My Slavic "best friend" from high school now owns a million-dollar house in his late twenties

[Reckless Turtle]

We haven't spoken in roughly a decade (not even online). It looks like he's a manager/director at some substantial company and has a grad degree.

His parents (Russian and Polish) moved to the US when he was a child, and his dad was in the Russian military at one point. His father had a decent job, but was not wealthy. I'm pretty sure my mother had a better income than him. We both had dysfunctional households.

In high school, we both played soccer and had multiple classes together.

When we were both 15, the hottest chick (~5'10 athlete with extremely top percentile tits) in the school (who was also 15) leaked her nudes. He got in possession of them and was retarded enough to email them to me (I never asked him to). I immediately told him that he was an idiot for sending me CP, and I never saved them. Then he got mad at me for not praising him and posted the pictures on 4chan with my phone number, without even telling me. After my phone started blowing up, I immediately realized what had happened and managed to find the post on /b/ (I know this sounds far-fetched, but we had talked about 4chan before, so I had a hunch where to look). Once I found out what happened, I flipped out on him. Rather than fessing up, he lied and said his "friend" (who didn't go to our high school, and had never been mentioned before to any of our mutual friends) did it as a prank.

Within a few weeks, the nudes had leaked all throughout the high school. The girl's father found out and made the school staff conduct a massive investigation. Ultimately, a large percentage of the male students were reprimanded in one form or another (detention, and there were rumors of criminal investigations against the students who were 18). My friend got busted for distributing the nudes (likely because the school staff made some students show their emails/texts) and received extended detention. Nothing ever happened to me.

Many other shenanigans occurred between us, but that was the most substantial one.

Now for the :

We're both 6'1 and above-average looking. Throughout high school, I had significantly better grades than him (I had one of the highest GPAs in my class for most of grade school). I would occasionally let him cheat off of me, although he would reciprocate by getting leaked exam questions from other students. We were both socially popular and were on a friendly basis with most of the school (a few thousand students). He would score pot off mutual friends and would ask me to join the group but I always declined. He was one of the best "networkers" I've ever known, but I was one of the few people who knew that he could be a snake.

The biggest difference between us is that I have crippling depression and he doesn't. That's why I'm typing this from cheap studio apartment with no more than $2,000 in my bank account.

 

[Reckless Turtle]

Tagging Slavs and wall of text enthusiasts:
@MoggerGaston @Gargantuan @forevergymcelling @Amnesia @Jason Voorhees @Chadeep @dreamcake1mo

 

[Thinking_CEL]

Brutal now ur an OG 2021 cel and he’s a pimp

 

[Thinking_CEL]

Forevergymcelling is a Slav??? Aren’t they supposed to be recessed and subhuman he’s probably mixed

 

[Reckless Turtle]

Forevergymcelling is a Slav??? Aren’t they supposed to be recessed and subhuman he’s probably mixed

He's a brown Slav who likes long stories.

 

[Chadeep]

Such is life. He never found this forum you did

 

[Xangsane]

Reddit tales

 

[Reckless Turtle]

Such is life. He never found this forum you did

I found this forum through a fellow Discord member in a niche gaming community in 2018. He posted that infamous thread of the chubby white British guy geomaxing in Vietnam (I forgot his username). I was already in my 20s and nearly graduating university by that point, so this forum has not affected my develop in any meaningful capacity, unlike many other people here.

 

[Reckless Turtle]

Reddit tales

It's all real. But if you're trying to dox, it's all fake.

 

[sportsmogger]

he’s fucking prime sluts in his million dollar home in malibu

meanwhile ur spamming ”place your vote” to greys in ur rating threads

so brutal

 

[Reckless Turtle]

he’s fucking prime sluts in his million dollar home in malibu

meanwhile ur spamming ”place your vote” to greys in ur rating threads

so brutal

I checked while writing this post and he's getting married very soon (she's pretty but almost certainly not a virgin). It's an expensive, planned wedding with its own website. He was always kind of simp, so this isn't surprising.

But yes, he has enough pull to do what you're describing.

 

[MoggerGaston]

Sounds like you used to mog hard.

Why the depression?!

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Sounds like you used to mog hard.

Why the depression?!

The tragic thing about the incel life is complete stagnation of behaviour, no progress, no maturity. Ur young and u want to change but u can't and u wake and ur in ur 30s now and in a similar situation as OP. This can easily become the norm until your death. Those hoping that something will suddenly change or they'll have an epiphany, turning their life around after, are VERY delusional.

You know the effort and difficulty that's needed for change, you offset it and you accept the comfortable life. But your heart still yearns and screams for a better life. This can easily become the norm until your death. Your depression and everything needs to be dealt about now. Tomorrow never comes.

 

[MoggerGaston]

The tragic thing about the incel life is complete stagnation of behaviour, no progress, no maturity. Ur young and u want to change but u can't and u wake and ur in ur 30s now and in a similar situation as OP. This can easily become the norm until your death. Those hoping that something will suddenly change or they'll have an epiphany, turning their life around after, are VERY delusional.

You know the effort and difficulty that's needed for change, you offset it and you accept the comfortable life. But your heart still yearns and screams for a better life. This can easily become the norm until your death. Your depression and everything needs to be dealt about now. Tomorrow never comes.

Is it all just luck in the end?

Why do some people turn out like this, others dont

 

[Sprinkles]

He was one of the best "networkers" I've ever known

gift of the gab

 

[Reckless Turtle]

Sounds like you used to mog hard.

Why the depression?!

It's genetic. I've followed nearly the same fate as my father (who transmitted it), despite him never raising me (he bailed when I was 3). He also dominated academically but then dropped out a year before finishing his PhD and then basically NEETed for the rest of his life.

 

[Reckless Turtle]

The tragic thing about the incel life is complete stagnation of behaviour, no progress, no maturity. Ur young and u want to change but u can't and u wake and ur in ur 30s now and in a similar situation as OP. This can easily become the norm until your death. Those hoping that something will suddenly change or they'll have an epiphany, turning their life around after, are VERY delusional.

You know the effort and difficulty that's needed for change, you offset it and you accept the comfortable life. But your heart still yearns and screams for a better life. This can easily become the norm until your death. Your depression and everything needs to be dealt about now. Tomorrow never comes.

It's the case for most people, regardless of inceldom, simply due to aging. It will be the case for my former friend too, especially since he's getting married.

I do not even find my situation particularly depressing. I was depressed in school when I was much more socially active and seemingly had more to look forward to.

 

[Reckless Turtle]

gift of the gab

Weirdly, I never thought that we were much different in that skill when we were growing up. But even slight differences can have a major impact on outcomes.

 

[MoggerGaston]

It's genetic. I've followed nearly the same fate as my father (who transmitted it), despite him never raising me (he bailed when I was 3). He also dominated academically but then dropped out a year before finishing his PhD and then basically NEETed for the rest of his life.

being bailed by your own dad isn't genetic. That's a potential massive environmental reason why you ended up this way.

 

[yoshisand]

We haven't spoken in roughly a decade (not even online). It looks like he's a manager/director at some substantial company and has a grad degree.

His parents (Russian and Polish) moved to the US when he was a child, and his dad was in the Russian military at one point. His father had a decent job, but was not wealthy. I'm pretty sure my mother had a better income than him. We both had dysfunctional households.

In high school, we both played soccer and had multiple classes together.

When we were both 15, the hottest chick (~5'10 athlete with extremely top percentile tits) in the school (who was also 15) leaked her nudes. He got in possession of them and was retarded enough to email them to me (I never asked him to). I immediately told him that he was an idiot for sending me CP, and I never saved them. Then he got mad at me for not praising him and posted the pictures on 4chan with my phone number, without even telling me. After my phone started blowing up, I immediately realized what had happened and managed to find the post on /b/ (I know this sounds far-fetched, but we had talked about 4chan before, so I had a hunch where to look). Once I found out what happened, I flipped out on him. Rather than fessing up, he lied and said his "friend" (who didn't go to our high school, and had never been mentioned before to any of our mutual friends) did it as a prank.

Within a few weeks, the nudes had leaked all throughout the high school. The girl's father found out and made the school staff conduct a massive investigation. Ultimately, a large percentage of the male students were reprimanded in one form or another (detention, and there were rumors of criminal investigations against the students who were 18). My friend got busted for distributing the nudes (likely because the school staff made some students show their emails/texts) and received extended detention. Nothing ever happened to me.

Many other shenanigans occurred between us, but that was the most substantial one.

Now for the :

We're both 6'1 and above-average looking. Throughout high school, I had significantly better grades than him (I had one of the highest GPAs in my class for most of grade school). I would occasionally let him cheat off of me, although he would reciprocate by getting leaked exam questions from other students. We were both socially popular and were on a friendly basis with most of the school (a few thousand students). He would score pot off mutual friends and would ask me to join the group but I always declined. He was one of the best "networkers" I've ever known, but I was one of the few people who knew that he could be a snake.

The biggest difference between us is that I have crippling depression and he doesn't. That's why I'm typing this from cheap studio apartment with no more than $2,000 in my bank account.

 

[panjeet currycel]

I checked while writing this post and he's getting married very soon (she's pretty but almost certainly not a virgin). It's an expensive, planned wedding with its own website. He was always kind of simp, so this isn't surprising.

But yes, he has enough pull to do what you're describing.

Hes making the biggest financial mistake of his life
Also life is all about who you know. Education only goes so far

 

[panjeet currycel]

being bailed by your own dad isn't genetic. That's a potential massive environmental reason why you ended up this way.

Ya and he can either do something with his life or be a little bitch and complain about muh depression guyz!!11!

Fucking kids these days

 

[Reckless Turtle]

being bailed by your own dad isn't genetic. That's a potential massive environmental reason why you ended up this way.

Yes, but he had a normal family life and also ended up in a similar position. My circumstances growing up were awful, but I've never had the excuse of growing up poor.

 

[Mosh12]

Immigrants tend to have strong families and more supportive parents

 

[Reckless Turtle]

Hes making the biggest financial mistake of his life
Also life is all about who you know. Education only goes so far

Yes, education is obviously mostly societal brainwashing, but it's still a strong proxy for future success and general intelligence.

Ya and he can either do something with his life or be a little bitch and complain about muh depression guyz!!11!

Fucking kids these days

Panjeet Goggins

 

[MoggerGaston]

Yes, but he had a normal family life and also ended up in a similar position.

You are not your dad genetically, at best you are half his genes.

My circumstances growing up were awful, but I've never had the excuse of growing up poor.

I feel like you have a lot of guilt and pain, negative self-view, low self-esteem. You don't need to have 'the right excuse' for being in the situation you are in.

Things simply happened the way they did and you don't have to mentally torment yourself for it, you don't need an excuse.

 

[Reckless Turtle]

Immigrants tend to have strong families and more supportive parents

His parents were not living together at one point and his dad would apparently leave pot in his apartment/condo.

What you're saying is mostly true for Asian and particularly poor immigrants.

 

[panjeet currycel]

Yes, education is obviously mostly societal brainwashing, but it's still a strong proxy for future success and general intelligence.


Panjeet Goggins

No dumbass, you need to meet certain educational requirements to even get into specific fields. Then its all about who you know. I might know a thing or 2 about this, i have some life experience unlike alot of guys on here

And my advice is solid about him whining on a forum instead of doing something with his life. Maybe a little motivational mesage might get him started on the right path, you never know. When I get pissed off it motivates me to solve the issue but Im also probably a borderline psychopath so that might explain why I get shit done

 

[Reckless Turtle]

You are not your dad genetically, at best you are half his genes.

It's true, but the depression is almost entirely from him. None of my mother's side suffers from depression. Both my mother and uncle are so delusionally narcissistic that it's almost the opposite.

I feel like you have a lot of guilt and pain, negative self-view, low self-esteem. You don't need to have 'the right excuse' for being in the situation you are in.

Things simply happened the way they did and you don't have to mentally torment yourself for it, you don't need an excuse.

It's less of an excuse and more of an obvious explanation. I don't have particularly low self-esteem (I have a confident ego and am competitive), but most of your point is valid.

 

[Reckless Turtle]

No dumbass, you need to meet certain educational requirements to even get into specific fields.

I never denied this.

When I get pissed off it motivates me to solve the issue but Im also probably a borderline psychopath

Dark Triad Panjeet

 

[Crusile]

 

[Reckless Turtle]

 

[panjeet currycel]

I never denied this.


Dark Triad Panjeet

Not jeet but thanks