No free will/nihilism/death: the holy trinity

[vanillaicecream]

Whenever I feel bad, I just think about how I'm a mere puppet to prior causes outside my control, the fact that nothing ultimately matters and there's no inherent purpose to life, and that there will be eternal oblivion, and then I feel at peace and accept things for how they are

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[CoreSchizo]

When you think that you have no control in your life, you are destined to be a loser. Take control of your life.

 

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[vanillaicecream]

When you think that you have no control in your life, you are destined to be a loser. Take control of your life.

There was never any other possibility, I would need to have gone through different life experiences and have a different brain wiring to have it any other way. If I'm not "taking control" (an illusion either way) it's because there was never any other possibility for me

 

[High Cortisol Chad]

Whenever I feel bad, I just think about how I'm a mere puppet to prior causes outside my control, the fact that nothing ultimately matters and there's no inherent purpose to life

True

there will be eternal oblivion

Questionable. It's not 100% proven in either way but empirical evidence strongly suggests that brain activity is not what causes consciousness, unfortunately, or fortunately, depends on what you prefer.

Anesthetic drugs increase brain activity. Metabolically the brain under anesthesia is further away from a state in which the dead brain is than in a normal sober waking state, and the brain in a normal sober waking state is further away from the dead brain than the brain under LSD, psilocybin or DMT.

 

[vanillaicecream]

True


Questionable. It's not 100% proven in either way but empirical evidence strongly suggests that brain activity is not what causes consciousness, unfortunately, or fortunately, depends on what you prefer.

Anesthetic drugs increase brain activity. Metabolically the brain under anesthesia is further away from a state in which the dead brain is than in a normal sober waking state, and the brain in a normal sober waking state is further away from the dead brain than the brain under LSD, psilocybin or DMT.

I'm not sure those findings would necessarily suggest that consciousness is not a emergent property of the brain. There are many observations like this but neuroscience has never concluded that they mean consciousness could be separate from the brain, that's the interpretation of people who want to believe this.

 

[Paul7]

these statements don't mean anything.

 

[High Cortisol Chad]

neuroscience has never concluded that they mean consciousness could be separate from the brain

Neuroscience has never proven the existence of brains or other people beyond my mind/consciousness, that hypothesis (that they do exist beyond/separate from my consciousness) is unfalsifiable. Before you call me crazy, watch your bias, do you actually want to be scientific or just cherry-pick when and how much you want to be scientific?

I'm not sure those findings would necessarily suggest that consciousness is not a emergent property of the brain

This is counter-intuitive from a materialist perspective since, according to materialism, consciousness is brain activity (a totally inactive brain is, after all, a dead and unconscious brain under materialism). Physicalism/materialism also makes more assumptions to explain reality than necessary, which is not in line with Occam's razor.

 

[Deleted member 72832]

I use the Internet to cope and now you remind me of that. Ropemaxxing

 

[vanillaicecream]

Neuroscience has never proven the existence of brains or other people beyond my mind/consciousness,

Physicalism/materialism also makes more assumptions to explain reality than necessary, which is not in line with Occam's razor.

Lmao absotulely not. One of the most absurd things I've ever heard

 

[The Grinch]

Why are you back?

 

[vanillaicecream]

Why are you back?

I'm not

 

[longjohnmong]

There was never any other possibility, I would need to have gone through different life experiences and have a different brain wiring to have it any other way. If I'm not "taking control" (an illusion either way) it's because there was never any other possibility for me

Unless you do take control then not taking control was never a possibility.

 

[Deleted member 20399]

Mf tagged himself

 

[_MVP_]

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[6PSLcel]

When you think that you have no control in your life, you are destined to be a loser. Take control of your life.

No thinking I have free will for my subhuman face