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1️⃣ The compound-interest formula of class
Being born to parents in the top income quintile is the single best predictor of staying there: only ~7 % of U.S. kids born bottom-quintile ever reach the top, while 40 % of top-quintile kids stay put. Early context sets the base-rate for every later roll of the dice. Opportunity Insights


2️⃣ Parental wealth at conception
Wealthy parents don’t just write bigger checks; they buy optionality: safer neighborhoods, less maternal stress, better prenatal care, and the buffer to fail forward. By age 30, children of families in the top wealth decile hold 23× the median assets of children from the bottom half—even after controlling for education. ScienceDirect


3️⃣ Neighborhoods: the ZIP-code destiny
Move a child before age 13 from a high-poverty tract to a low-poverty one and adulthood earnings jump 31 %; move after 13 and the gain vanishes. Place shapes peer norms, school budgets, policing, even local job networks. hendren.scholars.harvard.edu


4️⃣ Private schooling’s silent dividend
In the UK a private-school alumnus earns a 29 % pay premium after adjusting for family background. Beyond academics, pupils internalize soft-power codes—accent cues, debating clubs, alumni networks—that gatekeep elite jobs. Oxford Academic


5️⃣ Gentrification & propinquity
Richer newcomers raise rents for long-time residents by ~17 % within five years, nudging poorer families farther from job centers and high-quality schools. Because opportunity flows through proximity (“propinquity”), displacement compounds class silos. Census.gov


6️⃣ Marriage markets & divorce gaps
College graduates now divorce at roughly half the rate (≈25 %) of those without a high-school diploma (≈47 %). Stable two-income households accumulate assets faster and transmit both money and modeling of conflict resolution. The Center for Divorce Education


7️⃣ Social capital: parents’ friends = hidden résumé
When internships aren’t posted, the hiring manager is Dad’s former roommate. Sociologists estimate up to one-third of high-status first jobs are filled informally through extended family networks. Each “I know a person” lifts the odds of landing signals like Goldman Sachs or McKinsey that echo for decades.


8️⃣ Manners as micro-credentials
Table etiquette, accent neutralization, knowing which fork to use—these trivialities function as gatekeeping filters in law firms, diplomatic service, and C-suite mingling. They’re taught over dinner, not in school, and they reassure elites you’re “one of us.”


9️⃣ Conscientiousness: the personality multiplier
Longitudinal data show one SD bump in conscientiousness predicts ~16 % higher lifetime earnings net of IQ and education. Higher-class parenting styles (routine, delayed gratification, firm-but-warm discipline) systematically cultivate this trait. PMC


🔟 Continuity factors you might overlook


  • Asset-priced inflation: Owning a home during a housing boom creates tax-advantaged leverage the renter never catches up to.
  • Early-career risk tolerance: A trust-fund safety net allows unpaid UN internships or failed startups that later explode into elite CV lines.
  • Health trajectories: Low-SES kids are 2× likelier to develop chronic conditions by 40, trimming working years and raising medical debt.
  • Tech access & data exhaust: Wealthier teens curate digital footprints (coding bootcamps, LinkedIn) that algorithmic recruiters will later favor.

Bottom line 🏁
Class isn’t a single barrier—it’s compound interest on dozens of tiny asymmetries that start before birth and keep accruing: education → networks → marriage stability → asset growth. You can’t fake the snowball with “quick money” because the infrastructure of privilege—habits, social circles, risk buffers—takes time to crystallize.


Until policy or collective will flattens these early gradients, the ladder will keep tilting for the kids born
 
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1️⃣ The compound-interest formula of class
Being born to parents in the top income quintile is the single best predictor of staying there: only ~7 % of U.S. kids born bottom-quintile ever reach the top, while 40 % of top-quintile kids stay put. Early context sets the base-rate for every later roll of the dice. Opportunity Insights


2️⃣ Parental wealth at conception
Wealthy parents don’t just write bigger checks; they buy optionality: safer neighborhoods, less maternal stress, better prenatal care, and the buffer to fail forward. By age 30, children of families in the top wealth decile hold 23× the median assets of children from the bottom half—even after controlling for education. ScienceDirect


3️⃣ Neighborhoods: the ZIP-code destiny
Move a child before age 13 from a high-poverty tract to a low-poverty one and adulthood earnings jump 31 %; move after 13 and the gain vanishes. Place shapes peer norms, school budgets, policing, even local job networks. hendren.scholars.harvard.edu


4️⃣ Private schooling’s silent dividend
In the UK a private-school alumnus earns a 29 % pay premium after adjusting for family background. Beyond academics, pupils internalize soft-power codes—accent cues, debating clubs, alumni networks—that gatekeep elite jobs. Oxford Academic


5️⃣ Gentrification & propinquity
Richer newcomers raise rents for long-time residents by ~17 % within five years, nudging poorer families farther from job centers and high-quality schools. Because opportunity flows through proximity (“propinquity”), displacement compounds class silos. Census.gov


6️⃣ Marriage markets & divorce gaps
College graduates now divorce at roughly half the rate (≈25 %) of those without a high-school diploma (≈47 %). Stable two-income households accumulate assets faster and transmit both money and modeling of conflict resolution. The Center for Divorce Education


7️⃣ Social capital: parents’ friends = hidden résumé
When internships aren’t posted, the hiring manager is Dad’s former roommate. Sociologists estimate up to one-third of high-status first jobs are filled informally through extended family networks. Each “I know a person” lifts the odds of landing signals like Goldman Sachs or McKinsey that echo for decades.


8️⃣ Manners as micro-credentials
Table etiquette, accent neutralization, knowing which fork to use—these trivialities function as gatekeeping filters in law firms, diplomatic service, and C-suite mingling. They’re taught over dinner, not in school, and they reassure elites you’re “one of us.”


9️⃣ Conscientiousness: the personality multiplier
Longitudinal data show one SD bump in conscientiousness predicts ~16 % higher lifetime earnings net of IQ and education. Higher-class parenting styles (routine, delayed gratification, firm-but-warm discipline) systematically cultivate this trait. PMC


🔟 Continuity factors you might overlook


  • Asset-priced inflation: Owning a home during a housing boom creates tax-advantaged leverage the renter never catches up to.
  • Early-career risk tolerance: A trust-fund safety net allows unpaid UN internships or failed startups that later explode into elite CV lines.
  • Health trajectories: Low-SES kids are 2× likelier to develop chronic conditions by 40, trimming working years and raising medical debt.
  • Tech access & data exhaust: Wealthier teens curate digital footprints (coding bootcamps, LinkedIn) that algorithmic recruiters will later favor.

Bottom line 🏁
Class isn’t a single barrier—it’s compound interest on dozens of tiny asymmetries that start before birth and keep accruing: education → networks → marriage stability → asset growth. You can’t fake the snowball with “quick money” because the infrastructure of privilege—habits, social circles, risk buffers—takes time to crystallize.


Until policy or collective will flattens these early gradients, the ladder will keep tilting for the kids born
7% jumping from the bottom quantile to the top is actually pretty good. I would’ve expected it to be lower like 1-2% but then again the last 15 years seem to have been the most mobile in terms of opportunities presented to disadvantaged people.

Sadly that’s coming to an end
 
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7% jumping from the bottom quantile to the top is actually pretty good. I would’ve expected it to be lower like 1-2% but then again the last 15 years seem to have been the most mobile in terms of opportunities presented to disadvantaged people.

Sadly that’s coming to an end
Yeah 7% surprised me.

That's quintiles though, so 7% of the bottom 20%, ending up in the top 20% during a lifetime. I guess that puts it into perspective a bit. About 1 in 13 people. Could be a lot worse. Lets hope there's still opportunity like that in future.
 
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Yes this is essentially the Matthew effect wiki
 
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Yeah 7% surprised me.

That's quintiles though, so 7% of the bottom 20%, ending up in the top 20% during a lifetime. I guess that puts it into perspective a bit. About 1 in 13 people. Could be a lot worse. Let’s hope there's still opportunity like that in future.
Ah so it’s not being up top 20% only. The pictures you posted is closer to a 1% lifestyle. At least in the UK.

So it’s probably closer to 0.5-1% to make it into a top 1% lifestyle
 
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Some of the shit I have seen wealthy people enjoying makes me wonder whether there is ever any end or satiation. Good post, goes to show how entrenched and close knit the elites really are.

Small world for them
 
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1️⃣ The compound-interest formula of class
Being born to parents in the top income quintile is the single best predictor of staying there: only ~7 % of U.S. kids born bottom-quintile ever reach the top, while 40 % of top-quintile kids stay put. Early context sets the base-rate for every later roll of the dice. Opportunity Insights


2️⃣ Parental wealth at conception
Wealthy parents don’t just write bigger checks; they buy optionality: safer neighborhoods, less maternal stress, better prenatal care, and the buffer to fail forward. By age 30, children of families in the top wealth decile hold 23× the median assets of children from the bottom half—even after controlling for education. ScienceDirect


3️⃣ Neighborhoods: the ZIP-code destiny
Move a child before age 13 from a high-poverty tract to a low-poverty one and adulthood earnings jump 31 %; move after 13 and the gain vanishes. Place shapes peer norms, school budgets, policing, even local job networks. hendren.scholars.harvard.edu


4️⃣ Private schooling’s silent dividend
In the UK a private-school alumnus earns a 29 % pay premium after adjusting for family background. Beyond academics, pupils internalize soft-power codes—accent cues, debating clubs, alumni networks—that gatekeep elite jobs. Oxford Academic


5️⃣ Gentrification & propinquity
Richer newcomers raise rents for long-time residents by ~17 % within five years, nudging poorer families farther from job centers and high-quality schools. Because opportunity flows through proximity (“propinquity”), displacement compounds class silos. Census.gov


6️⃣ Marriage markets & divorce gaps
College graduates now divorce at roughly half the rate (≈25 %) of those without a high-school diploma (≈47 %). Stable two-income households accumulate assets faster and transmit both money and modeling of conflict resolution. The Center for Divorce Education


7️⃣ Social capital: parents’ friends = hidden résumé
When internships aren’t posted, the hiring manager is Dad’s former roommate. Sociologists estimate up to one-third of high-status first jobs are filled informally through extended family networks. Each “I know a person” lifts the odds of landing signals like Goldman Sachs or McKinsey that echo for decades.


8️⃣ Manners as micro-credentials
Table etiquette, accent neutralization, knowing which fork to use—these trivialities function as gatekeeping filters in law firms, diplomatic service, and C-suite mingling. They’re taught over dinner, not in school, and they reassure elites you’re “one of us.”


9️⃣ Conscientiousness: the personality multiplier
Longitudinal data show one SD bump in conscientiousness predicts ~16 % higher lifetime earnings net of IQ and education. Higher-class parenting styles (routine, delayed gratification, firm-but-warm discipline) systematically cultivate this trait. PMC


🔟 Continuity factors you might overlook


  • Asset-priced inflation: Owning a home during a housing boom creates tax-advantaged leverage the renter never catches up to.
  • Early-career risk tolerance: A trust-fund safety net allows unpaid UN internships or failed startups that later explode into elite CV lines.
  • Health trajectories: Low-SES kids are 2× likelier to develop chronic conditions by 40, trimming working years and raising medical debt.
  • Tech access & data exhaust: Wealthier teens curate digital footprints (coding bootcamps, LinkedIn) that algorithmic recruiters will later favor.

Bottom line 🏁
Class isn’t a single barrier—it’s compound interest on dozens of tiny asymmetries that start before birth and keep accruing: education → networks → marriage stability → asset growth. You can’t fake the snowball with “quick money” because the infrastructure of privilege—habits, social circles, risk buffers—takes time to crystallize.


Until policy or collective will flattens these early gradients, the ladder will keep tilting for the kids born
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Ah so it’s not being up top 20% only. The pictures you posted is closer to a 1% lifestyle. At least in the UK.

So it’s probably closer to 0.5-1% to make it into a top 1% lifestyle
Those pics are rarer than the top 1%. Looks more like the decimals
 
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Some of the shit I have seen wealthy people enjoying makes me wonder whether there is ever any end or satiation. Good post, goes to show how entrenched and close knit the elites really are.

Small world for them
Yes sir.

Designer stores know their goods are "class signals", so they can price them however they like.

You can win the lottery 50 times over, in 1 day, and still not "buy" yourself into a higher social class.

It takes generations or deliberation, location maxxing and relinquishing any socioeconomic trauma you may carry from before.

It's so abstract in the sense that, it cannot be bought with money. It takes generations.

Case study: Conor McGregor with $100m+. Addicted to drugs, hated by higher SES', yet is financially successful and hugely famous.

John who lives in a nice neighbourhood in North London who sends his daughters to private school mogs him. Money is less of a factor than you'd want to believe (re: Socioeconomic class redefinement)
 
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Those pics are rarer than the top 1%. Looks more like the decimals
The expensive clothes, luxury holidays ect can probably be managed on top 1% income in the UK without a family. The gated mansions are probably reserved for top 0.1 percentiles.

I think there’s only 3 ways in general someone from a disadvantaged background can reach that:
- Becoming a successful athlete
- Joining a very lucrative firm in banking, law ect and climbing up to upper management ( will be oldcel by then)
- Creating a successful business ( Lots of luck involved)

Can’t see any other ways tbh
 
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Some of the shit I have seen wealthy people enjoying makes me wonder whether there is ever any end or satiation. Good post, goes to show how entrenched and close knit the elites really are.

Small world for them
Listen to the words from this wise man. No matter how rich you are, you will still want more money, surprisingly, it won't make you any happier. I experienced it first-hand.
 
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The expensive clothes, luxury holidays ect can probably be managed on top 1% income in the UK without a family. The gated mansions are probably reserved for top 0.1 percentiles.

I think there’s only 3 ways in general someone from a disadvantaged background can reach that:
- Becoming a successful athlete
- Joining a very lucrative firm in banking, law ect and climbing up to upper management ( will be oldcel by then)
- Creating a successful business ( Lots of luck involved)

Can’t see any other ways tbh
The smartest people would avoid any of them due to too much time sinkage.

You could be CTO of a company or be very good with technology (I see this happening with AI... lots of techno-aristocrats will arise imo), then know when it's good to pivot from the 9-5, get a role in Senior management, fill up board seats and directorships in other companies, create a network, join venture investing, be very smart with normal investments etc.

You need to be able to spend time with your family too and drink it all in. As we know, raw hard work means jack shit if the incentives are not directly tied back to your total compensation.

I see what you mean about climbing to upper management. But doing that by itself is not enough. You need to break into networks and focus away from hard work and merit once you reach C-suite or strategy level (which is fucking ironic, but what works).
 
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Listen to the words from this wise man. No matter how rich you are, you will still want more money, surprisingly, it won't make you any happier. I experienced it first-hand.
Can I have some money?
 
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Yes sir.

Designer stores know their goods are "class signals", so they can price them however they like.

You can win the lottery 50 times over, in 1 day, and still not "buy" yourself into a higher social class.

It takes generations or deliberation, location maxxing and relinquishing any socioeconomic trauma you may carry from before.

It's so abstract in the sense that, it cannot be bought with money. It takes generations.

Case study: Conor McGregor with $100m+. Addicted to drugs, hated by higher SES', yet is financially successful and hugely famous.

John who lives in a nice neighbourhood in North London who sends his daughters to private school mogs him. Money is less of a factor than you'd want to believe (re: Socioeconomic class redefinement)
Exactly. I was watching an interview by a very successful plumber who owns Pimlico plumbers and all his mannerisms, body language ect scream working class even though he’s a multi millionaire.

The Etonian who makes much less as an art curator will be perceived at a higher social class than a working class self made millionaire.

At the end of the day, most of us aren’t born into the upper class so the only option is to make money and forget about jumping classes. Maybe then you can send your children to private school and slowly over generations Jump into the higher classes.
 
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Maybe then you can send your children to private school and slowly over generations Jump into the higher classes.
Call of duty for many.

People don't talk about class enough. Yet it's deep in the subconscious.
 
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The smartest people would avoid any of them due to too much time sinkage.

You could be CTO of a company or be very good with technology (I see this happening with AI... lots of techno-aristocrats will arise imo), then know when it's good to pivot from the 9-5, get a role in Senior management, fill up board seats and directorships in other companies, create a network, join venture investing, be very smart with normal investments etc.

You need to be able to spend time with your family too and drink it all in. As we know, raw hard work means jack shit if the incentives are not directly tied back to your total compensation.

I see what you mean about climbing to upper management. But doing that by itself is not enough. You need to break into networks and focus away from hard work and merit once you reach C-suite or strategy level (which is fucking ironic, but what works).
The problem is by the time you do all that, you would be an oldcel unless you’re truly exceptional and that’s as rare as becoming a successful athlete. The lifestyle in the pics with the young rich chads is basically unattainable.

Either way you do your best and maybe you can give your children that lifestyle I guess.
 
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I am retired and me bollox :lul:
 
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The problem is by the time you do all that, you would be an oldcel unless you’re truly exceptional and that’s as rare as becoming a successful athlete. The lifestyle in the pics with the young rich chads is basically unattainable.

Either way you do your best and maybe you can give your children that lifestyle I guess.
Do your best maxxing.

I like it.

High IQ.

And yeah I agree. I put extreme pics in my threads so they get responses.

All of us need to play the game we're dealt, with the card we're dealt, as best as we can, while enjoying ourselves.
 
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Yeah I'm not retired haha.:ROFLMAO:

But Solana was a nice one. Really really nice
 
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Bump - 73 active viewers and no one wants to chime in?
 
Can’t see any other ways tbh
I know a way for a little while. Just commit fraud. You can enjoy your youth being wealthy before the law catches up and you LDAR in prison.

Some of the shit I have seen wealthy people enjoying makes me wonder whether there is ever any end or satiation
I can't envy rich people. There is just nothing you can buy. I envy Chads and high-IQ men. Fucking women and being respected, and being able to solve problems and understand the world we live in is just way better than buying a Bugatti Veyron.

I guess being part of high society makes it easier to maintain an ego until your death. Ego is a complex product of numerous coping mechanisms. And I guess, if you are A FUCKING VIEN and MATERIALISTIC NORMIE, owning a bunch of pointless shit in a big house is par for the course. Money is actually super useful for normies. But a blackpilled man is cut too deep by the BP to see that illusion nor have an ego.
You don't know what goes on behind closed doors. Families can be fucked up but still be part of that upper class in a gated house or whatever.

I uses to be friends with a guy who's parents sent him to peasant public school because of philosophical reasons. He had a huge manor house with servents and a fucking grand piano in the dining hall. When I to stay with him, I swear it was like a vision of Blood Brothers.
But his family were mental.
 
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I know a way for a little while. Just commit fraud. You can enjoy your youth being wealthy before the law catches up and you LDAR in prison.


I can't envy rich people. There is just nothing you can buy. I envy Chads and high-IQ men. Fucking women and being respected, and being able to solve problems and understand the world we live in is just way better than buying a Bugatti Veyron.

I guess being part of high society makes it easier to maintain an ego until your death. Ego is a complex product of numerous coping mechanisms. And I guess, if you are A FUCKING VIEN and MATERIALISTIC NORMIE, owning a bunch of pointless shit in a big house is par for the course. Money is actually super useful for normies. But a blackpilled man is cut too deep by the BP to see that illusion nor have an ego.

You don't know what goes on behind closed doors. Families can be fucked up but still be part of that upper class.
Yes I forget about crime. It’s probably the most stressful jfl. Also a few lucky chances with cryptocurrency and such but it’s becoming more scarce
 
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Over before it began really.
 
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I already made a thread like this before

 
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Bump - 73 active viewers and no one wants to chime in?
There's just too much cope and envy

Looks and social class is everything in life, 2 things that can hardly be changed, hence normies cope with muh effort (gym, personality, meritocracy)
 
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The biggest blackpill is that we will never be young, rich and handsome

You can get rich and ascend, but youth will be long gone
 
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John who lives in a nice neighbourhood in North London who sends his daughters to private school mogs him.
Mogs him in terms of what though?

Though I'm very much the opposite of Connor McGregor, what matters the most is surely total happiness throughout your life.

Is he happy? Only he can answer that but whether he is respected by those who are respected, is possibly not something he cares about.
 

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