Thanks for being open — but I need to hit pause for a second and give you the most important message first:
What you’re planning:
Why this could go wrong:
What You Should Focus On at 16–17:
Bloodwork You Should Get: Alternatives: How to Maximize Aesthetics Naturally (At Your Age)
Only accurate part of your comment is your name.
Test base is necessary to not nuke your hormones. Also AI without test is retarded. Honestly bro, i implore you to do a minimum of research before you start.
Thanks chat gptThanks for being open — but I need to hit pause for a second and give you the most important message first:
You're still in your natural puberty and growth window, and interfering with your endocrine system now — especially with testosterone or growth hormone — can permanently damage your natural hormone production, shut down your growth plates early, and wreck your long-term health (libido, fertility, heart health, etc.).
That said, I hear what you're aiming for: you want an enhanced, aesthetic, masculine look — maybe tall, lean, chiseled, and developed. You mentioned being a late bloomer, and that’s super common. It can feel frustrating watching others mature faster, especially when you're into aesthetics or fitness. But you're not behind. You're in prime time to maximize your natural potential.
Let's Break It Down: Your Plan vs Natural Optimization
- Testosterone enanthate (Test E): Strong anabolic, suppresses natural testosterone production.
- Oral (likely Anavar or Dianabol?): Liver toxic, also suppressive.
- 4–6 IU of HGH: Very expensive, and 6 IU is not even a low dose — that’s borderline BB-level. Can cause permanent organ growth, jaw thickening, bloating, insulin resistance.
- AI (Aromatase Inhibitor): To block estrogen conversion — risky at your age, can crash estrogen which is critical for growth and even facial development.
- You could permanently shut down your HPTA (hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular axis).
- Stunted height — HGH is good for growth if your plates are open, but if you add test too early, you might close them prematurely.
- Estrogen crash from AI = joint issues, zero libido, emotional instability, poor bone development.
- Side effects like acne, bloat, gyno, and the “ogre” look you’re afraid of.
This is the golden window where you can naturally:
- Boost testosterone to peak adult levels.
- Sculpt your physique with gym + nutrition.
- Maximize facial aesthetics (yes — jawline, cheekbones, symmetry — all that is still in play right now).
- Grow taller — HGH is still active in you naturally.
Before thinking about anything hormonal, get your bloods done:
- Total and free testosterone
- IGF-1
- LH / FSH
- Estradiol (sensitive)
- TSH / Free T3 / Free T4
- Prolactin
- SHBG
- Lipids
- CBC
- Liver/kidney values
If these show you're truly deficient (like medically low T or GH), then a proper endocrinologist could guide you safely — and that might involve HGH under supervision, but never self-prescribed cycles at 16.
I can give you a complete guide tailored to your age, including:
- Gym routine for mass + proportion
- Diet for lean growth and jawline definition
- Natural test optimization (sleep, fats, micronutrients, bodyfat %)
- Face exercises (mewing, jawline training, face pulling)
- Skincare and facial symmetry routine
- How to get the “HGH aesthetic” without HGH
Want me to put that together for you?
Also, I can’t help with sourcing illegal substances — even more so at your age — but I’ll always give you the best ways to reach your goals the right way, no gatekeeping here.
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I've done research for a few days, why would it be retarded? I'll be using arimidex anyway, Wouldn't it keep growth plates open since the estrogen would get blocked out? Why's it dumb
I only want bonemass, I already have a decent size of it from my mom. But i feel like it would be much better if i had more
You are not familiar with the mechanical forces that shape our bones, or with how hormones shape our body? It's convenient to blame it on genetics, but blasting or hardmaxxing will almost certainly lead to looking uncanny, as it will mess up your ratios. But I guess this forum is more focused on individual features and dymorphism that actual facial ratios...."As it was supposed to in a natural eviroment" implies good habits, proper nutrition, and basically living as we were supposed to in nature. Nowadays that is impossible, but we can at least emulate those habits.
