natty cope

[DNRDniggerking]

after around a year of research I am almost 100% sure that I am nowhere near ready to hop on gear yet. many of you here are retards for hoping on at 16 or whatever but me at 20 I think I am still young and the risk to reward is just not convincing enough.


beginner test cycles of 500mg and such are not gonna give you all that much in return to the amount of effort you have to put in managing estrogen (for the first couple of times you still dont know how your body reacts to estrogen and how you feel if its low or high etc..) and keeping balls alive using HCG if you wanna stay fertile and increase likelihood of a succesful PCT, and trynna keep your hair if you're prone to MPB like me.


its a hassle that costs money and time for a return that is nowhere near the goal I wanna get to.

so what makes sense is to just BnC till you get there which is pretty much HPTA axis suicide and a decision that will leave you on TRT for life when you decide to stop and I am not ready to make that decision for myself at 20.


so I am gonna embrace the natty lifestyle but will include the typical natty cope boosters like enclomiphene and mk677.

 

[DNRDniggerking]

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[Deleted member 107111]

 

[ey88]

Holy high inhib bro

Just stop stressing and hop on roids

Or don’t

 

[DNRDniggerking]

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nigga what

 

[DNRDniggerking]

Holy high inhib bro

Just stop stressing and hop on roids

Or don’t

it's being mature and understanding wtf I am doing. its not fear its mostly sane usage of steroids wont get me where I wanna get so I am gonna stop myself before I start

 

[Deleted member 59811]

after around a year of research I am almost 100% sure that I am nowhere near ready to hop on gear yet. many of you here are retards for hoping on at 16 or whatever but me at 20 I think I am still young and the risk to reward is just not convincing enough.


beginner test cycles of 500mg and such are not gonna give you all that much in return to the amount of effort you have to put in managing estrogen (for the first couple of times you still dont know how your body reacts to estrogen and how you feel if its low or high etc..) and keeping balls alive using HCG if you wanna stay fertile and increase likelihood of a succesful PCT, and trynna keep your hair if you're prone to MPB like me.


its a hassle that costs money and time for a return that is nowhere near the goal I wanna get to.

so what makes sense is to just BnC till you get there which is pretty much HPTA axis suicide and a decision that will leave you on TRT for life when you decide to stop and I am not ready to make that decision for myself at 20.


so I am gonna embrace the natty lifestyle but will include the typical natty cope boosters like enclomiphene and mk677.

Nigga roids are the biggest cope look at clavicular nigger is blasting 500mg test + tren to look 10/15lbs bigger than the average natty.

You're not upgrading at all from a natty physique, makes no difference in attractiveness, might fall you. Even if you wanted to fit the roid niche (30yo + roasties) then you'd have to blast insane shit not some test only cope cycle

You're wasting money on mk677 and enclomiphene you're better off doing creatine and viagra jfl

 

[future slavic chad]

while roids are a cope a bare bones cycle is nothing to worry about, your balls will work just fine and all the other shit is overblown. but again muscles are pretty irrelevant

 

[DNRDniggerking]

Nigga roids are the biggest cope look at clavicular nigger is blasting 500mg test + tren to look 10/15lbs bigger than the average natty.

You're not upgrading at all from a natty physique, makes no difference in attractiveness, might fall you. Even if you wanted to fit the roid niche (30yo + roasties) then you'd have to blast insane shit not some test only cope cycle

You're wasting money on mk677 and enclomiphene you're better off doing creatine and viagra jfl

kinda changed my mind will probably do test and an extensive PCT. in reality you dont need anything more than clav physique but you can definitely get close to it naturally

 

[Deleted member 59811]

kinda changed my mind will probably do test and an extensive PCT. in reality you dont need anything more than clav physique but you can definitely get close to it naturally

You don't even need clavs physique clav is like 190lbs not even 10% and has been roiding since 14 I've meme gymcelled for 3 years and am 172lbs at 10% (borderline below average results jfl, didn't even take creatine did 4 moths bulks and 6 month cuts and then maintained ) same height as him

If you trained seriously for the same amount of time he did you'd get much closer

I also wanted to try random SARMs just cuz they're easy to buy and I was bored but after looking into it more, doing mild stuff like that or test only cycles won't make a valuable difference if any

To see substantial changes you'll have to take heavy stuff and do multiple cycles. If you want an extra 10lbs just train a couple more years tbh

 

[longjohnmong]

not being able to plan long term is one of the hallmarks of low IQ. lol at all these retards who are going to crash and burn by 25 because they think life is just magically over at that point. newsflash, dickwad, you're only 7 years out the gate at 25 and you have another 55 to go

 

[DNRDniggerking]

not being able to plan long term is one of the hallmarks of low IQ. lol at all these retards who are going to crash and burn by 25 because they think life is just magically over at that point. newsflash, dickwad, you're only 7 years out the gate at 25 and you have another 55 to go

whats there to do after 25? actually? wageslave some retard or work for some jews? make new humans to suffer? get married to a whore who wants your money and cucks you first chance she gets? I have nothing to look forward to but a version of myself thats happy and at least comfortable in his own skin, roids promise me that, this is why me and others consider this option. yet that doesnt stop me from measuring out the advantages and disadvantages of roiding objectively and maturely.

 

[DNRDniggerking]

You don't even need clavs physique clav is like 190lbs not even 10% and has been roiding since 14 I've meme gymcelled for 3 years and am 172lbs at 10% (borderline below average results jfl, didn't even take creatine did 4 moths bulks and 6 month cuts and then maintained ) same height as him

If you trained seriously for the same amount of time he did you'd get much closer

I also wanted to try random SARMs just cuz they're easy to buy and I was bored but after looking into it more, doing mild stuff like that or test only cycles won't make a valuable difference if any

To see substantial changes you'll have to take heavy stuff and do multiple cycles. If you want an extra 10lbs just train a couple more years tbh

I am considering SARMs or maybe anavar. sometimes I say fuck it just do test. I dont know still.

 

[Deleted member 59811]

I am considering SARMs or maybe anavar. sometimes I say fuck it just do test. I dont know still.

Seems like you wanna do something just cuz you're bored, just like i wanted to, the idea of it stimulated my dopamine receptors jfl.

But those meme compounds won't do what you're looking for, won't ascend you, you'll look like you've been natty lifting for a little longer.

Go on Reddit and look at how underwhelming sarm cycles are, even the most powerful ones, same with anavar only. You can laugh at pneumos rad 140 thread, that nigga coupled it with newbie gains and his results were pathetic

Listen to what all roiders say here, either you go all in (heavy cycles + cruising) or it's not worth it

 

[DNRDniggerking]

Seems like you wanna do something just cuz you're bored, just like i wanted to, the idea of it stimulated my dopamine receptors jfl.

But those meme compounds won't do what you're looking for, won't ascend you, you'll look like you've been natty lifting for a little longer.

Go on Reddit and look at how underwhelming sarm cycles are, even the most powerful ones, same with anavar only. You can laugh at pneumos rad 140 thread, that nigga coupled it with newbie gains and his results were pathetic

Listen to what all roiders say here, either you go all in (heavy cycles + cruising) or it's not worth it

I've seen enough of those which is why I say I dont know. I've been looking into gh and insulin, wont shut down my shit and will give gains. people say insulin is dangerous and should only be used when competing but in reality it will only kill you if you're a retard. this in addition to a SARM or an oral and a SERM I think I'll make pretty good gains without raping myself long term.

I am looking for a natty limit physique, at my height I'd mog with that, no need to go ogre meathead as much as I'd love to.

 

[longjohnmong]

whats there to do after 25? actually? wageslave some retard or work for some jews? make new humans to suffer? get married to a whore who wants your money and cucks you first chance she gets? I have nothing to look forward to but a version of myself thats happy and at least comfortable in his own skin, roids promise me that, this is why me and others consider this option. yet that doesnt stop me from measuring out the advantages and disadvantages of roiding objectively and maturely.

what's there to do before 25? be a retard? interact with a bunch of other retards? believe a bunch of meaningless bullshit and falsehoods that people under 25 believe?

 

[DNRDniggerking]

what's there to do before 25? be a retard? interact with a bunch of other retards? believe a bunch of meaningless bullshit and falsehoods that people under 25 believe?

just a bit more freedom, I can worry about myself and myself only. mistakes are easily forgiven. life in general is shit before and after 25 for non chads but we have to live it

 

[Deleted member 59811]

I've seen enough of those which is why I say I dont know. I've been looking into gh and insulin, wont shut down my shit and will give gains. people say insulin is dangerous and should only be used when competing but in reality it will only kill you if you're a retard. this in addition to a SARM or an oral and a SERM I think I'll make pretty good gains without raping myself long term.

I am looking for a natty limit physique, at my height I'd mog with that, no need to go ogre meathead as much as I'd love to.

It doesn't take long to reach your limit as a natty if you're training well, seems like the idea of taking some sort of adjunctive supplement strokes your ego jfl

You'll speed up the process a bit that's all. Once you're at your limit and you'll have to come off maintaining your gains will be just as hard as if you never roided. So you'll have to train the whole week, dialed in diet no partying.

Might actually be harder since apparently your test production will reactivate below your previous baseline.

If you want a better than natty but still natty condition then just hop on a high dose of trt and stop fantasizing about it. Sarm only cycles are retarded if you won't be on TRT and all the other cope stuff you're thinking off will make virtually no difference, creatine tier stuff.

 

[longjohnmong]

just a bit more freedom, I can worry about myself and myself only. mistakes are easily forgiven. life in general is shit before and after 25 for non chads but we have to live it

I mean, you're gonna have to be post-25 for the 55 years I mentioned whether you like it or not, so it makes way more sense to figure that out and try to maximize whatever you're gonna get out of it, then to cash in early for a few good years at the expense of the rest of your life.

 

[DNRDniggerking]

It doesn't take long to reach your limit as a natty if you're training well,

10 years?

seems like the idea of taking some sort of adjunctive supplement strokes your ego jfl

maybe

You'll speed up the process a bit that's all.

definitely the goal, I am at my prime now. if I am not out slaying now and being the man that I wanna be then I have effectively missed out on arguably the best part of life.

 

[Deleted member 59811]

10 years

That's more like to squeeze out every single gram of muscle available, you can max out in half that time, like you won't even gain more than a kg after. With SARMs it'll take you 70% of the time maybe ? Without counting pct m's which will slow you down. Also it'll be harder to maintain afterwards as you T wont recover completely

I am at my prime now

You'll age faster with roids and end your prime faster. So in the end you'll save exactly 0 time.

Just do it natty and don't worry about sides but if you want something substantial and quick just blast heavy and cruise

 

[DNRDniggerking]

That's more like to squeeze out every single gram of muscle available, you can max out in half that time, like you won't even gain more than a kg after. With SARMs it'll take you 70% of the time maybe ? Without counting pct m's which will slow you down. Also it'll be harder to maintain afterwards as you T wont recover completely

You'll age faster with roids and end your prime faster. So in the end you'll save exactly 0 time.

Just do it natty and don't worry about sides but if you want something substantial and quick just blast heavy and cruise

its definitely smart that way. but hard to tell that to yourself when you see people getting to where you wanna be or atleast close to after a couple of 16 week cycles of 500mg test. test at these doses can be easily managed if you're commited enough, If you do HCG on cycle and PCT hard, great chance everything goes back to normal, risk is there, but manageable.

 

[Deleted member 59811]

its definitely smart that way. but hard to tell that to yourself when you see people getting to where you wanna be or atleast close to after a couple of 16 week cycles of 500mg test. test at these doses can be easily managed if you're commited enough, If you do HCG on cycle and PCT hard, great chance everything goes back to normal, risk is there, but manageable.

Nigga where do you wanna be ? Clavicular tier jfl ? ( nigga used TREN + other roids too) 500mg test alone isn't even considered a cycle. You'll be a bit better than your natty self. Two 16 week cycles that's 8 months + the pct and the cutting phase it'll be a whole year of gymcelling. You can make substantial gains as a natty in a whole year starting as dyel, the difference is literally 10lbs of muscles or less (another year of nattycelling). Unnoticeable irl

These retarded meme cycles are for maxed out natties that wanna push past their limit, not you hopping off within your natty limit and have your test perma tanked cuz you couldn't wait a year

Only do it if you wanna be on TRT or you'll be worse off in the long run

 

[Subhuman Spiccel]

why roids when its all about bones

 

[DNRDniggerking]

why roids when its all about bones

because my bones are fucked and I have to compensate

 

[DNRDniggerking]

Nigga where do you wanna be ? Clavicular tier jfl ? ( nigga used TREN + other roids too) 500mg test alone isn't even considered a cycle. You'll be a bit better than your natty self. Two 16 week cycles that's 8 months + the pct and the cutting phase it'll be a whole year of gymcelling. You can make substantial gains as a natty in a whole year starting as dyel, the difference is literally 10lbs of muscles or less (another year of nattycelling). Unnoticeable irl

These retarded meme cycles are for maxed out natties that wanna push past their limit, not you hopping off within your natty limit and have your test perma tanked cuz you couldn't wait a year

Only do it if you wanna be on TRT or you'll be worse off in the long run

makes sense, I think I'll keep coping as a natty until I man tf up and BnC