Need High IQ opinions on sarms.

[BlackpillWasted]

so, right now this is what im planning to run. but i need some second opinions.
also what is a good liver support?

Week | RAD140 | Enclomiphene

1 | 7.5mg | 12.5mg

2 | 10mg | 12.5mg

3 | 15mg | 12.5mg

4 | 15mg | 12.5mg

5 | 10mg | 12.5mg

6 | 5mg | 12.5mg
(mini pct)
7 | 0mg | 25mg

8 | 0mg | 25mg

retards stay out.

 

[6'2 MTN]

What about running something less suppressive like Ac 262 or ostarine because enclomiphene might not work well as a test base for a suppresive sarm like RAD

 

[True_North]

so, right now this is what im planning to run. but i need some second opinions.
also what is a good liver support?

Week | RAD140 | Enclomiphene

1 | 7.5mg | 12.5mg

2 | 10mg | 12.5mg

3 | 15mg | 12.5mg

4 | 15mg | 12.5mg

5 | 10mg | 12.5mg

6 | 5mg | 12.5mg
(mini pct)
7 | 0mg | 25mg

8 | 0mg | 25mg

retards stay out.

12.5mg Enclo daily is a bit high when some people double/triple their test taking 6.25mg every 2 days. Some hyper responders even take it 1x/wk and maintain 1000ng/dl+ consistently. At 12.5mg/day, you could throw off your E2 balance and feel like shit, so I'd start low and evaluate from there, preferably with some bloodwork. Enclo also stacks with MK-677 nicely as well due to IGF-1 suppression some people experience.

RAD 140 is one of the more suppressive SARMs, but 5-10mg for 6 weeks on 3 weeks off for most people who stack with 6.25mg Enclo is fine, as the endogenous production usually outpaces the suppression in short cycles. Anything over 10mg and for a longer duration will start to shut you down though, so keep that in mind when you hit week 6 feeling like a demigod growing daily in the mirror and are tempted to cruise.

TUDCA and NAC for liver support. Rub RU58841 on your scalp/temples if you have the Norwood reaper stalking your family tree.

 

[BlackpillWasted]

What about running something less suppressive like Ac 262 or ostarine because enclomiphene might not work well as a test base for a suppresive sarm like RAD

i thought i'd just go for the one with the highest anabolic potency, but ac262 does seem like a lot less risky.

is it still easy to gain alot of muscle quickly when running ac262 instead of rad?

my main thing is that im 4.7% bodyfat and i cannot gain weight, once i notice fat gains and bloat i starve myself, so i cannot really bulk properly. sarms would make muscle gain disgustingly easy.

 

[BlackpillWasted]

12.5mg Enclo daily is a bit high when some people double/triple their test taking 6.25mg every 2 days. Some hyper responders even take it 1x/wk and maintain 1000ng/dl+ consistently. At 12.5mg/day, you could throw off your E2 balance and feel like shit, so I'd start low and evaluate from there, preferably with some bloodwork. Enclo also stacks with MK-677 nicely as well due to IGF-1 suppression some people experience.

RAD 140 is one of the more suppressive SARMs, but 5-10mg for 6 weeks on 3 weeks off for most people who stack with 6.25mg Enclo is fine, as the endogenous production usually outpaces the suppression in short cycles. Anything over 10mg and for a longer duration will start to shut you down though, so keep that in mind when you hit week 6 feeling like a demigod growing daily in the mirror and are tempted to cruise.

TUDCA and NAC for liver support. Rub RU58841 on your scalp/temples if you have the Norwood reaper stalking your family tree.

Thankyou for sharing some of your braincells. <3

i really want to avoid shrinking my balls, and i will kill myself if i ever catch gyno or some shit, so i guessed a higher amount of enclo for prevention wouldve been good.
but ill lower that a bit then, thankyou.

thoughts on Ac262, another user recommended that over rad, but if rad up to 10mg is fine with very low risk, ill take the higher gains over a more mild substance.

luckily norwood 1 but i might run RU anyway, dont want to regress.

TUDCA and NAC it is. much love.

 

[6'2 MTN]

i thought i'd just go for the one with the highest anabolic potency, but ac262 does seem like a lot less risky.

is it still easy to gain alot of muscle quickly when running ac262 instead of rad?

my main thing is that im 4.7% bodyfat and i cannot gain weight, once i notice fat gains and bloat i starve myself, so i cannot really bulk properly. sarms would make muscle gain disgustingly easy.

Rad 140 is a far more potent anabolic

12.5mg Enclo daily is a bit high when some people double/triple their test taking 6.25mg every 2 days. Some hyper responders even take it 1x/wk and maintain 1000ng/dl+ consistently. At 12.5mg/day, you could throw off your E2 balance and feel like shit, so I'd start low and evaluate from there, preferably with some bloodwork. Enclo also stacks with MK-677 nicely as well due to IGF-1 suppression some people experience.

RAD 140 is one of the more suppressive SARMs, but 5-10mg for 6 weeks on 3 weeks off for most people who stack with 6.25mg Enclo is fine, as the endogenous production usually outpaces the suppression in short cycles. Anything over 10mg and for a longer duration will start to shut you down though, so keep that in mind when you hit week 6 feeling like a demigod growing daily in the mirror and are tempted to cruise.

TUDCA and NAC for liver support. Rub RU58841 on your scalp/temples if you have the Norwood reaper stalking your family tree.

What do you think about a 2 month cycle of MK 677 and Enclomiphene for a High test summer? (1000+ ng/dl)

 

[6'2 MTN]

i thought i'd just go for the one with the highest anabolic potency, but ac262 does seem like a lot less risky.

is it still easy to gain alot of muscle quickly when running ac262 instead of rad?

my main thing is that im 4.7% bodyfat and i cannot gain weight, once i notice fat gains and bloat i starve myself, so i cannot really bulk properly. sarms would make muscle gain disgustingly easy.

Yea Rad is far more anabolic, if your worried about suppression you need AC 262 because the enclo will outpace the mild suppression so you will have higher test during the cycle. Even high doses of Ac 262 only suppress only 25 percent with no pct. You could probably expect 5 pounds of lean muscle. Also progress faster than naturally because of the elevated test levels.

 

[BlackpillWasted]

Yea Rad is far more anabolic, if your worried about suppression you need AC 262 because the enclo will outpace the mild suppression so you will have higher test during the cycle. Even high doses of Ac 262 only suppress only 25 percent with no pct. You could probably expect 5 pounds of lean muscle. Also progress faster than naturally because of the elevated test levels.

what do you think is better, running ac for 8 weeks or rad for 6? ill use enclo with both.

 

[6'2 MTN]

what do you think is better, running ac for 8 weeks or rad for 6? ill use enclo with both.

How old are you?

 

[BlackpillWasted]

How old are you?

just turned 21, went into puberty at 17.

 

[6'2 MTN]

Ok very well then you should probably run RAD for steroid like results, i want to run something very similar to you! I have been taking MK 677 the last couple months and I grew, so I am waiting to start my next steps.

 

[True_North]

Thankyou for sharing some of your braincells. <3

i really want to avoid shrinking my balls, and i will kill myself if i ever catch gyno or some shit, so i guessed a higher amount of enclo for prevention wouldve been good.
but ill lower that a bit then, thankyou.

thoughts on Ac262, another user recommended that over rad, but if rad up to 10mg is fine with very low risk, ill take the higher gains over a more mild substance.

luckily norwood 1 but i might run RU anyway, dont want to regress.

TUDCA and NAC it is. much love.

Np boyo. I'm the same way and allergic to the idea of shutting down my HPTA, so keeping the dosage and cycle duration sensible is definitely the way to go. AC-262 is widely considered the best SARM due to its favorable side effect profile, but it's just considerably more expensive and you'll need to be on it longer to get the same results as the more powerful options like RAD or LGD. I'd also just rather roll with a stronger SARM to prep for whiteboy summer.

Honestly, RAD-140 with 6.25mg Enclo is pretty damn safe, and what I'll personally be running with MK-677 ~4x/wk. Some of the studies I looked at had people giga dosing 100-150mg, and even their average liver enzymes weren't in dangerous ranges.

Also forgot to mention, RAD-140 has a half-life of 45-70+ hours, so you only need to dose every 2nd/3rd day. Most people follow the old bro science and take it daily at 15-20mg, not realizing that by the end of the week their active dose is built to like 80mg and WAY above their target range (lmao), when the ceiling for RAD benefits seems to be around 30-40mg before it exclusively increases side effects. That's why I think RAD-140 is much safer than a lot of the hysteria you see online, when 90% of people out there are megadosing by taking it daily, with a good chunk of those likely also drinking alcohol on cycle like total goof bags.

Good on ya for running RU and liver protection anyway, you'll be fine. Enjoy your ascension, and we can compare notes after we both run a full cycle.

 

[True_North]

What do you think about a 2 month cycle of MK 677 and Enclomiphene for a High test summer? (1000+ ng/dl)

The Enclomiphene and MK-677 stack is the GOAT simply due to there being zero test suppression. The only observable drawdown of Enclo (at low dosages) is the IGF-1 crash (not everyone experiences this), which MK-677 more than balances out.

Both of these enhance your endogenous production of test and HGH, so not only are they non-suppressive, they're a lifemaxx from HGH being life-extending and increasing your hair + skin health, as long as you contain the insulin resistance from MK-677 by either running insulin support and/or avoiding simple carbs. Berberine and taking days off should more than make up for the insulin resistance, and most people get away with just limiting simple carbs and taking MK before bed.

 

[BlackpillWasted]

Ok very well then you should probably run RAD for steroid like results, i want to run something very similar to you! I have been taking MK 677 the last couple months and I grew, so I am waiting to start my next steps.

how much did you grow from how much mk for how long?

 

[BlackpillWasted]

Np boyo. I'm the same way and allergic to the idea of shutting down my HPTA, so keeping the dosage and cycle duration sensible is definitely the way to go. AC-262 is widely considered the best SARM due to its favorable side effect profile, but it's just considerably more expensive and you'll need to be on it longer to get the same results as the more powerful options like RAD or LGD. I'd also just rather roll with a stronger SARM to prep for whiteboy summer.

Honestly, RAD-140 with 6.25mg Enclo is pretty damn safe, and what I'll personally be running with MK-677 ~4x/wk. Some of the studies I looked at had people giga dosing 100-150mg, and even their average liver enzymes weren't in dangerous ranges.

Also forgot to mention, RAD-140 has a half-life of 45-70+ hours, so you only need to dose every 2nd/3rd day. Most people follow the old bro science and take it daily at 15-20mg, not realizing that by the end of the week their active dose is built to like 80mg and WAY above their target range (lmao), when the ceiling for RAD benefits seems to be around 30-40mg before it exclusively increases side effects. That's why I think RAD-140 is much safer than a lot of the hysteria you see online, when 90% of people out there are megadosing by taking it daily, with a good chunk of those likely also drinking alcohol on cycle like total goof bags.

Good on ya for running RU and liver protection anyway, you'll be fine. Enjoy your ascension, and we can compare notes after we both run a full cycle.

By the way, you and others have certainly piqued my interest in MK667, considering im probably not going to grow much but i could maybe push out a few centimeters ascending me to 6ft.

Mixing Mk667 with which pct would be best? i still assume enclo, just seems good but if it fuses growth plates there isnt much use in running mk right? (unless you ofcourse dont get the igf1 shutdown)

A little stack i had in mind would then be 10mg Mk667 + 15 mg ac262 + 6.25mg enclo + tudna + nac + ru.
Do you favor this over rad140?

 

[BlackpillWasted]

Time	Compound	Dose
Morning	AC-262	15mg
Morning	Enclo	6.25mg
Morning	NAC	600–1200mg
Morning	TUDCA	250mg
Night	MK-677	10mg
Night	RU-58841	Topical (as needed)

 

[6'2 MTN]

how much did you grow from how much mk for how long?

Took it for 2 months now I literally just grew a centimeter but I'm am 6,2.5 now so im going to run a sarm cycle now. I didn't even take it for height, MK 677 is anabolic is raised IGF-1 one of the most anabolic hormones.

 

[6'2 MTN]

what do you think is better, running ac for 8 weeks or rad for 6? ill use enclo with both.

Definitely running Rad 140, I have been lifting natty for last 3 years just hopped on Mk a couple months ago which took my bench to 300 lbs, and I want to make bank as an online fitness coach this summer lol. I am looking into Rad and Ac 262 as a cycle as you are now!

 

[True_North]

Mixing Mk667 with which pct would be best?

Yeah, cycling MK677 with enclo is an elite duo because of how great they synergize with each other. It pretty much nullifies the only drawdown of enclo which is the potentially suppressed IGF and has a favorable side effect profile as long as you keep the insulin in check. People bitch about MK because it won't give the superphysiological gains that some of the more intense options will, but you can stack it with pretty much everything and is a cheap healthmax.

A little stack i had in mind would then be 10mg Mk667 + 15 mg ac262 + 6.25mg enclo + tudna + nac + ru.

This is probably the best overall stack out there tbh in terms of its side/benefit ratio if you can afford it.. AC262 is a bit less anabolic, but it's praised for having few to little sides. RAD140 can suppress and cause more androgenic sides, but will pack on ridiculous strength and dry size while being much cheaper. Like I said, 95% of people are ODing their dose frequency by taking RAD140 ED and disrespecting the ~ 40-70hr half-life, so I personally believe a low dose RAD cycle with spaced doses is pretty safe with enclo.

It's all about what your goals are boyo. That stack is pretty damn safe and clean though.

 

[wild salmon]

Yeah, cycling MK677 with enclo is an elite duo because of how great they synergize with each other. It pretty much nullifies the only drawdown of enclo which is the potentially suppressed IGF and has a favorable side effect profile as long as you keep the insulin in check. People bitch about MK because it won't give the superphysiological gains that some of the more intense options will, but you can stack it with pretty much everything and is a cheap healthmax.


This is probably the best overall stack out there tbh in terms of its side/benefit ratio if you can afford it.. AC262 is a bit less anabolic, but it's praised for having few to little sides. RAD140 can suppress and cause more androgenic sides, but will pack on ridiculous strength and dry size while being much cheaper. Like I said, 95% of people are ODing their dose frequency by taking RAD140 ED and disrespecting the ~ 40-70hr half-life, so I personally believe a low dose RAD cycle with spaced doses is pretty safe with enclo.

It's all about what your goals are boyo. That stack is pretty damn safe and clean though.

Mk at a high dose of like 30/40 mg a day for a year could grow facial bones right?

 

[cheekbonesforlife]

Yeah, cycling MK677 with enclo is an elite duo because of how great they synergize with each other. It pretty much nullifies the only drawdown of enclo which is the potentially suppressed IGF and has a favorable side effect profile as long as you keep the insulin in check. People bitch about MK because it won't give the superphysiological gains that some of the more intense options will, but you can stack it with pretty much everything and is a cheap healthmax.


This is probably the best overall stack out there tbh in terms of its side/benefit ratio if you can afford it.. AC262 is a bit less anabolic, but it's praised for having few to little sides. RAD140 can suppress and cause more androgenic sides, but will pack on ridiculous strength and dry size while being much cheaper. Like I said, 95% of people are ODing their dose frequency by taking RAD140 ED and disrespecting the ~ 40-70hr half-life, so I personally believe a low dose RAD cycle with spaced doses is pretty safe with enclo.

It's all about what your goals are boyo. That stack is pretty damn safe and clean though.

What do you think about cardarine+ostarine for a summer cutting stack? I also want gain bone gains (if I can) with this stuck, and I don't wanna hop on test or dbol cause that shit is suppressive as hell. If not then this then what about rad140 for bone gains? Im 19 btw

 

[mkhv]

What do you think about me trying shorter and lower dosage cycles of ACP105 or LGD4033? I am really not looking into any PCT or Enclo, my idea was to do cycles of 4 weeks max, and then have a recovery period of at least 8-12 weeks before the next cycle, + to that it will be low doses, for example for LGD I would do 4mg per day. I don't really care about temporary effects like mood swings and libido shit, I am only concerned about preventing perma damage. Or should I just not risk it and do Ostarine?

 

[rik]

Mk at a high dose of like 30/40 mg a day for a year could grow facial bones right?

It would cause diabetes retard

 

[6'2 MTN]

What do you think about cardarine+ostarine for a summer cutting stack? I also want gain bone gains (if I can) with this stuck, and I don't wanna hop on test or dbol cause that shit is suppressive as hell. If not then this then what about rad140 for bone gains? Im 19 btw

tbh unless your obese, you want to have a calorie surplus for bone gains, Mk 677 is likely the best grey area thing for bone mass behing TEST E

 

[wild salmon]

It would cause diabetes retard

U would be mogger after a year with good diet very low sugar