My Testosterone level results are here and I dont know what to do

[ascendedd]

I am confused. Should i still take T? I wanna make muscles. I dont wanna dose really high cuz i dont wanna get infertile. whats a good dose that will get me to 1200 range

 

[BlendedBlade]

Your testosterone levels are decent.

If you wanna take steroids consider all consequences of that and measures that needs to be taken to prevent most of the side effects

Do research about PCT

And think carefully: do you really need it?

 

[ascendedd]

Your testosterone levels are decent.

If you wanna take steroids consider all consequences of that and measures that needs to be taken to prevent most of the side effects

Do research about PCT

And think carefully: do you really need it?

i wanna be atleast 1200 ngdl because for some reason i am unable to build msucles, maybe higher levels will help

 

[BlendedBlade]

i wanna be atleast 1200 ngdl because for some reason i am unable to build msucles, maybe higher levels will help

I don’t think T levers are the issue, maybe you are sleeping bad, not eating enough, or not training hard enough

Or perhaps you just have shitty genetics

700 and 1200 isn’t night and day difference

You can take SERMs like enclomophine to boost your T levels without taking actual T, but this drug has a lot of dangerous side effects that needs to be considered

 

[AryanSchizo]

what’s your free T nigga

 

[Yahya]

i wanna be atleast 1200 ngdl because for some reason i am unable to build msucles, maybe higher levels will help

i'm at 3000
if you have shit androgen receptors you won't be huge

 

[ascendedd]

i'm at 3000
if you have shit androgen receptors you won't be huge

are u at 3000 naturally

what’s your free T nigga

didnt test that

 

[AryanSchizo]

are u at 3000 naturally

didnt test that

yes he’s naturally at 3,000 ngdl

 

[ThePrinceOfPersia]

are u at 3000 naturally

didnt test that

bro free T is the only important one, that might be why youre not growing muscle

 

[Ogionth]

are u at 3000 naturally

didnt test that

95% people are 250-920 ng/DL

There's no benefit to taking test just to get to 1200 from 700 because that would be a very low dosage of test.

Run a proper small cycle 400 mg, your total test levels will be 3K+ during the cycle and your free test will increase too

 

[Evgeniy291]

I am confused. Should i still take T? I wanna make muscles. I dont wanna dose really high cuz i dont wanna get infertile. whats a good dose that will get me to 1200 range

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Only 20% become infertile on trt and if you were to be in those 20% dosage of test wouldn’t matter

 

[Evgeniy291]

95% people are 250-920 ng/DL

There's no benefit to taking test just to get to 1200 from 700 because that would be a very low dosage of test.

Run a proper small cycle 400 mg, your total test levels will be 3K+ during the cycle and your free test will increase too

Enhanced mood energy and motivation

 

[ascendedd]

Only 20% become infertile on trt and if you were to be in those 20% dosage of test wouldn’t matter

is the infertility permanant

 

[Ogionth]

is the infertility permanant

Just run a proper 16 week cycle with HCG and HMG, 0.000000001% chances of infertility

 

[Evgeniy291]

is the infertility permanant

No

 

[lilxder2]

didnt test that

congrats you just wasted money on this then, free T is the only important measure

 

[AryanSchizo]

yes

 

[The Grinch]

.

 

[ascendedd]

Your result: "Somewhere between 200 and 800"

Yeah, thanks for the accuracy

it says 733

 

[The Grinch]

it says 733

Yeah i saw that now

 

[pepelkant]

I don’t think T levers are the issue, maybe you are sleeping bad, not eating enough, or not training hard enough

Or perhaps you just have shitty genetics

700 and 1200 isn’t night and day difference

You can take SERMs like enclomophine to boost your T levels without taking actual T, but this drug has a lot of dangerous side effects that needs to be considered

Just enclo and even clomid dont have minimal sides, maybe elaborate?

 

[BlendedBlade]

Just enclo and even clomid dont have minimal sides, maybe elaborate?

Organ problems , vision problems (e2 receptors in the eyes), mood issues (brain estrogen receptor activation)

 

[Yahya]

are u at 3000 naturally

of course not

 

[pepelkant]

Organ problems , vision problems (e2 receptors in the eyes), mood issues (brain estrogen receptor activation)

Uuh, organ problems? Vision problems are very very very rare and only occur during, not after and your estro actually raises

 

[slaters]

It’s not bad

 

[chadisbeingmade]

Whether that result came back as 400 or 800 it would make precisely 0 impact on your muscle building capabilities or wether injecting becomes worth it or not.

whats a good dose that will get me to 1200 range

Depends on you, everyone responds differently. No idea why you want to get to 1200 specifically though, it’s not beneficial.

i dont wanna get infertile

Only 20% become infertile on trt and if you were to be in those 20% dosage of test wouldn’t matter

No one, and I mean no one gets infertile from blasting Test. HCG and HMG exist. Fertility was never an issue to begin with.

Run a proper cycle. 500mg Test 20 weeks then drop to trt.

 

[squirrel_solitaire]

Just take supplements that maximize your natural testosterone production

 

[Copercel]

Just take supplements that maximize your natural testosterone production

What supplements for example?

 

[squirrel_solitaire]

What supplements for example?

AMS DHEA 25 MG

 

[chadisbeingmade]

Just enclo and even clomid dont have minimal sides, maybe elaborate?

You are an absolute retard if you are touching any SERMS whatsoever.

 

[slaters]

Just take supplements that maximize your natural testosterone production

Do you know what’s cheaper than a multivtiamin

 

[pepelkant]

You are an absolute retard if you are touching any SERMS whatsoever.

Explain nigga

 

[ascendedd]

Whether that result came back as 400 or 800 it would make precisely 0 impact on your muscle building capabilities or wether injecting becomes worth it or not.


Depends on you, everyone responds differently. No idea why you want to get to 1200 specifically though, it’s not beneficial.



No one, and I mean no one gets infertile from blasting Test. HCG and HMG exist. Fertility was never an issue to begin with.

Run a proper cycle. 500mg Test 20 weeks then drop to trt.

TRT for life?

 

[chadisbeingmade]

TRT for life?

Not if you don’t want to. You’ll recover. But you’ll be back on eventually and then decide to fuck coming off and blast and cruise. That’s always how it goes. Cope with “just one cycle bro” all you want.

 

[Copercel]

AMS DHEA 25 MG

It’s like saying ashwaganda is increasing test

 

[squirrel_solitaire]

It’s like saying ashwaganda is increasing test

Google DHEA

 

[Copercel]

Google DHEA

I googled it already. No study suggest that DHEA increase test. It’s not researched enough to say it does.

 

[BoredPrince]

I don’t think T levers are the issue, maybe you are sleeping bad, not eating enough, or not training hard enough

Or perhaps you just have shitty genetics

700 and 1200 isn’t night and day difference

My test is 1250, always thought I had a hard time gaining muscles... Until I actually optimized my diet and training

@ascendedd train for a year with good training and high protein, then evaluate

i'm at 3000
if you have shit androgen receptors you won't be huge

Also a factor, that's why low dose roids can mog high dose natural T

 

[BoredPrince]

Run a proper cycle. 500mg Test 20 weeks then drop to trt.

Isn't that kinda stupid (trt) to do when you're young?

I heard trt is the most beneficial after 40s, cuz that's when levels naturally drop

Jumping on trt while still having a relatively high natural t... Not sure is it worth it


Better to run a cycle or 2 per year, you would still mog 97% of general population

 

[chadisbeingmade]

Isn't that kinda stupid (trt) to do when you're young?

I heard trt is the most beneficial after 40s, cuz that's when levels naturally drop

Jumping on trt while still having a relatively high natural t... Not sure is it worth it


Better to run a cycle or 2 per year, you would still mog 97% of general population

If you want to do 2 cycles a year or constantly run cycles there definitely isn't point coming off. Only if you just want to blast a cycle to “know what it feels
like” then call it quits for years, which never happens after you start.

Lets say you do as you are saying run a cycle. 20 weeks of 500 Test (that of which you will bulk on if you want to have any retainable gain from after stopping). Then let’s say it takes 3 months to be fully back to your baseline Test levels after stopping the cycle. You would have spent 3 months recovering, losing muscle mass, low T, feeling shit etc. Ok, now you have recovered. Now you want to do another cycle, like you said (inevitable after you see how easy gains come, how retaining leanness is easier, how you felt etc when you were on compared to off). You spent those months with low T symptoms, losing muscle mass etc, for what? Just to go back on. Run a cycle and come off again (feel shit for months again) and repeat you are going to be spending multiple months in this cycle with sub-par results and feeling shit for a large portion of the year.

If you are going to use TRT later in life I don't personally see a reason to wait, just blast and cruise and reap the benefits of constant high test levels and being able to use other compounds without suppression without constant ups and downs. Constantly coming off and on you are going to spend 1/3rd of your "relatively high natural t" days recovering if you aren't running anything harsh. Now you want to dabble in some Tren JFL. I mean, who doesn't want to know what it feel like and the gains are like, right? Which is fair considering how fucking mogger it is when used right. Now we looking at 6+ moths recovery if you decide to come off fully.

The way I see it is if you want to start using, commit to it. Don't try and find a middle ground between spending time on and time off, it doesn't work. With the logic that T levels dip in your 40s, you should only begin to consider AAS usage once you are in your 40s. Not to mention that naturally high test levels don't really help you build any additional muscle mass compared to mid or even low-mid end of normal range.

 

[ascendedd]

If you want to do 2 cycles a year or constantly run cycles there definitely isn't point coming off. Only if you just want to blast a cycle to “know what it feels
like” then call it quits for years, which never happens after you start.

Lets say you do as you are saying run a cycle. 20 weeks of 500 Test (that of which you will bulk on if you want to have any retainable gain from after stopping). Then let’s say it takes 3 months to be fully back to your baseline Test levels after stopping the cycle. You would have spent 3 months recovering, losing muscle mass, low T, feeling shit etc. Ok, now you have recovered. Now you want to do another cycle, like you said (inevitable after you see how easy gains come, how retaining leanness is easier, how you felt etc when you were on compared to off). You spent those months with low T symptoms, losing muscle mass etc, for what? Just to go back on. Run a cycle and come off again (feel shit for months again) and repeat you are going to be spending multiple months in this cycle with sub-par results and feeling shit for a large portion of the year.

If you are going to use TRT later in life I don't personally see a reason to wait, just blast and cruise and reap the benefits of constant high test levels and being able to use other compounds without suppression without constant ups and downs. Constantly coming off and on you are going to spend 1/3rd of your "relatively high natural t" days recovering if you aren't running anything harsh. Now you want to dabble in some Tren JFL. I mean, who doesn't want to know what it feel like and the gains are like, right? Which is fair considering how fucking mogger it is when used right. Now we looking at 6+ moths recovery if you decide to come off fully.

The way I see it is if you want to start using, commit to it. Don't try and find a middle ground between spending time on and time off, it doesn't work. With the logic that T levels dip in your 40s, you should only begin to consider AAS usage once you are in your 40s. Not to mention that naturally high test levels don't really help you build any additional muscle mass compared to mid or even low-mid end of normal range.

I would blast and cruise but fertility is a huge issue