My Personal Face Rating Framework/Scale (Objective vs Subjective Attractiveness)

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Good morning boyos, Its my first thread in this website, which is based on my personal attractiveness scale i,e this scale is used by many people but its kinda on the harsher side. Let us finally start :-

I. Facial Attractiveness (Objective – Measurable)

Facial ratings are ideally objective. They can be broken down into 3 main categories:

1. Features (individual parts) :
  • Eye area (canthal tilt, upper eyelid exposure ,scleral show, spacing, pfl, orbitals , lashes , brows ,etc)
  • Jaw area (width, gonial angle, symmetry , chin projection , hyoid positioning ,etc)
  • Nose (projection, deviation, bulbousness, etc)
  • Lips ( fullness, lip assessments from the side, shape, etc ) Ears ( ideally not flared ) Teeth ( ideally straight ) , Hair ( no recession )
  • Skin ( quality i.e collagen , elasticity i.e no facial folds or under eye bags ,etc)

2. Harmony (Craniofacial Ratios) :
Facial thirds ( Ideal : 36%-33%-31% )
Bizygomatic width to bigonial width ( Ideal : 88% )
• TFWHR ( total facial width to height ratio , Ideal : 1.35x )
• FWHR ( facial width to height ratio , Ideal : 1.85-2 )
• ESR ( eye spacing ratio , Ideal : 45% )
• Chin to philtrum ratio ( Ideal : 2.25x )
• Mid face ratio ( Ideal : 1.03x )
• Bitemporal width ( Ideal : 89% )

( NOTE :- I wouldn't mention all the facial ratios since there are too many of them )

3. Dimorphism
(Sexual Differences) :
Neck width
• Browridge projection
• Facial Angularity/Leanness
Overall well developed facial bone structure
Compact eye shape, close set eyebrows , well pronounced jaws , etc

II. Appeal Factors (Subjective – Contextual)

These aren’t part of your objective facial rating but play a big role in real-world attractiveness :

1) SMV (Sexual Market Value): varies by race , ( white race has the highest smv globally ), phenotype ( nordid and atlantid pheno has the most smv ) region , example :- men from south asian countries have less smv than men from european countries even if they are the same attractiveness wise ) and most importantly MONEY ( red pilled cels love to cope with this but they do not realise that despite them being able to fuc$ stacies , they would eventually get cheated on their back, classic jeff bezos example )

2) Coloring: Rarer coloring combos of features are more preffered than the more common ones , For example : If there are 2 men of the same objective facial rating and the first guy has blue eyes + tanned skin and the other guy has dark eyes + dark skin , on avg the foid would pick the guy with 'better' more 'rarer' coloring combos which have high contrast i.e the guy with blue eyes and tanned skin.

3) Status: It has a huge effect on appeal , most mid-looking Hollywood celebs like Ryan Ghosling , Timothee Chalamet , Andrew Garfield , etc get simped for despite being only slightly above avg looking in their primes.

4) Height: Extremely important IRL appeal factor, Below 5'9 = rope , 5'9-5'11 = meh , and 6'0 and above = foids simping like crazy. However face is always superior to height , classic tom cruise , zack efron , ian somerhalder, zayn malik pill.

5) Averageness: Statistically smooth/familiar attractive faces are more preffered generally than people with kinda extreme features. That'swhy many foids prefer Femboy chico over Chad Jordan lmfao.

6 ) Physique & Frame: As much as black pillers hate gymcels , maxxing out your physique does help attract foids upto some extent , this also includes a good frame , 1.6-1 shoulder to waist ratio and chiseled abs. This does not include roidcels tho ( clav is an exception cause he looks natty despite roiding rofl )

7) Niche Maxxing : Niche maxxing refers to maximising your appeal within specific subcultures . For example - those Kpop niche maxxed fags get worshipped in Asia by their fans , some women also prefer men belonging to soft boy niches , which is why men like Harry styles are still simped for. There are also Dom-male niches with men who are ripped , 20+ years old atleast , have deep voices and body covered with tattoos are preferred by some women.

8) Fashion Maxxing: boosts presentation but is only applicable to certain extent , no matter how good a sub 5 dresses he is always gonna be considered ugly unfortunately.

III. The Rating Scale


(Facial ratings only — without factoring in status/height/fashion, etc.)

1) SUB-ALIEN ( 0.5–1.5 ) : It includes people who are extremely deformed, they do not look human and can be mistaken for an alien.

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2) SUBHUMAN ( 1.5–3 ) : Includes people who can be barely be considered human

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3) Incel ( 3-3.75 ) : Men falling in this range do not have any major deformities as the men above but are ugly universally and hence incels. Most extremely obese men fall in this range. Nyhxxa5ni7481 Speech bubble fat

4) LTN ( LOW TIER NORMIE ) :- i) LOW LTN ( 3.75–4 ) : Ugly but you definitely have come across people belonging to this criteria many times in your life


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ii ) MID LTN ( 4–4.25 ) : Average in a lot of asian and african countries but below avg universally :

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iii HIGH LTN ( 4.25–4.5 ) : Dead Average in the continent of Asia and Africa , slightly below average in North America and Europe :

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5. MTN ( MID TIER NORMIE ) :- i) Low MTN ( 4.5–5 ) Dead Average globally , above avg in some countries.

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ii) MID MTN ( 5 ) Above avg universally.

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iii) High MTN ( 5–5.5 ) Attractive but common.

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6. HTN ( HIGH TIER NORMIE ) :- i) Low htn ( 5.5-6) STARTING OF THE MODELLING CRITERIA

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ii ) Mid htn ( 6-6.5 ) Most tiktok 'looksmaxxers' belong to this criteria.


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iii) High HTN ( 6.5-7)
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7. CL ( Chad-lite ) People falling in this criteria are generally famous worldwide for their looks , cl is very rare :- i) Low CL (7-7.5 )
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ii) Mid Cl ( 7.5-8 )
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iii) High Cl (8-8.5 )
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8. CHAD ( the highest rating ever , they are very rare i.e 1 in billions ) :- i) Low Chad (8.5-9)

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ii) Mid Chad (9-9.25)
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iii High Chad (9.25-9.5)
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I think of all things to do in looksmaxing related forums, rating men is the least productive and most useless thing to do.

You learn nothing that you can actually implement & gain nothing from it, apart from being able to rate other MEN properly, completely & utterly useless.
 
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Agreed.
Feel like HTN could be a bit better looking tho but overall i agree on your post.
Nice post bro
 
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I think of all things to do in looksmaxing related forums, rating men is the least productive and most useless thing to do.

You learn nothing that you can actually implement & gain nothing from it, apart from being able to rate other MEN properly, completely & utterly useless.
it does help u gain an understanding of what makes a man attractive tho in some cases. but theres better ways to learn that so i do ultimately agree with u.
 
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it does help u gain an understanding of what makes a man attractive tho in some cases. but theres better ways to learn that so i do ultimately agree with u.
I'm talking about the obsessiveness to the extent that OP made, I've been asked by people to rate their 'misc' and 'ang'(angularity)

It is not difficult to identify where you need to improve yourself, and doesn't require THIS much thought to it.
 
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I think of all things to do in looksmaxing related forums, rating men is the least productive and most useless thing to do.

You learn nothing that you can actually implement & gain nothing from it, apart from being able to rate other MEN properly, completely & utterly useless.
yeah ive lowkey always thought this, when i found the black pill in 2022 when i was like 13.75 i thought to myself that rating dudes was a complete waste if you dont actually get info out of it like as a byproduct learning ratios to use on yourself or getting other info when your on here snooping around.
 
I'm talking about the obsessiveness to the extent that OP made, I've been asked by people to rate their 'misc' and 'ang'(angularity)

It is not difficult to identify where you need to improve yourself, and doesn't require THIS much thought to it.
ratios like if your planning surgery is important to know imo
 
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Sorry for the squished images btw , it looks weird but ig ya'll have already seen these images before and know who these people are
 
ratios like if your planning surgery is important to know imo
im planning a rhino coz i have gandy's nose , gotta plan a trip to turkey to meet Dr. Erkant Soylu
 
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im planning a rhino coz i have gandy's nose , gotta plan a trip to turkey to meet Dr. Erkant Soylu
i mean, is it really that much of a falio? :feelsmega:
 
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How tf is Ian somerhalder not chad:lul:
 
Good morning boyos, Its my first thread in this website, which is based on my personal attractiveness scale i,e this scale is used by many people but its kinda on the harsher side. Let us finally start :-

I. Facial Attractiveness (Objective – Measurable)

Facial ratings are ideally objective. They can be broken down into 3 main categories:

1. Features (individual parts) :
  • Eye area (canthal tilt, upper eyelid exposure ,scleral show, spacing, pfl, orbitals , lashes , brows ,etc)
  • Jaw area (width, gonial angle, symmetry , chin projection , hyoid positioning ,etc)
  • Nose (projection, deviation, bulbousness, etc)
  • Lips ( fullness, lip assessments from the side, shape, etc ) Ears ( ideally not flared ) Teeth ( ideally straight ) , Hair ( no recession )
  • Skin ( quality i.e collagen , elasticity i.e no facial folds or under eye bags ,etc)

2. Harmony (Craniofacial Ratios) :
Facial thirds ( Ideal : 36%-33%-31% )
Bizygomatic width to bigonial width ( Ideal : 88% )
• TFWHR ( total facial width to height ratio , Ideal : 1.35x )
• FWHR ( facial width to height ratio , Ideal : 1.85-2 )
• ESR ( eye spacing ratio , Ideal : 45% )
• Chin to philtrum ratio ( Ideal : 2.25x )
• Mid face ratio ( Ideal : 1.03x )
• Bitemporal width ( Ideal : 89% )

( NOTE :- I wouldn't mention all the facial ratios since there are too many of them )

3. Dimorphism
(Sexual Differences) :
Neck width
• Browridge projection
• Facial Angularity/Leanness
Overall well developed facial bone structure
Compact eye shape, close set eyebrows , well pronounced jaws , etc

II. Appeal Factors (Subjective – Contextual)

These aren’t part of your objective facial rating but play a big role in real-world attractiveness :

1) SMV (Sexual Market Value): varies by race , ( white race has the highest smv globally ), phenotype ( nordid and atlantid pheno has the most smv ) region , example :- men from south asian countries have less smv than men from european countries even if they are the same attractiveness wise ) and most importantly MONEY ( red pilled cels love to cope with this but they do not realise that despite them being able to fuc$ stacies , they would eventually get cheated on their back, classic jeff bezos example )

2) Coloring: Rarer coloring combos of features are more preffered than the more common ones , For example : If there are 2 men of the same objective facial rating and the first guy has blue eyes + tanned skin and the other guy has dark eyes + dark skin , on avg the foid would pick the guy with 'better' more 'rarer' coloring combos which have high contrast i.e the guy with blue eyes and tanned skin.

3) Status: It has a huge effect on appeal , most mid-looking Hollywood celebs like Ryan Ghosling , Timothee Chalamet , Andrew Garfield , etc get simped for despite being only slightly above avg looking in their primes.

4) Height: Extremely important IRL appeal factor, Below 5'9 = rope , 5'9-5'11 = meh , and 6'0 and above = foids simping like crazy. However face is always superior to height , classic tom cruise , zack efron , ian somerhalder, zayn malik pill.

5) Averageness: Statistically smooth/familiar attractive faces are more preffered generally than people with kinda extreme features. That'swhy many foids prefer Femboy chico over Chad Jordan lmfao.

6 ) Physique & Frame: As much as black pillers hate gymcels , maxxing out your physique does help attract foids upto some extent , this also includes a good frame , 1.6-1 shoulder to waist ratio and chiseled abs. This does not include roidcels tho ( clav is an exception cause he looks natty despite roiding rofl )

7) Niche Maxxing : Niche maxxing refers to maximising your appeal within specific subcultures . For example - those Kpop niche maxxed fags get worshipped in Asia by their fans , some women also prefer men belonging to soft boy niches , which is why men like Harry styles are still simped for. There are also Dom-male niches with men who are ripped , 20+ years old atleast , have deep voices and body covered with tattoos are preferred by some women.

8) Fashion Maxxing: boosts presentation but is only applicable to certain extent , no matter how good a sub 5 dresses he is always gonna be considered ugly unfortunately.

III. The Rating Scale


(Facial ratings only — without factoring in status/height/fashion, etc.)

1) SUB-ALIEN ( 0.5–1.5 ) : It includes people who are extremely deformed, they do not look human and can be mistaken for an alien.

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2) SUBHUMAN ( 1.5–3 ) : Includes people who can be barely be considered human

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3) Incel ( 3-3.75 ) : Men falling in this range do not have any major deformities as the men above but are ugly universally and hence incels. Most extremely obese men fall in this range.View attachment 4165261View attachment 4165263

4) LTN ( LOW TIER NORMIE ) :- i) LOW LTN ( 3.75–4 ) : Ugly but you definitely have come across people belonging to this criteria many times in your life


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ii ) MID LTN ( 4–4.25 ) : Average in a lot of asian and african countries but below avg universally :

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iii HIGH LTN ( 4.25–4.5 ) : Dead Average in the continent of Asia and Africa , slightly below average in North America and Europe :

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5. MTN ( MID TIER NORMIE ) :- i) Low MTN ( 4.5–5 ) Dead Average globally , above avg in some countries.

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ii) MID MTN ( 5 ) Above avg universally.

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iii) High MTN ( 5–5.5 ) Attractive but common.

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6. HTN ( HIGH TIER NORMIE ) :- i) Low htn ( 5.5-6) STARTING OF THE MODELLING CRITERIA

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ii ) Mid htn ( 6-6.5 ) Most tiktok 'looksmaxxers' belong to this criteria.


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iii) High HTN ( 6.5-7)
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7. CL ( Chad-lite ) People falling in this criteria are generally famous worldwide for their looks , cl is very rare :- i) Low CL (7-7.5 )
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ii) Mid Cl ( 7.5-8 )
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iii) High Cl (8-8.5 )
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8. CHAD ( the highest rating ever , they are very rare i.e 1 in billions ) :- i) Low Chad (8.5-9)

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ii) Mid Chad (9-9.25)
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iii High Chad (9.25-9.5)
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Most of us don’t rate with smv unless asked to we mostly go by ltn,mtn,htn,cl,chad:forcedsmile: but good post mirin
 
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How tf is Ian somerhalder not chad:lul:
high cl - very close to chad but still not it , Henry cavill , sean o pry , barrett , gandy , drago , john eric hexum , mog him
 
Henry cavill , sean o pry , barrett , gandy , drago , john eric hexum , mog him
They should all be mid-high chad? They are globally known solely for their looks, how can they not be mid-chad and above. Ian somerhalder gets millions of likes on social media because of his looks and he's not a "chad"?
 
Good shit
 
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They should all be mid-high chad? They are globally known solely for their looks, how can they not be mid-chad and above. Ian somerhalder gets millions of likes on social media because of his looks and he's not a "chad"?
ratings are pretty much objective dude , those guys that i mentioned are better looking that somerhalder , if only somerhalder had a pct and his jaw angle was not so weird he'd be a solid chad easily , but still he's very close tho , also he's known by a lot of people not solely coz of his looks but coz of his status lol
 
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should only be from 2 - 8
 
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hmm, psl scale already exists for that , imo the psl scale feels very weird to use ( maybe coz im grey ) idk
Psl scale is fine because no one can be a true 0 or 1 and no one can be a true 9 or 10

Not humanly possible
 

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