ND Ramblings About Evolution

[permaNTmasking]

Every environment inhabited by the creatures of this planet births , entirely automatically , hierarchy.

Hierarchy is natures way of organizing the weak and the strong.

The strong will thrive and reproduce , advancing evolution into higher life forms and the weak will suffer and die, filtering out the suboptimal from the ideal.

Although this is an incredibly cruel and primitive system , it is done so without awareness or moral justification . It is not good or bad. It just is. There is no conceptual meaning or reason to justify it or explain it.

The predator at the top of the food chain doesn’t kill because it views its prey as inferior or an antagonist deserving of death and domination. It kills for survival.

The weak and unsuitable die not because of some social condition or ideological justification. They suffer and die because of raw evolution.

Humans partake in this mechanism with unfathomable ignorance. Humanities expression of hierarchy and evolution is unmatched in its perversions and wickedness.

Only the mind of a human could allow such a thing to exist. Only the egoic nature of a human being could justify something as cruel as evolution. And you know how we justify our actions ? Through ideology , morality and reason. Which outside of physical objectivity , can be manipulated to fit any desire or agenda, no matter how cruel or how perverse.

Yet this is survival. This is not good or bad. It just is.

Yet humans cannot be truthful in how they express survival, oh no! We create stories to justify our cruelty and wicked nature. We demonize our enemies and spread antagonistic stories. Justifying the entire process that nature has been perpetuating without ego or conceptual intention since creation.

This world is not sick , it just is.

Humanity is sick. Mind is sick.

Do not fear this nature.

Learn of it , understand its mechanism and adapt your individual unique mental framework to survive and thrive amongst it.



TLDR:

Non egoic evolution is better then egoic evolution because it isn't justified by mind

 

[imontheloose]

advancing evolution into higher life forms and the weak will suffer and die, filtering out the suboptimal from the ideal.

Although this is an incredibly cruel and primitive system

How is this cruel or primitive? Under what standard?

it is done so without awareness or moral justification . It is not good or bad. It just is. There is no conceptual meaning or reason to justify it or explain it.

Every system and mechanism is inanimate and insentient and thus cannot have awareness; consequently permanently neutral. The reason/explanation is because it works, simply put. There was no other mechanism which persisted; if you view the human race enduring as ethically positive then you view this system as no longer neutral.

can be manipulated to fit any desire or agenda, no matter how cruel or how perverse.

So your whole rambling about it being wicked is now moot emotivism as always.

This is very unsound reasoning and sounds like self-defeating, regurgitated rhetoric you’ve heard online.

 

[permaNTmasking]

How is this cruel or primitive? Under what standard?

Those who cannot reproduce or thrive in a hierarchical system suffer and die. Uncomfortable experiences like negative emotions and sensations or physical pain are negative. From the point of view that suffering is bad and having suboptimal genes in relation to the environment causes suffering.

Primitive because the mechanism hasn't changed or evolved for all of existence. Although in retrospect if it is a foundational mechanism of reality it will never change so calling it primitive would be inaccurate.

Every system and mechanism is inanimate and insentient and thus cannot have awareness; consequently permanently neutral. The reason/explanation is because it works, simply put. There was no other mechanism which persisted

Yeah, I agree.

if you view the human race enduring as ethically positive then you view this system as no longer neutral.
So your whole rambling about it being wicked is now moot emotivism as always.

I see. I missed what I did there thank you for revealing it to me.

It seems to me that I prefer the neutrality of the system without human opinion, like prescribing it being good or bad but I myself am saying its bad because it causes suffering.

If both cause suffering that's fine but the suffering that isn't justified is pure. Where as suffering caused by humanity is justified by use of mind.

This is very unsound reasoning and sounds like self-defeating, regurgitated rhetoric you’ve heard online.

The thought process could be a regurgitation of an opinion or observation I heard in the past. It came to me as a thought randomly. Is the moot emotivism the thing making the reasoning unsound?

 

[ognencho]

Not a molecule

 

[permaNTmasking]

Not a molecule

thank u rep saar

 

[imontheloose]

Uncomfortable experiences like negative emotions and sensations or physical pain are negative

So you’re a utilitarian? Suffering is inherently evil? How do you define good, a lack of suffering, a utility…?

What if I get a negative emotion from saving innocent children from a fire? Does the fact I am personally suffering make it evil, or does the utility of saving children make it positive?

calling it primitive would be inaccurate.

I know you take it back now, but just to reiterate, that logic would reductio to basic physical fundamentals like force and acceleration proportionality as being similarly primitive.

I see. I missed what I did there thank you for revealing it to me.

You’re welcome!

It seems to me that I prefer the neutrality of the system without human opinion, like prescribing it being good or bad but I myself am saying its bad because it causes suffering.

If both cause suffering that's fine but the suffering that isn't justified is pure. Where as suffering caused by humanity is justified by use of mind.

You can call it negative due to its suffering and invoke a utility clause here, sure, but utilitarianism is a rocky road to go down.

How can suffering ever be justified? What makes suffering (un)justified? Human suffering is arguably much more deserved in an intuitive sense than animal suffering when given typical presumptions of other animals being less sentient than humans: we can have a poetic evil which some might view as beautiful in nature. Animals lack that totally.

Is the moot emotivism the thing making the reasoning unsound?

You can be an emotivist, but you then cannot exclaim that something is good or bad in these sort of contexts. You admit as an emotivist that your bads are others’ goods and vice-versa.