Nardil: The cure to Inceldom

[Elias144]

If you identify as an incel or as someone with "abused dog syndrome" get this drug ASAP. Unironically best drug OAT. Best way to describe it is hypomania in a pill.

Don't go to a nurse practitioner or a physician's assistant- in my experience they will not give you this drug under any circumstances. You have to see an MD, preferably a male (less risk averse). Demand that you get this drug (Nardil/Phenelzine) and nothing else. Educate yourself about the drug to increase your odds of having it prescribed. Come up with a long list of other antidepressants/antipsychotics you have tried and failed. If they refuse to prescribe it, go to another doctor.

The diet concerns are real but a complete nonissue in daily life. Literally zero side effects for me, not even exaggerating. I actually get leaner and debloat when I take it. Only downside is you can't take a lot of drugs like amphetamine, MDMA, DXM, and others. Caffeine, Alcohol, Kratom, Weed, Ketamine, and LSD/Shrooms are still OK. If you have ever had an actual manic episode you should definitely not take this drug.

Energy, motivation, and confidence feel similar to amphetamine.

Anxiety reduction is not comparable to any other drug I've tried. With most anxiolytic substances you still feel anxiety, and the substance simply masks it temporarily. On this drug it's like the anxiety is completely gone. I forget what it feels like to have social anxiety when I'm on this.

It takes about one week to really "feel" it so you have to be a bit patient. It does poop out at about 5-6 weeks, so at that point I usually discontinue for 3-4 weeks, then restart. The doctor will tell you that it doesn't reach "max effectiveness" until 4-6 weeks but that seems like bullshit, at 6 weeks I basically feel back to my pre-Nardil baseline.

Every incel on this forum needs to try this drug ASAP. This needs to be your #1 priority.

 

[Matthias8272]

I'm getting gate kept from being prescribed it by specialists despite not responding to anything else, going to just buy online at this point. Also that doesn't sound that great if you have to discontinue it to have it work again but I'm hoping that isn't the case for me as I see people online taking it long term

 

[dllln]

this shit is impossible to get in australia

 

[Kroker]

Where do you live? Cuz it doesn’t exist.

I'm getting gate kept from being prescribed it by specialists despite not responding to anything else, going to just buy online at this point. Also that doesn't sound that great if you have to discontinue it to have it work again but I'm hoping that isn't the case for me as I see people online taking it long term

Is it sold in your country? And welcome back btw long time no see

 

[Matthias8272]

Where do you live? Cuz it doesn’t exist.

Is it sold in your country? And welcome back btw long time no see

Thanks, and NZ. It's under a special section of drugs where my family doctor can't prescribe it (but wants to) so he has to get it green lit by a separate specialist. I asked for parnate a few years ago but was denied, now I'm trying again with nardil and they haven't responded in weeks so still waiting but expecting a no.

 

[decadouche57]

Doesn’t Nardil make you fat

 

[skycrasher111]

If you identify as an incel or as someone with "abused dog syndrome" get this drug ASAP. Unironically best drug OAT. Best way to describe it is hypomania in a pill.

Don't go to a nurse practitioner or a physician's assistant- in my experience they will not give you this drug under any circumstances. You have to see an MD, preferably a male (less risk averse). Demand that you get this drug (Nardil/Phenelzine) and nothing else. Educate yourself about the drug to increase your odds of having it prescribed. Come up with a long list of other antidepressants/antipsychotics you have tried and failed. If they refuse to prescribe it, go to another doctor.

The diet concerns are real but a complete nonissue in daily life. Literally zero side effects for me, not even exaggerating. I actually get leaner and debloat when I take it. Only downside is you can't take a lot of drugs like amphetamine, MDMA, DXM, and others. Caffeine, Alcohol, Kratom, Weed, Ketamine, and LSD/Shrooms are still OK. If you have ever had an actual manic episode you should definitely not take this drug.

Energy, motivation, and confidence feel similar to amphetamine.

Anxiety reduction is not comparable to any other drug I've tried. With most anxiolytic substances you still feel anxiety, and the substance simply masks it temporarily. On this drug it's like the anxiety is completely gone. I forget what it feels like to have social anxiety when I'm on this.

It takes about one week to really "feel" it so you have to be a bit patient. It does poop out at about 5-6 weeks, so at that point I usually discontinue for 3-4 weeks, then restart. The doctor will tell you that it doesn't reach "max effectiveness" until 4-6 weeks but that seems like bullshit, at 6 weeks I basically feel back to my pre-Nardil baseline.

Every incel on this forum needs to try this drug ASAP. This needs to be your #1 priority.

what dose and how long till the hypomania kick in for u i’m on 60mg been a week and i feel nothing but placebo and brain fog

 

[Deleted member 125065]

If you identify as an incel or as someone with "abused dog syndrome" get this drug ASAP. Unironically best drug OAT. Best way to describe it is hypomania in a pill.

Don't go to a nurse practitioner or a physician's assistant- in my experience they will not give you this drug under any circumstances. You have to see an MD, preferably a male (less risk averse). Demand that you get this drug (Nardil/Phenelzine) and nothing else. Educate yourself about the drug to increase your odds of having it prescribed. Come up with a long list of other antidepressants/antipsychotics you have tried and failed. If they refuse to prescribe it, go to another doctor.

The diet concerns are real but a complete nonissue in daily life. Literally zero side effects for me, not even exaggerating. I actually get leaner and debloat when I take it. Only downside is you can't take a lot of drugs like amphetamine, MDMA, DXM, and others. Caffeine, Alcohol, Kratom, Weed, Ketamine, and LSD/Shrooms are still OK. If you have ever had an actual manic episode you should definitely not take this drug.

Energy, motivation, and confidence feel similar to amphetamine.

Anxiety reduction is not comparable to any other drug I've tried. With most anxiolytic substances you still feel anxiety, and the substance simply masks it temporarily. On this drug it's like the anxiety is completely gone. I forget what it feels like to have social anxiety when I'm on this.

It takes about one week to really "feel" it so you have to be a bit patient. It does poop out at about 5-6 weeks, so at that point I usually discontinue for 3-4 weeks, then restart. The doctor will tell you that it doesn't reach "max effectiveness" until 4-6 weeks but that seems like bullshit, at 6 weeks I basically feel back to my pre-Nardil baseline.

Every incel on this forum needs to try this drug ASAP. This needs to be your #1 priority.

Truly the best drug OAT and gatekept by evil lobbies.

 

[Elias144]

what dose and how long till the hypomania kick in for u i’m on 60mg been a week and i feel nothing but placebo and brain fog

I only do 15mg a day until the hypomania kicks in which is usually 5-7 days. Then once I feel it wearing off I increase the dose in increments of 15mg to a max of 60mg before I reset

 

[Elias144]

Doesn’t Nardil make you fat

No that's a myth tbh. It just makes you have a higher appetite but you can simply choose to not eat more

 

[Charismapill333]

Hey brother you still on this? - I completely agree on the fact BP is a horrible ideology and is masking deeper issues that can be fixed by radical lifestyle changes or medicals.

 

[Elias144]

Hey brother you still on this? - I completely agree on the fact BP is a horrible ideology and is masking deeper issues that can be fixed by radical lifestyle changes or medicals.

Yeah bro. It's quite effective for me personally. It relieves me of the neuroses that typically stand between me and my ideal life. Nothing else has been able to give me the same feeling as Nardil and I've tried basically everything one might try for depression.

 

[Charismapill333]

Yeah bro. It's quite effective for me personally. It relieves me of the neuroses that typically stand between me and my ideal life. Nothing else has been able to give me the same feeling as Nardil and I've tried basically everything one might try for depression.

So you cycle it?

 

[skycrasher111]

I only do 15mg a day until the hypomania kicks in which is usually 5-7 days. Then once I feel it wearing off I increase the dose in increments of 15mg to a max of 60mg before I reset

Crazy how such a low dose like that works I started with 45mg for first 2 days then went up to 60 and then like 1.5 weeks later I went up to 90 because I felt the effects at 60 and then it went away. I was probably impatient and if I waited longer 60 maybe could’ve kicked in but I was not willing to wait. 2 days after upping to 90 I felt a relief from social anxiety and what not. I was better and more socialable and less awkward. I did notice the most dramatic change besides the anxiety reduction is the emotional depth, It made me feel very connected to everyone and I feel guilt and wanna hangout with my mom all the time. I’ve currently been on Nardil for 2.5 weeks about like 1.2 weeks on 90 and i’ve noticed a dramatic change but am really hoping that social awkwardness fades completely because I still notice it. Low inhib wise I noticed Nardil’s low inhib is like definitely there but it’s more like in an emotional way like i’m more expressive with my emotions. I was really looking forward to Nardil being more like phenibut or similar to Gabaergic drugs lowered inhibition but it’s unfortunately not. Didn’t mean to write a essay but chargpt don’t be awnsering my questions. Will it get way better, does insomnia go away, when should I use Vorinostat its just sitting in my house?

 

[ConfusedBolivian]

Drug addict rant, good luck with the schizophrenia later on

 

[Elias144]

Crazy how such a low dose like that works I started with 45mg for first 2 days then went up to 60 and then like 1.5 weeks later I went up to 90 because I felt the effects at 60 and then it went away. I was probably impatient and if I waited longer 60 maybe could’ve kicked in but I was not willing to wait. 2 days after upping to 90 I felt a relief from social anxiety and what not. I was better and more socialable and less awkward. I did notice the most dramatic change besides the anxiety reduction is the emotional depth, It made me feel very connected to everyone and I feel guilt and wanna hangout with my mom all the time. I’ve currently been on Nardil for 2.5 weeks about like 1.2 weeks on 90 and i’ve noticed a dramatic change but am really hoping that social awkwardness fades completely because I still notice it. Low inhib wise I noticed Nardil’s low inhib is like definitely there but it’s more like in an emotional way like i’m more expressive with my emotions. I was really looking forward to Nardil being more like phenibut or similar to Gabaergic drugs lowered inhibition but it’s unfortunately not. Didn’t mean to write a essay but chargpt don’t be awnsering my questions. Will it get way better, does insomnia go away, when should I use Vorinostat its just sitting in my house?

No it's not an acute effect like alcohol, phenibut, pregabalin. I think low dose is better for some reason idk why. I went up to 90mg a day and it really did nothing. 45mg seems like as high as you need to go. As for Vorinostat idk because I never used it.

Social awkwardness won't really be cured by a drug it's a skill you have to develop. The drug is only useful to remove obstacles that are preventing you from developing the skill. It's very similar in theory to building muscle. You could take a ton of steroids but you still won't turn into a body builder if you never touch a weight. You can take a ton of prosocial or anxiolytic drugs to aid with the building of social skill, but you will make no progress if you take these drugs and just sit in your room all day. No matter what you have to go and practice the actual skill

 

[GOODRS]

Ik im late but do you abruptly stop when u stop feeling it? I heard it can cause withdrawals and I also heard if u keep taking it for like 2 months the original hypomania u got on week 1-2 comes back much lighter but stays permanently as long as you keep taking it