournament should respect Master’s severity assessment

Concern: “What about community safety?”

Response:

- Forum authority already assessed safety risk
- Master determined 20% warning sufficient
- No evidence of ongoing risk (investigation unsuccessful, nothing posted)
- If Master believed serious safety risk → would have banned permanently

Concern: “Isn’t this being too lenient?”

Response:

- Not about leniency—about applying rules as written
- Tournament rule explicitly allows “temporary bans within reason”
- Forum’s owner treated this as minor-moderate violation.
- Tournament shouldn’t impose stricter standards than the staff itself, unless it deals within the realm of exclusively FUOTY rules, not forum rules. This incident was a forum rule violation, deference to staff is acceptable.

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FINAL DETERMINATION

@Volksstaffel IS ELIGIBLE for FUOTY 2025.

Primary Basis:
2-day temporary ban with 20% warning level falls within tournament exception for “temporary bans spanning no more than 1 week, within reason.”

Three-Part Test:

1. ✅ Temporary ban (not permanent)
1. ✅ Duration ≤ 1 week (2 days < 7 days)
1. ✅ Within reason (20% warning, minimal harm, forum authority determination)

Core Reasoning:
Forum authority (Master) with complete information determined this conduct warranted 20% warning—not permanent doxxing ban. This indicates a low-level offense. This classification should be respected. The tournament rule allows temporary bans “within reason,” and this objectively qualifies.
He paid for some premium ain reverse image search services twice to try and doxx me and failed both times:feelskek:

theres not much to say about it, hes a creep who follows and stalks girls home and takes pictures of them
 
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also he has messaged "my" friends before

i wouldnt be surprised if he did the same with "my" friends again
 
FUOTY 2025 ELIGIBILITY DETERMINATION

Case Report: @Volksstaffel

Date: December 27, 2025
Adjudicator: @enchanted_elixir
Decision: ELIGIBLE

Forum Rules

FUOTY Rules

EXECUTIVE SUMMARY

@Volksstaffel attempted to privately identify @MyDreamIsToBe183CM using reverse image search services. The investigation was unsuccessful and nothing was posted publicly. After initial ban and unban by moderators, Master (forum owner) imposed a 2-day temporary ban with 20% warning level.

Ruling: @Volksstaffel remains eligible for FUOTY 2025 participation.

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KEY FACTS

The Incident:

- @Volksstaffel obtained a photo believed to be @MyDreamIsToBe183CM
- Paid for reverse image search services
- Found no identifying information
- Nothing posted publicly
- Investigation remained private until reported

The Punishment:

- Initial ban by a moderator.
- Unbanned by moderators
- Re-banned by Master: 2 days, 20% warning level

Evidence Available:

- Both parties (@Volksstaffel, @MyDreamIsToBe183CM) admitted to incident
- Staff reviewed evidence and confirmed validity
- Multiple administrators involved in decision
- Tournament organizer was barred and does NOT have access to complete evidence

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APPLICABLE RULES

Forum Rule: “Dox or threaten to dox”
Established Precedent: Explicit doxxing violations = permanent bans

Tournament Rule: “No banned users unless it’s a self-ban or temporary ban spanning no more than 1 week, within reason”

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ANALYSIS

1. Was This an Explicit “Dox or Threaten to Dox” Violation?

Answer: No, based on the punishment assigned.

Key Logic:

```
IF explicit doxxing → permanent ban (established precedent)
@Volksstaffel → 20% warning, 2-day ban
THEREFORE → NOT classified as explicit doxxing
```

Why the punishment matters:

- Master (forum owner) had enough evidence to make an informed decision.
- Master has authority to classify violations
- Master chose 20% warning (low tier) not permanent ban
- This choice necessarily indicates the conduct was NOT treated as explicit doxxing

What actually occurred:

- ❌ No successful doxxing (no information found)
- ❌ No public posting (investigation private)
- ❌ No threats made (no evidence of this)
- ✓ Inappropriate investigation attempt of @MyDreamIsToBe183CM (hence the warning)

2. Does the Ban Fall “Within Reason”?

Answer: Yes.

Objective Factors:

- Duration: 2 days (very short, well under 1 week)
- Severity: 20% warning (low disciplinary tier)
- Actual harm: Minimal (nothing public, nothing found)
- Forum determination: Master deemed this proportionate.

“Within Reason” Analysis:
The phrase grants discretion to evaluate whether a ban represents a minor violation (eligible) vs. serious violation (ineligible).

Supporting factors:
  • Forum authority determined appropriate: Master saw complete evidence and chose this punishment level.
  • Proportionate to harm: No public disclosure, no information obtained
  • Consistent with rule purpose: Exception designed for minor violations; forum classified this as minor-moderate (20% warning)
  • No stated exclusions: Rule doesn’t exclude doxxing-related offenses from “within reason”
  • Equal treatment: Other 2-day bans for similar severity levels would qualify

-----

CRITICAL REASONING

The Dispositive Factor: Deference to Forum Authority

The Problem:
Tournament organizer lacks complete information about the incident.

The Solution:
Defer to the authority who HAD complete information—Master and admin.

Why this matters:

1. Master reviewed all evidence (tournament organizer did not)
1. Master has expertise in forum rules and appropriate classifications
1. Master made a determination: 20% warning, not permanent ban
1. This determination is reliable evidence of how serious the violation was.

The Logic:

- If tournament organizer had complete info → could independently assess
- Tournament organizer lacks complete info → should trust Master’s assessment
- Master’s punishment level = 20% warning → signals minor-moderate violation
- Minor-moderate violation = qualifies for “within reason” exception
- The rule was a forum rule violation, not a tournament rule violation, thus the decision ultimately must come from the staff, not the host.

Why Not Disqualify?

Disqualification would require:

1. Overruling the staff’s determination (I am not staff or have their expertise)
1. Applying stricter standards on the interpretation of forum rules than the staff itself, the host isn’t staff so that would be inappropriate.
1. Adding unstated exceptions (rule doesn’t exclude doxxing-related offenses)
1. Making harsh call with incomplete information (choosing exclusion over inclusion)

None of these approaches are justified.

-----

PRECEDENT ESTABLISHED

Forum Punishment = Classification Evidence

When forum authority assigns punishment, that punishment level indicates how the violation was classified:

- Permanent ban = maximum severity (explicit rule violations)
- High warning % = serious violation
- Low warning % (20-40%) = minor-moderate violation

Tournament organizers should respect these classifications.

“Within Reason” Means:

Includes:

- Short temporary bans (≤1 week)
- Low-tier warning levels (10-30%)
- Bans where forum classified as minor-moderate
- Situations where actual harm was minimal

Excludes:

- Permanent bans
- Bans >1 week
- Bans where forum uses maximum severity classification

Deference Principle

When lacking complete information, tournament organizers should defer to forum authority’s determinations rather than second-guess or override them.

-----

RESPONSE TO CONCERNS

Concern: “But he ATTEMPTED to doxx someone—that’s serious!”

Response:

- Forum authority agrees it was inappropriate (hence the warning)
- But forum authority determined it wasn’t explicit doxxing-level serious (hence 20% warning, not permanent ban)
- Tournament should respect Master’s severity assessment

Concern: “What about community safety?”

Response:

- Forum authority already assessed safety risk
- Master determined 20% warning sufficient
- No evidence of ongoing risk (investigation unsuccessful, nothing posted)
- If Master believed serious safety risk → would have banned permanently

Concern: “Isn’t this being too lenient?”

Response:

- Not about leniency—about applying rules as written
- Tournament rule explicitly allows “temporary bans within reason”
- Forum’s owner treated this as minor-moderate violation.
- Tournament shouldn’t impose stricter standards than the staff itself, unless it deals within the realm of exclusively FUOTY rules, not forum rules. This incident was a forum rule violation, deference to staff is acceptable.

-----

FINAL DETERMINATION

@Volksstaffel IS ELIGIBLE for FUOTY 2025.

Primary Basis:
2-day temporary ban with 20% warning level falls within tournament exception for “temporary bans spanning no more than 1 week, within reason.”

Three-Part Test:

1. ✅ Temporary ban (not permanent)
1. ✅ Duration ≤ 1 week (2 days < 7 days)
1. ✅ Within reason (20% warning, minimal harm, forum authority determination)

Core Reasoning:
Forum authority (Master) with complete information determined this conduct warranted 20% warning—not permanent doxxing ban. This indicates a low-level offense. This classification should be respected. The tournament rule allows temporary bans “within reason,” and this objectively qualifies.
DNR
fuck you and volkstaffel
 
Respect for being so investigative

now if only you. did such investigative journalism on Epstein instead of random Forum incels, you'd actually make decent money.
 

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