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[L1mbal]

@Gengar @unstable @LTNUser @JordanFagget271 @MiserableMan
@Gargantuan

I made ts edit for the people of india who call indo-Aryans "mleechas" which means foreigners and people who don't belong here
and also @unstable




heres the edit (kind of shitty)

 

[unstable]

that photo actually proves that mleccha was not used for aryans but for non aryans.

mlechha is the term denote foreigner so that indo-aryans avoid mixing with people outside their tribes

all scythian tribes weren't aryans only few tribes were others were heavily mixed with east asians and oxus farmers and likely didn't call themselves aryans.

 

[L1mbal]

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that photo actually proves that mleccha was not used for aryans but for non aryans.

mlechha is the term denote foreigner so that indo-aryans avoid mixing with people outside their tribes

all scythian tribes weren't aryans only few tribes were others were heavily mixed with east asians and oxus farmers and likely didn't call themselves aryans.

Vedic people denoted gurjars who came from central asia as mleechas

 

[unstable]

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Vedic people denoted gurjars who came from central asia as mleechas

i don't think they called gurjars mleccha maybe you could provide some source.

vedic people were aryans themselves
and all central asian tribes weren't aryans only few tribes were aryans.

btw i saw a gurjar wedding procession today although i think they were gujrati gurjars.

 

[L1mbal]

i don't think they called gurjars mleccha maybe you could provide some source.

vedic people were aryans themselves
and all central asian tribes weren't aryans only few tribes were aryans.

btw i saw a gurjar wedding procession today although i think they were gujrati gurjars.

pure gurjars are the ones who didn't mix, and didn't get sanskritised because after they entered modern hinduism, they were forced to mix, that's what I have mentioned in the video itself and also, The vedic people you are referring to itself migrated from the steppe and settled

 

[unstable]

pure gurjars are the ones who didn't mix, and didn't get sanskritised because after they entered modern hinduism, they were forced to mix, that's what I have mentioned in the video itself and also, The vedic people you are referring to itself migrated from the steppe and settled

are you saying gurjars came after vedic people

most vedic people are confirmed aryans

i'd have understand your theory tbh

the video says "we were vedic pagans"?

 

[L1mbal]

are you saying gurjars came after vedic people

most vedic people are confirmed aryans

i'd have understand your theory tbh

the video says "we were vedic pagans"?

vedic pagan means different from Hinduism, vedic paganism is a social construct which was given as a mix of European paganism and scythians, it was not used for jeets rather scythians, and yes gurjars came after ANI, they came from europe-central asia-Iran-Indis

 

[unstable]

vedic pagan means different from Hinduism, vedic paganism is a social construct which was given as a mix of European paganism and scythians, it was not used for jeets rather scythians, and yes gurjars came after ANI, they came from europe-central asia-Iran-Indis

scythians and europeans have nothing to do with vedic paganism they are sister religion to vedic paganism not ancestral religion.

how can vedic people who came before scythians have their religion be used for scythians.

are gurjars descended from scythian huns and/or kushans?

 

[L1mbal]

scythians and europeans have nothing to do with vedic paganism they are sister religion to vedic paganism not ancestral religion.

how can vedic people who came before scythians have their religion be used for scythians.

are gurjars descended from scythian huns and/or kushans?

exactly, sister religions but still called "vedic-pagans" and gurjars descend from 2 main groups, first the scythians and yamnayans, and second the huns with higher WHG, if we look at this time, haryanvi gurjars have highest steppe aswell as highest whg

 

[unstable]

exactly, sister religions but still called "vedic-pagans" and gurjars descend from 2 main groups, first the scythians and yamnayans, and second the huns with higher WHG, if we look at this time, haryanvi gurjars have highest steppe aswell as highest whg

no sister religion is not called vedic paganism as it didn't have vedas it is called scythian religion and europen religion.

1. vedic people are hypothesied to have entered around 2000-1500 bc
2. scythians first camed to india in 100 bc haryan and braj region around 60 bc

3. till then scythians had acquired atleast some dna from bmac and east asian migration which would be shown disproportionally in gurjar dna if they had more scythian dna than people around them but it is not.

4. huns didn't have much bmac dna but significant east asian dna which is also not highlighted among gurjars.

naturally gurjars could have scythian and hun dna but these show that most of their steppe is probably from vedic people not scythians
how ever i could change my mind if you show a source on this scythian dna specifically.

 

[Sektor]

Wtf am i doing with my life

 

[L1mbal]

no sister religion is not called vedic paganism as it didn't have vedas it is called scythian religion and europen religion.

1. vedic people are hypothesied to have entered around 2000-1500 bc
2. scythians first camed to india in 100 bc haryan and braj region around 60 bc

3. till then scythians had acquired atleast some dna from bmac and east asian migration which would be shown disproportionally in gurjar dna if they had more scythian dna than people around them but it is not.

4. huns didn't have much bmac dna but significant east asian dna which is also not highlighted among gurjars.

naturally gurjars could have scythian and hun dna but these show that most of their steppe is probably from vedic people not scythians
how ever i could change my mind if you show a source on this scythian dna specifically.

I don't have a sample but see, the scythian wave and the hun wave were at different intervals, but gurjars WERE in both, they were ethnicaly present

 

[unstable]

I don't have a sample but see, the scythian wave and the hun wave were at different intervals, but gurjars WERE in both, they were ethnicaly present

yeah but their steppe shows more affinity to vedic people than to scythians and huns as both of them had some components that are not well represented in gurjars had they been their sole descendants like bmac or east asian dna.

 

[Gengar]

yeah but their steppe shows more affinity to vedic people than to scythians and huns as both of them had some components that are not well represented in gurjars had they been their sole descendants like bmac or east asian dna.

There were the White Huns and the Huns that invaded/devastated Europe. They’re not considered the same group. It’s the White Huns that invaded/devastated South Asia. They had head-elongating practices that apparently some South Asians still practice. That’s why they had those weird skulls. They likely left a cultural legacy and less of a genetic impact. I don’t think Gurjars are descended from the White Huns. They have the same ancestral components as other Northwestern South Asians.

 

[unstable]

There were the White Huns and the Huns that invaded/devastated Europe. They’re not considered the same group. It’s the White Huns that invaded/devastated South Asia. They had head-elongating practices that apparently some South Asians still practice. That’s why they had those weird skulls. They likely left a cultural legacy and less of a genetic impact. I don’t think Gurjars are descended from the White Huns. They have the same ancestral components as other Northwestern South Asians.

white huns and huns were related.
both practiced head elongation.
because roman sources describe attila as having whisker scars and elongated heads.

i believe the same because gurjars don't have more east asian than their neighbours

and there were two different huns who invaded india too the kidarites and the hepthalites
latter were the ones colloquially called white huns

 

[taai]

white huns and huns were related.
both practiced head elongation.
because roman sources describe attila as having whisker scars and elongated heads.

i believe the same because gurjars don't have more east asian than their neighbours

and there were two different huns who invaded india too the kidarites and the hepthalites
latter were the ones colloquially called white huns

Where can I learn about this? Indian tribes and origins? Is this something passed by schools on your zones? I keep reading ops threads and your comments and I realize I know nothing Abt it

 

[L1mbal]

Where can I learn about this? Indian tribes and origins? Is this something passed by schools on your zones? I keep reading ops threads and your comments and I realize I know nothing Abt it

nope, indian schools are run by niggers who think of people like mine as invaders and outsiders, basically it's genetic study and @Gengar and @unstable are kind of good in it, if you wanna learn it looks at genetic samples and their origin, for example I'm a gurjar-ror and my ancestors come from the scythian tribes and even back then, from Europe so it's all like a tracing game where you find you're ancestors

 

[Gengar]

white huns and huns were related.
both practiced head elongation.
because roman sources describe attila as having whisker scars and elongated heads.

i believe the same because gurjars don't have more east asian than their neighbours

and there were two different huns who invaded india too the kidarites and the hepthalites
latter were the ones colloquially called white huns

• A related but distinct group: Many scholars believe the White Huns were a distinct group from the European Huns, possibly with a different origin and composition, though they shared some connections.

I was going off of that. Perhaps there was a cultural connection? Same thing with Punjabis. Punjabis are genetically diverse but connected through culture or linguistics. That could explain why they both have skull-elongating practices.

Yeah, Gurjars don’t have East Asian ancestry. They are Farmer-heavy like NW South Asians tend to be (with Jats and Rors being an exception as they tend to be Steppe-heavy).

 

[L1mbal]

• A related but distinct group: Many scholars believe the White Huns were a distinct group from the European Huns, possibly with a different origin and composition, though they shared some connections.

I was going off of that. Perhaps there was a cultural connection? Same thing with Punjabis. Punjabis are genetically diverse but connected through culture or linguistics. That could explain why they both have skull-elongating practices.

Yeah, Gurjars don’t have East Asian ancestry. They are Farmer-heavy like NW South Asians tend to be (with Jats and Rors being an exception as they tend to be Steppe-heavy).

rate the edit I made

 

[Gengar]

nope, indian schools are run by niggers who think of people like mine as invaders and outsiders, basically it's genetic study and @Gengar and @unstable are kind of good in it, if you wanna learn it looks at genetic samples and their origin, for example I'm a gurjar-ror and my ancestors come from the scythian tribes and even back then, from Europe so it's all like a tracing game where you find you're ancestors

My knowledge is very basic but you’re right, Indian textbooks are riddled with OOI rhetoric. It’s a systematic problem. There have been ancient samples uncovered by an Indian scientist and he’s not releasing the information because it disproves the Out of India theory.

 

[Gengar]

rate the edit I made

I’ll check it a bit later! I have to go outside soon.

 

[L1mbal]

My knowledge is very basic but you’re right, Indian textbooks are riddled with OOI rhetoric. It’s a systematic problem. There have been ancient samples uncovered by an Indian scientist and he’s not releasing the information because it disproves the Out of India theory.

my teacher went to an extent that she started arguing with me about the Aryans

 

[MiserableMan]

Bs, Gujjars descend from Central Asians, they are BMAC heavy along with steppe. They are not that different from other northerns except slightly heavy on steppe. "we wuzz Europeanzz is complete and utter bullshit".

 

[MiserableMan]

There were the White Huns and the Huns that invaded/devastated Europe. They’re not considered the same group. It’s the White Huns that invaded/devastated South Asia. They had head-elongating practices that apparently some South Asians still practice. That’s why they had those weird skulls. They likely left a cultural legacy and less of a genetic impact. I don’t think Gurjars are descended from the White Huns. They have the same ancestral components as other Northwestern South Asians.

White huns also were exterminated fairly quickly in the north by Samudragupta in the first gupta-hun war, and later by some other King in Madhya pradesh. They never lasted long enough to leave behind any genetic or cultural mark.

 

[L1mbal]

Bs, Gujjars descend from Central Asians, they are BMAC heavy along with steppe. They are not that different from other northerns except slightly heavy on steppe. "we wuzz Europeanzz is complete and utter bullshit".

yeah didn't say that, and also I'm ror mixed

 

[unstable]

Where can I learn about this? Indian tribes and origins? Is this something passed by schools on your zones? I keep reading ops threads and your comments and I realize I know nothing Abt it

what do you want to learn i can tell you more abt it

• A related but distinct group: Many scholars believe the White Huns were a distinct group from the European Huns, possibly with a different origin and composition, though they shared some connections.

I was going off of that. Perhaps there was a cultural connection? Same thing with Punjabis. Punjabis are genetically diverse but connected through culture or linguistics. That could explain why they both have skull-elongating practices.

Yeah, Gurjars don’t have East Asian ancestry. They are Farmer-heavy like NW South Asians tend to be (with Jats and Rors being an exception as they tend to be Steppe-heavy).

there were white black blue and red huns too
these colors are representation of cardinal directions each hun tribe went to in their language
for example white hun means southern hun

this is still preserved in central asia today

never seen a punjabi with elongated head
in my region women make pillows with rye seeds to make sure child's head is not elongated not sure about punjabis

My knowledge is very basic but you’re right, Indian textbooks are riddled with OOI rhetoric. It’s a systematic problem. There have been ancient samples uncovered by an Indian scientist and he’s not releasing the information because it disproves the Out of India theory.

no they are not i have learnt about aryan invasion in school as part of my syllabus

this is pakistani propaganda, indian education board is currently headed by a christian. india is a democratic country with pil system whenever they do such thing it is overriden by the supreme court there was a pil against education board reducing mughal history paragraphs recently i could be wrong here but i heard of it.
@L1mbal nigga you live in india didn't they teach it to you?
current consensus is amt so india is not revising.

White huns also were exterminated fairly quickly in the north by Samudragupta in the first gupta-hun war, and later by some other King in Madhya pradesh. They never lasted long enough to leave behind any genetic or cultural mark.

white huns were exterminated by maukharis and yashodharman
kidarite huns were exterminated by king samudragupta.

 

[MiserableMan]

yeah didn't say that, and also I'm ror mixed

Rors are also similar, they have high ANI plus steppe since Rors migrated from the swat valley after the aryan migration. No group in India clusters closely to Europeans, the trait which makes Indians uncanny orgish is the shitty mix of Zagros and AASI which some northern groups have less amount of like jatts and gujjar, but even they are not super distinct in looks from your typical gangabelt jeet.

 

[MiserableMan]

what do you want to learn i can tell you more abt it


there were white black blue and red huns too
these colors are representation of cardinal directions each hun tribe went to in their language
for example white hun means southern hun

this is still preserved in central asia today

never seen a punjabi with elongated head
in my region women make pillows with rye seeds to make sure child's head is not elongated not sure about punjabis


no they are not i have learnt about aryan invasion in school as part of my syllabus

this is pakistani propaganda, indian education board is currently headed by a christian. india is a democratic country with pil system whenever they do such thing it is overriden by the supreme court there was a pil against education board reducing mughal history paragraphs recently i could be wrong here but i heard of it.
@L1mbal nigga you live in india didn't they teach it to you?
current consensus is amt so india is not revising.


white huns were exterminated by maukharis and yashodharman
kidarite huns were exterminated by king samudragupta.

Hmm yeah, i forgot about the different hun groups. It's been a few years since i have bothered studying about them.

 

[unstable]

Rors are also similar, they have high ANI plus steppe since Rors migrated from the swat valley after the aryan migration. No group in India clusters closely to Europeans, the trait which makes Indians uncanny orgish is the shitty mix of Zagros and AASI which some northern groups have less amount of like jatts and gujjar, but even they are not super distinct in looks from your typical gangabelt jeet.

if rors or other caste were descended from scythians or huns they would have higher east asian but they don't

 

[L1mbal]

Rors are also similar, they have high ANI plus steppe since Rors migrated from the swat valley after the aryan migration. No group in India clusters closely to Europeans, the trait which makes Indians uncanny orgish is the shitty mix of Zagros and AASI which some northern groups have less amount of like jatts and gujjar, but even they are not super distinct in looks from your typical gangabelt jeet.

TYPICAL ?, you sure about that bud

 

[MiserableMan]

if rors or other caste were descended from scythians or huns they would have higher east asian but they don't

Scythians were a mixture of different tribes, they weren't all chink mixed. The ones who settled in Himachal had high percentage of blue eyes but were all mostly dark haired, some groups like the Yeuzhi were more Whiter looking than Asian while others looked more asian with slanty eyes. Keeping that aside, rors nor jatts have anything to do with Sycthians, their descendants are mostly Tajiks, Hazara and pamirs of Afghanistan

 

[unstable]

Scythians were a mixture of different tribes, they weren't all chink mixed. The ones who settled in Himachal had high percentage of blue eyes but were all mostly dark haired, some groups like the Yeuzhi were more Whiter looking than Asian while others looked more asian with slanty eyes. Keeping that aside, rors nor jatts have anything to do with Sycthians, their descendants are mostly Tajiks, Hazara and pamirs of Afghanistan

scythians were elimated quite quickly in northern india
and huns played a important role in that

i don't think they made it far into himachal could be later migration i dunno

not chink but tribes from tarim basin who mixed with scythians gave them east asian dna

yuezhis are not scythians by current consensus and indian and chinese sources describe them as tushara/tocharian

 

[unstable]

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just noticed the girl looks like one of my distant cousin

 

[MiserableMan]

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Cherry picked, a huge percent of rors don't look like that. I had seen ror tourists from Haryana, a lot of them are lightskin but not that pale. Here is a nepali Bahui girl who's fairer than most of the people you posted:

 

[MiserableMan]

scythians were elimated quite quickly in northern india
and huns played a important role in that

i don't think they made it far into himachal could be later migration i dunno

not chink but tribes from tarim basin who mixed with scythians gave them east asian dna

yuezhis are not scythians by current consensus and indian and chinese sources describe them as tushara/tocharian

Tocharain's had chink dna aswell, they are the daddy's of scythians later who descended to India. No Scythians weren't wiped out quickly, they just assimilated into the population.

 

[unstable]

Tocharain's had chink dna aswell, they are the daddy's of scythians later who descended to India. No Scythians weren't wiped out quickly, they just assimilated into the population.

that is where scythians (sakas) got chink dna.
scythians persisted in gujarat till the end and were destroyed later by imperial guptas.

northern kshtrapy didn't last long huns and maturan city states probably took care of them.
how common is colored eyes in himachal.

@L1mbal

i think this is what the average ror looks like as far as i know them.

 

[MiserableMan]

how common is colored eyes in himachal.

@L1mbal
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i think this is what the average ror looks like as far as i know them.

Not that rare if you count hazel eyes, blue is slighty more rarer, while green is somewhat more common compared to blue. Most have dark to light brown eyes though with some variations.

Hmm yeah, that is definitely what your average ror looks like from what i have seen. Slight lighter though.