Whatashame
Only environment hurts / Hoping for a miracle
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I wrote the text in my native language and just translated using google translate so it will have many gramar mistakes.
Veganism comes from illusions planted early in our heads:
-That we can live in an ideal world.
That does not exist. The world is made of injustices and the suffering of some part will always happen, this certainly is not legitimate the suffering of others and therefore a rational analysis of the example is necessary. In this case, eating meat is something humans have been doing for over 2 million years. It is something that enabled our physical and intellectual growth.
-That we are close to this ideal world
The so-called consequences of meat consumption are not irrelevant. But the modern world is a world in decay in all areas. Decreasing meat consumption is a make-up for one of the consequences of these causes.
-That the human being is superior to other animals and as a consequence is able to live without the need to hurt them. Avoiding this pain to the other unnecessarily would be a moral obligation.
There is a certain arrogance here. I think it would be cynical, purist and forcedly humble to say that humans are not superior to other animals. This was the case more than 2 million years ago. We weren't the predators, we were the prey and it was precisely the consumption of meat that made us become the king of the jungle. We might not have the speed, the strength of other animals, but our intelligence is what made us stand out. But considering whether we are superior or not is completely subjective, it is more valid to disregard this first point and analyze the second, “we are able to live without hurting them and avoiding pain is a moral obligation”. I believe that eating meat is something healthy and natural for man, not existing or existing only recognized by vegan tribes throughout history. The lack of meat will have effects on health and therefore, in my view, it is no longer a moral obligation to stop eating it. It's an exchange.
At the same time, Judging the vegan is unfair. In a world dominated by intellectually and morally dishonest people, the existence of a group of people willing to deprive themselves of a pleasure for the benefit of the collective, or of another kind, is commendable. It seems to me that a lot of criticism of veganism comes from people's accommodation. Not because of a logical and individual analysis of the situation, but because of a difficulty in getting out of the comfort zone, when feeling that he might be being immoral by doing something that gives him so much pleasure, this person sees veganism as an opponent that needs to be attacked.
Veganism comes from illusions planted early in our heads:
-That we can live in an ideal world.
That does not exist. The world is made of injustices and the suffering of some part will always happen, this certainly is not legitimate the suffering of others and therefore a rational analysis of the example is necessary. In this case, eating meat is something humans have been doing for over 2 million years. It is something that enabled our physical and intellectual growth.
-That we are close to this ideal world
The so-called consequences of meat consumption are not irrelevant. But the modern world is a world in decay in all areas. Decreasing meat consumption is a make-up for one of the consequences of these causes.
-That the human being is superior to other animals and as a consequence is able to live without the need to hurt them. Avoiding this pain to the other unnecessarily would be a moral obligation.
There is a certain arrogance here. I think it would be cynical, purist and forcedly humble to say that humans are not superior to other animals. This was the case more than 2 million years ago. We weren't the predators, we were the prey and it was precisely the consumption of meat that made us become the king of the jungle. We might not have the speed, the strength of other animals, but our intelligence is what made us stand out. But considering whether we are superior or not is completely subjective, it is more valid to disregard this first point and analyze the second, “we are able to live without hurting them and avoiding pain is a moral obligation”. I believe that eating meat is something healthy and natural for man, not existing or existing only recognized by vegan tribes throughout history. The lack of meat will have effects on health and therefore, in my view, it is no longer a moral obligation to stop eating it. It's an exchange.
At the same time, Judging the vegan is unfair. In a world dominated by intellectually and morally dishonest people, the existence of a group of people willing to deprive themselves of a pleasure for the benefit of the collective, or of another kind, is commendable. It seems to me that a lot of criticism of veganism comes from people's accommodation. Not because of a logical and individual analysis of the situation, but because of a difficulty in getting out of the comfort zone, when feeling that he might be being immoral by doing something that gives him so much pleasure, this person sees veganism as an opponent that needs to be attacked.
