Nootropic Experience Thread

[tyronmaxxing]

I wanna make a thread where I hear your guys experience with the obscure and potent nootropics guys shill on this site. I'm not talking lions mane, shilajit, ashwaghanda or any of that crap but the real shit like vorinostat, lyrica, nardil, etc. I bought some vorinostat and looking forward the trying it but I'm curious what experience you guys have had on it. So far I've only heard vague things like "this nootropic made me a fearless slayer" or "it made me so prosocial" but they don't really go into detail on how they used their new skills or how they could tell they were fearless now.

I'm not into nootropics just for the feel good factor but to experience actual tangible change in my life. That's why I wanna hear how and in what ways did whatever nootropic you used changed your life. I'm planning to give my own personal update by the end of the year since that'll give me some time to experience it as give you guys a detailed experience of what changed for me.

 

[Phxx]

i have lyrica, baclofen and modafinil coming in a few weeks ill update u

 

[tyronmaxxing]

i have lyrica, baclofen and modafinil coming in a few weeks ill update u

Based, my vorinostat is coming in tomorrow.

 

[tyronmaxxing]

i have lyrica, baclofen and modafinil coming in a few weeks ill update u

btw, I have tried modafinil and can tell you now don't expect much from it. All you get is staying up longer and a dopamine boost which, depending on how you use it, can make you more productive. But you still need to want to do it. It's nothing mind bending and is very mild. When I took it my heart rate increased and I got a bit more work done and when I did feel like quitting I was more inclined to carry on instead of adhd wandering back and forth in my room. But even then it was because I had a bit of resolve in myself to complete said action.

Again, don't expect much. It's a great antidepressant though. Really did improve my mood.

 

[Phxx]

btw, I have tried modafinil and can tell you now don't expect much from it. All you get is staying up longer and a dopamine boost which, depending on how you use it, can make you more productive. But you still need to want to do it. It's nothing mind bending and is very mild. When I took it my heart rate increased and I got a bit more work done and when I did feel like quitting I was more inclined to carry on instead of adhd wandering back and forth in my room. But even then it was because I had a bit of resolve in myself to complete said action.

Again, don't expect much. It's a great antidepressant though. Really did improve my mood.

yeah i dont expect much, i just got it cos the site had a minimum spend

 

[tyronmaxxing]

He vorin finally landed today. Will keep you guys updated.

 

[tyronmaxxing]

After having taken vorinostat for just one day (approximately 50mg), I will discuss some of the noticeable changes I've observed.

For one, coping seems easier. I am less bogged down by past mistakes and don't see them as detrimental or disabling as they formerly were. I've heard that vorinostat helps with CPTSD, and this might be evidence supporting that claim.

I was thinking this might be due to placebo, but I have a recurring issue where I blurt out expletives randomly due to certain traumatic experiences, and I noticed this decreased drastically. I think it only happened once or twice.

Things that would usually ruminate in my head and ruin my day seem more tolerable now. If I think of hurtful things someone said to me a while ago, I'm less likely to engage in maladaptive daydreaming and replay the traumatic experience. I still have these thoughts, but they don't carry the same emotional pain that usually accompanies them.

Also, contrary to what I've read here, vorinostat has a long shelf life. I took it around 5PM Friday and still felt the effects until the next day after waking up. I don't think it's placebo since I experienced effects that didn't feel natural - i.e., naturally more stimulated - but the feeling persisted.

I won't call vorinostat a miracle drug just yet. I still suffer from some CPTSD symptoms, involuntary expletives, and discomfort in certain social situations, but it seems to have noticeably reduced the impact of these circumstances. Even just walking down a busy street or sitting still for a while seems noticeably easier, although still challenging.

I'm not dismissing the placebo possibility yet, but the effects so far seem promising after just one session. My next session will be on Monday.

 

[Mr.Proper]

I wouldn't call Lyrica a nootropic, I remember ethnic guys were abusing it in university to get high (while slavs were into alcohol and mj).
About vorinostat - iirc, it was very hyped when it first appeared, destroying fears and such, but eventually, user reports were dissapointing. It may work but not as well as it advertised.
Stimulants like amphetamines (Adderall etc), methylphenidate (Ritalin and such), Modafinil (and other -finils) tend to make one less social usually, with a kind of "tunnel vision" and focus on task.
Phenibut is traditionally considered "prosocial" but it's easy to abuse.
Baclophen is often used as a substitute for alcohol but it's worse than phenibut. Not a nootropic.
Selank is decent but somewhat mild (compared to benzos) anxiolythic which can be used longer term.
Fasoracetam is sometimes used for gaba-b upregulation and has mild anxiolythic properties.
But, given how impatient many people are, especially younger, they want something that "kick in hard immediately" and so tend to abuse stuff and get wrecked eventually.

 

[20/04/2008]

I wouldn't call Lyrica a nootropic, I remember ethnic guys were abusing it in university to get high (while slavs were into alcohol and mj).
About vorinostat - iirc, it was very hyped when it first appeared, destroying fears and such, but eventually, user reports were dissapointing. It may work but not as well as it advertised.
Stimulants like amphetamines (Adderall etc), methylphenidate (Ritalin and such), Modafinil (and other -finils) tend to make one less social usually, with a kind of "tunnel vision" and focus on task.
Phenibut is traditionally considered "prosocial" but it's easy to abuse.
Baclophen is often used as a substitute for alcohol but it's worse than phenibut. Not a nootropic.
Selank is decent but somewhat mild (compared to benzos) anxiolythic which can be used longer term.
Fasoracetam is sometimes used for gaba-b upregulation and has mild anxiolythic properties.
But, given how impatient many people are, especially younger, they want something that "kick in hard immediately" and so tend to abuse stuff and get wrecked eventually.

I can confirm its true

 

[AySab]

After having taken vorinostat for just one day (approximately 50mg), I will discuss some of the noticeable changes I've observed.

For one, coping seems easier. I am less bogged down by past mistakes and don't see them as detrimental or disabling as they formerly were. I've heard that vorinostat helps with CPTSD, and this might be evidence supporting that claim.

I was thinking this might be due to placebo, but I have a recurring issue where I blurt out expletives randomly due to certain traumatic experiences, and I noticed this decreased drastically. I think it only happened once or twice.

Things that would usually ruminate in my head and ruin my day seem more tolerable now. If I think of hurtful things someone said to me a while ago, I'm less likely to engage in maladaptive daydreaming and replay the traumatic experience. I still have these thoughts, but they don't carry the same emotional pain that usually accompanies them.

Also, contrary to what I've read here, vorinostat has a long shelf life. I took it around 5PM Friday and still felt the effects until the next day after waking up. I don't think it's placebo since I experienced effects that didn't feel natural - i.e., naturally more stimulated - but the feeling persisted.

I won't call vorinostat a miracle drug just yet. I still suffer from some CPTSD symptoms, involuntary expletives, and discomfort in certain social situations, but it seems to have noticeably reduced the impact of these circumstances. Even just walking down a busy street or sitting still for a while seems noticeably easier, although still challenging.

I'm not dismissing the placebo possibility yet, but the effects so far seem promising after just one session. My next session will be on Monday.

its best to stack things whilst using Vorniostat.

 

[tyronmaxxing]

Fasoracetam is sometimes used for gaba-b upregulation and has mild anxiolythic properties.

what does Fasoracetam do in terms of effect on social behaviour?

 

[tyronmaxxing]

I can confirm its true

elaborate. share experience.

 

[20/04/2008]

elaborate. share experience.

Pm me

 

[Mr.Proper]

what does Fasoracetam do in terms of effect on social behaviour?

Reduces anxiety while not slowing thought, improves focus and gives a bit of clarity, in combo in may lead to easier time having conversations. But it's mild and if you already have worn off receptors with powerful drugs, it may be like placebo short-term. Longer term it should improve gaba-b receptors sensitivity, so people use it in recovery after benzos and alcohol.

 

[Cyrus]

tried vyvanse and modafinil

vyvanse is pretty good
greatly increases my motivation, focus and satisfaction
noticeably decreased my appetite
larger doses give me crazy tunnel vision and slow down my thinking process
* so take only as much as you need
* also dont take it everyday cuz youll build up a tolerance
* dont take it after 1 pm. it will keep you awake

modafinil is alright
it only good as a wakefulness agent
higher doses make me jittery and impatient
* again, only as much as you need (even 25mg works)
* dont spam everyday. the tolerance is pretty bad with modafinil

 

[tyronmaxxing]

I wouldn't call Lyrica a nootropic, I remember ethnic guys were abusing it in university to get high (while slavs were into alcohol and mj).
About vorinostat - iirc, it was very hyped when it first appeared, destroying fears and such, but eventually, user reports were dissapointing. It may work but not as well as it advertised.

Also, to give my 2 cents on this issue I really think it boils down to laziness. From reading a bit further it seems that for vorinostat to really work you need to also put in a lot and not just expect it to make you put in work. Meditation was key for me. I realised I tolerated far better previous traumtic experiences and viewed them in a different light through meditation. I made myself go through all the emotions again and let it harm be and then before I knew it I became more numb to it and didn't care as much or my trauma turned to anger and I wanted to get my get back.

You also need to do exposure therapy. Which is hard even on vorinostat but for me I realised it made my social skills a bit better. It won't turn you into something you're not but it will make you a truer version of yourself. I'm not fully back to my pre-traumatic state but I am getting there and keeping conversations has become slightly easier.

But most people aren't putting the work in and want to be carried and with this change I think it's more potent. I'm not fully sold yet. As I said I've only had one session but I am really hopeful and actually think this stuff might work.

 

[Mr.Proper]

I realised I tolerated far better previous traumtic experiences and viewed them in a different light through meditation

For dealing with past traumas, having a different perspective and such things, many people will recommend psychodelics.

 

[tyronmaxxing]

For dealing with past traumas, having a different perspective and such things, many people will recommend psychodelics.

which one?

 

[Mr.Proper]

which one?

I'm not experienced with this stuff, but psilocibin and mescaline, I guess.

 

[Kroker]

I wouldn't call Lyrica a nootropic, I remember ethnic guys were abusing it in university to get high (while slavs were into alcohol and mj).
About vorinostat - iirc, it was very hyped when it first appeared, destroying fears and such, but eventually, user reports were dissapointing. It may work but not as well as it advertised.
Stimulants like amphetamines (Adderall etc), methylphenidate (Ritalin and such), Modafinil (and other -finils) tend to make one less social usually, with a kind of "tunnel vision" and focus on task.
Phenibut is traditionally considered "prosocial" but it's easy to abuse.
Baclophen is often used as a substitute for alcohol but it's worse than phenibut. Not a nootropic.
Selank is decent but somewhat mild (compared to benzos) anxiolythic which can be used longer term.
Fasoracetam is sometimes used for gaba-b upregulation and has mild anxiolythic properties.
But, given how impatient many people are, especially younger, they want something that "kick in hard immediately" and so tend to abuse stuff and get wrecked eventually.

How come Baclofen is worse than alcohol?

 

[Mr.Proper]

How come Baclofen is worse than alcohol?

It's worse than phenibut, not alcohol.
But in Russia, there is a lot of "pharmacy cowboys" who abuse it heavily.

 

[tyronmaxxing]

Aight, vorinostat is MID. Its barely did anything. I have a feeling it's doing something but it feels VERY mild imo. Complete waste of time. I took it once every 3 days and I'm still pretty much the same person. All the mild results above I completely take back.

At most I can say I feel ~slightly~ less stressed and it feels like studying has gotten easier but hard to tell if it's placebo or anything like that. I ~think~ that it has calmed my depression and weirdly enough turned it into anger but again I'm unsure. Either way waste of my £70. thanks a lot @Cope for telling me about this miracle drug. Selegiline was far better and gave me noticeable results plus its cheaper so probs going back to that.

Next stop pregabilin and if only someone could tell me where and how to buy it. I don't trust the poos over at indiamart. But until then I'm gonna start taking vorin every day instead of the recommended once per week or after 2 or 3 days starting tomorrow.