Officially over for Indian software devs in the West?

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So. Comment below.

Elon Musk has taken H1B Indians under his wing.

The left and mainstream hate Elon Musk.

Indians are in the firing line now both by MAGA ethnostate right wing low IQ cels AND the entire normie population.

Tough place to be in. That's like 95% of the US.


I've seen multiple anti-Indian TikToks from liberal normies already. Stay strong my Indian brothers.
 
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tbh I'll say it.

software dev is a terrible career to get into. It was ruined by the normies. Pre covid all those microsoft and google employees posting their lavish 100k+ cushy office job really pushed everyone to get into the field.

In my high school there were literally only two options guys would pick for their university. Either medicine or software dev.

Look how saturated the market is now if everyone gets into the same field then the value drops. There isn't even a reason to bring indians over to the west anymore since it can be done off shore.

Glad I saw right through it.

Dodged an awful career mistake
 
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tbh I'll say it.

software dev is a terrible career to get into. It was ruined by the normies. Pre covid all those microsoft and google employees posting their lavish 100k+ cushy office job really pushed everyone to get into the field.

In my high school there were literally only two options guys would pick for their university. Either medicine or software dev.

Look how saturated the market is now if everyone gets into the same field then the value drops. There isn't even a reason to bring indians over to the west anymore since it can be done off shore.

Glad I saw right through it.

Dodged an awful career mistake
What path did you choose instead?
 
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So. Comment below.

Elon Musk has taken H1B Indians under his wing.

The left and mainstream hate Elon Musk.

Indians are in the firing line now both by MAGA ethnostate right wing low IQ cels AND the entire normie population.

Tough place to be in. That's like 95% of the US.


I've seen multiple anti-Indian TikToks from liberal normies already. Stay strong my Indian brothers.
Good I have them pajeets those fonts make life harder for the rest of us I hope they get slaughtered fuck then pieces of shit they do my job but ask for half the salary ofc guys gonna hate them
 
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Yes that is true. Elon has been hiring H1B Indians while laying off the locals this is what I was talking about in @enchanted_elixir 's thread but I disagree with OP's stance. The criticism Musk faces from mainstream and the left is more about his personal decisions, leadership style, or controversial stances, rather than the merit of the workers he hires. They don't seem to care about those things so foreseeable future nothing is going to change. Americans are going to keep becoming homeless, curries will keep pouring in. Nothing new.
 
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tbh I'll say it.

software dev is a terrible career to get into. It was ruined by the normies. Pre covid all those microsoft and google employees posting their lavish 100k+ cushy office job really pushed everyone to get into the field.

In my high school there were literally only two options guys would pick for their university. Either medicine or software dev.

Look how saturated the market is now if everyone gets into the same field then the value drops. There isn't even a reason to bring indians over to the west anymore since it can be done off shore.

Glad I saw right through it.

Dodged an awful career mistake
I was unfortunate I got into it for video games but was also smart enough to be able to switch to cyber security before :forcedsmile:

Now I wanna go into project management
 
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Toughest time to be indian
Right when India is supposed to be developing we have increased red tape over the years and the logical solution to leave has its own set of issue
 
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lol not everyone who studied is qualified for a job. There’s a shortage of smart people not retards from shit unis who know nothing
 
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Well still it's just mostly people who wanted to deport all immigrants anyways so still things are fine no problems
 
tbh I'll say it.

software dev is a terrible career to get into. It was ruined by the normies. Pre covid all those microsoft and google employees posting their lavish 100k+ cushy office job really pushed everyone to get into the field.

In my high school there were literally only two options guys would pick for their university. Either medicine or software dev.

Look how saturated the market is now if everyone gets into the same field then the value drops. There isn't even a reason to bring indians over to the west anymore since it can be done off shore.

Glad I saw right through it.

Dodged an awful career mistake
Traditional Software roles are dead that is true but I wouldn't say it's a terrible career. The saturation only exists for entry-level roles for freshers yes it is tough but it is still a rewarding career for people in senior roles with some experience under the belt. There is shift toward automation, artificial intelligence, blockchain, and cloud computing so you need a different skill set from the one you required say 10-15 years ago. Code monkeys are no longer needed. Theh have been replaced by AI. Only 10% of what software devs these days do is coding.
 
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Went with engineering (mechanical) might switch to law don't really enjoy it
Both of these aren't ideal
Every career path sucks, honestly. SWE was a golden ticket like 10 years ago
Law is the same as SWE in that if you want a good job now you need to go to an elite uni
The reason why SWE > Others to me, is
1. No grad school required
2. Much chiller working conditions compared to other jobs
3. Still high pay of course
Yes that is true. Elon has been hiring H1B Indians while laying off the locals this is what I was talking about in @enchanted_elixir 's thread but I disagree with OP's stance. The criticism Musk faces from mainstream and the left is more about his personal decisions, leadership style, or controversial stances, rather than the merit of the workers he hires. They don't seem to care about those things so foreseeable future nothing is going to change. Americans are going to keep becoming homeless, curries will keep pouring in. Nothing new.
There is a lot of seethe for curries. To be fair this is just online, but I try to semi often check up on the cs job/major related communities, a lot of them complain about Indian workers. Or Indian managers in companies only hiring Indians

I really dgaf about that. The bigger problem is competition for top jobs (I can DM you about this)
A lot of these studycels are really stacked, its brutal as fuck.
 
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Both of these aren't ideal
Every career path sucks, honestly. SWE was a golden ticket like 10 years ago
Law is the same as SWE in that if you want a good job now you need to go to an elite uni
The reason why SWE > Others to me, is
1. No grad school required
2. Much chiller working conditions compared to other jobs
3. Still high pay of course

There is a lot of seethe for curries. To be fair this is just online, but I try to semi often check up on the cs job/major related communities, a lot of them complain about Indian workers. Or Indian managers in companies only hiring Indians

I really dgaf about that. The bigger problem is competition for top jobs (I can DM you about this)
A lot of these studycels are really stacked, its brutal as fuck.
honestly just studying to keep my parents happy. Hence why I want to switch to something more enjoyable but is still seen as prestigious.

I am working on a small buisness and honestly it's already earning more then working full time are the resturant. Praying it turns out well.
 
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Yes that is true. Elon has been hiring H1B Indians while laying off the locals this is what I was talking about in @enchanted_elixir 's thread but I disagree with OP's stance. The criticism Musk faces from mainstream is more about his personal decisions, leadership style, or controversial stances, rather than the merit of the workers he hires. They don't seem to care about those things so foreseeable future nothing is going to change. Americans are going to keep becoming homeless, curries will keep pouring in. Nothing new.
I didn't have a stance per-se. I just meant it'd be hard for curries getting caught in the crossfire of hate on all sides for the next few days. I think you are correct.

It will be very very hard for GenZ white guys to get jobs in very technical fields even post-degree. Honestly, who ever said tech and engineering jobs were reserved for white guys anyway? It's not like there's any continuity element?

I cannot think of one set of boomer parents that worked hardcore in STEM, so why do so many GenZ and Millenial White and Black Americans think they're entitled to be hired over, say an Indian American, or even someone scouted straight from India. Competition is brutal and I guess, CEOs of large companies don't want to fill technical positions with anyone who won't be as competent as possible because, you know, they don't want slowdown of growth or failure due to incompetence.


Honestly, if you want a high paid job, you should work on bringing up your strengths in a high paying sector where you already have a huge degree of skill, then hope your Dad has further connections to secure you an initial place. Because the competition is brutal and cutthroat.


What's eerily awkward and a bit blatant is that Musk and Vivek are basically just saying "I'm going to hire the incels to work with me, they are more skilled and higher iq" "I'm going to get Indians on visas to work for me".

Brutal when you step back and look at it. They are actively choosing incels to work for them because they WILL DO MORE, AND BETTER WORK. At least they get compensated well (hopefully).


But it's crazy that this is going to make Chads and Stacies hate competent Indians.

*Brock and Hunter* "Bro your Dad can't get us into Google? Why is everyone following that idiot Elon Musk and hiring capable workers. God these nerds must never leave their basements"

*Stacy and Tiffany* "Oh no our boyfriends are really upset they are not being hired for the top jobs. I mean their grades were average and they are not qualified or specialised in any field. But they are specialised and qualified in our eyes (teehee)". We need to find out what these H1B Indians did to our bfs :("
 
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Both of these aren't ideal
Every career path sucks, honestly. SWE was a golden ticket like 10 years ago
Law is the same as SWE in that if you want a good job now you need to go to an elite uni
The reason why SWE > Others to me, is
1. No grad school required
2. Much chiller working conditions compared to other jobs
3. Still high pay of course

There is a lot of seethe for curries. To be fair this is just online, but I try to semi often check up on the cs job/major related communities, a lot of them complain about Indian workers. Or Indian managers in companies only hiring Indians

I really dgaf about that. The bigger problem is competition for top jobs (I can DM you about this)
A lot of these studycels are really stacked, its brutal as fuck.
Tbf its the same in other fields too. Supply chain disruptions, Jewish Shenanigans have forced companies to reduce operations. We are admist a global recession. Layoffs in all industries are common. Tech layoffs grab headlines but like retail, healthcare and finance are similar. Many major retailers have closed stores financial institutions have cut back on branches and even hospitals are reducing non-essential staff. The job market is brutal as fuck for freshers these days.
 
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In the end, money talks, and the pragmatic businessmen or elite at the top won't care what the peasants at the bottom think. They'll take in as many Indian devs as is required for their companies to excel.
 
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I didn't have a stance per-se. I just meant it'd be hard for curries getting caught in the crossfire of hate on all sides for the next few days. I think you are correct.

It will be very very hard for GenZ white guys to get jobs in very technical fields even post-degree. Honestly, who ever said tech and engineering jobs were reserved for white guys anyway? It's not like there's any continuity element?

I cannot think of one set of boomer parents that worked hardcore in STEM, so why do so many GenZ and Millenial White and Black Americans think they're entitled to be hired over, say an Indian American, or even someone scouted straight from India. Competition is brutal and I guess, CEOs of large companies don't want to fill technical positions with anyone who won't be as competent as possible because, you know, they don't want slowdown of growth or failure due to incompetence.


Honestly, if you want a high paid job, you should work on bringing up your strengths in a high paying sector where you already have a huge degree of skill, then hope your Dad has further connections to secure you an initial place. Because the competition is brutal and cutthroat.


What's eerily awkward and a bit blatant is that Musk and Vivek are basically just saying "I'm going to hire the incels to work with me, they are more skilled and higher iq" "I'm going to get Indians on visas to work for me".

Brutal when you step back and look at it. They are actively choosing incels to work for them because they WILL DO MORE, AND BETTER WORK. At least they get compensated well (hopefully).


But it's crazy that this is going to make Chads and Stacies hate competent Indians.

*Brock and Hunter* "Bro your Dad can't get us into Google? Why is everyone following that idiot Elon Musk and hiring capable workers. God these nerds must never leave their basements"

*Stacy and Tiffany* "Oh no our boyfriends are really upset they are not being hired for the top jobs. I mean their grades were average and they are not qualified or specialised in any field. But they are specialised and qualified in our eyes (teehee)". We need to find out what these H1B Indians did to our bfs :("
When you take any standardized test, you realize how much of a joke 90% of the US population is

I took the SAT and got a near perfect score. I'm not saying this to brag. If you're European or Asian go and look at the Math problems at least: they're a fucking joke. It is extremely easy.
My score was still 99th percentile. The vast majority of people do worse at that. And this isn't even a fully representative sample: this is going to be above the actual average because students who don't plan to go to college, or plan to go to CC or less competitive schools won't take it.
I normally don't like the muh America bad, muh Americans stupid test, but seriously go and look at it, it's a fucking joke.
I go to a top college and I've participated in things like math competitions at school, done well. Almost everyone there was a chink, a lot of Indians too. Whites were the minority, with absolutely no hispanics or blacks.

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Remember when this was a meme? The US team winning IMO, but everyone there being chinese. Go and look up IMO Team USA, it's always majority chink, with maybe 1 white guy and 1 curry. Now think about the relative populations of these ethnic groups, lol.


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Almost everyone there is a chink, lmao

These students, mostly white and black I'm guessing, who complain about not getting jobs are just far below the competition. Trust me, I don't support mass immigration at all, and every single one of my posts will show you that. I'd rather we get less H1B workers. But there definitely is a lack of skill here, academic performance is horrible, and those that do well (mostly chink immigrants and kids of immigrants) are not struggling to get jobs
 
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When you take any standardized test, you realize how much of a joke 90% of the US population is

I took the SAT and got a near perfect score. I'm not saying this to brag. If you're European or Asian go and look at the Math problems at least: they're a fucking joke. It is extremely easy.
My score was still 99th percentile. The vast majority of people do worse at that. And this isn't even a fully representative sample: this is going to be above the actual average because students who don't plan to go to college, or plan to go to CC or less competitive schools won't take it.
I normally don't like the muh America bad, muh Americans stupid test, but seriously go and look at it, it's a fucking joke.
I go to a top college and I've participated in things like math competitions at school, done well. Almost everyone there was a chink, a lot of Indians too. Whites were the minority, with absolutely no hispanics or blacks.

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Remember when this was a meme? The US team winning IMO, but everyone there being chinese. Go and look up IMO Team USA, it's always majority chink, with maybe 1 white guy and 1 curry. Now think about the relative populations of these ethnic groups, lol.


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Almost everyone there is a chink, lmao

These students, mostly white and black I'm guessing, who complain about not getting jobs
are just far below the competition. Trust me, I don't support mass immigration at all, and every single one of my posts will show you that. I'd rather we get less H1B workers. But there definitely is a lack of skill here, academic performance is horrible, and those that do well (mostly chink immigrants and kids of immigrants) are not struggling to get jobs
I am a lazy retard rotter that spends all day wasting time on the internet. I have stumbled my way through life so far
I'm still above 99% of the country (and my own field) while putting no effort in. I'm not some sort of supergenius or the son of Bill Gates. I genuinely do not know how. I'm very well aware that I do not deserve where I am in life, it's just absolutely hilarious that the vast majority of people deserve it even less.
 
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Indians are completely immune to criticism and danger. Some WN could shoot his wife and kid in the head as a warning and he will still stay living at the same house and won't leave.
 
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I am a lazy retard rotter that spends all day wasting time on the internet. I have stumbled my way through life so far
I'm still above 99% of the country (and my own field) while putting no effort in. I'm not some sort of supergenius or the son of Bill Gates. I genuinely do not know how. I'm very well aware that I do not deserve where I am in life, it's just absolutely hilarious that the vast majority of people deserve it even less.
Yeah. You're probably smarter than the majority for sure, and that shows due to you not finding problem solving difficult. But it's insane how many people are *effectively* retarded. Approx 121 million people in the US have a sub 95IQ.
 
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This is a very complex topic and I have friends at companies that have told me about the exploitation of visa workers and/or contractors for cheap labor, and I have also seen it firsthand. There is a balance between cost-cutting and domestic employment. Where the line should be drawn exactly is hard to know--there is an economic/financial balance that needs to be maintained. Truthfully, most H1B workers seem to be almost as competent/educated as US domestic labor, and the biggest challenge tends to be a language barrier and cultural adaptation (if living in the US). Thus, I understand Elon and Vivek's arguments and believe they have some substance and validity.

Despite that, Trump and Vance seem to have an agenda to close off America and make it self-sufficient in all ways (Goods and Services, especially those imported from China). Trump picked Vance as VP for a few reasons, a particularly important one being Vance's understanding of the erosion and offshoring of the manufacturing industries (especially in the Midwest) that caused many Americans to lose their jobs. Vance was an appeal to the dying middle class in a capitalist country currently engaged in destructive profiteering. I think this idea is/will be a better path than the alternative (Kamala and the democratic machine), but there will be some financial growing pains in the short term as MAGA resets employment models.

Musk and Vivek are successful business owners. Ultimately, their goal and desire is to make money. They know that the MAGA agenda will help that goal in some ways, and hurt it in other ways. What I think we're seeing now is both of them attempting to support and reinforce the parts of MAGA they like (out of personal interests) and attack the parts they don't. Especially Musk. To me, he comes across as a full-grown man-child who is (for lack of a better term) president pro-tempore of the economy....as long as he makes Trump look good. The situation we see is exactly what you get when a bunch of egomaniac narcissists are elected to run a country. Again, I am not taking sides here--I think the alternative to MAGA would have been worse overall for the US--but there are some time bombs within the MAGA platform that will go unaddressed until they explode, the first of which explosions we are witnessing right now. And of course, there has to be a scapegoat each time; right now it's Indians, since (unfortunately and sadly) US society tends to place them at the bottom of the social hierarchy.
 
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Traditional Software roles are dead that is true but I wouldn't say it's a terrible career. The saturation only exists for entry-level roles for freshers yes it is tough but it is still a rewarding career for people in senior roles with some experience under the belt. There is shift toward automation, artificial intelligence, blockchain, and cloud computing so you need a different skill set from the one you required say 10-15 years ago. Code monkeys are no longer needed. Theh have been replaced by AI. Only 10% of what software devs these days do is coding.
So the whole learn javascript learn web dev stuff is garbage? What do you recommend learning in free time instead when starting out?
 
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I love how Trump won and racism has to be confronted, they can't hide behind (illegals are illegal) anymore since the legal Hindu invasion is imminent. Vance = Hindu aligned
 
When you take any standardized test, you realize how much of a joke 90% of the US population is

I took the SAT and got a near perfect score. I'm not saying this to brag. If you're European or Asian go and look at the Math problems at least: they're a fucking joke. It is extremely easy.
My score was still 99th percentile. The vast majority of people do worse at that. And this isn't even a fully representative sample: this is going to be above the actual average because students who don't plan to go to college, or plan to go to CC or less competitive schools won't take it.
I normally don't like the muh America bad, muh Americans stupid test, but seriously go and look at it, it's a fucking joke.
I go to a top college and I've participated in things like math competitions at school, done well. Almost everyone there was a chink, a lot of Indians too. Whites were the minority, with absolutely no hispanics or blacks.

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Remember when this was a meme? The US team winning IMO, but everyone there being chinese. Go and look up IMO Team USA, it's always majority chink, with maybe 1 white guy and 1 curry. Now think about the relative populations of these ethnic groups, lol.


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Almost everyone there is a chink, lmao

These students, mostly white and black I'm guessing, who complain about not getting jobs are just far below the competition. Trust me, I don't support mass immigration at all, and every single one of my posts will show you that. I'd rather we get less H1B workers. But there definitely is a lack of skill here, academic performance is horrible, and those that do well (mostly chink immigrants and kids of immigrants) are not struggling to get jobs
Lazy cumskins like you are the issue. Noone cares about your test taking ability we need you to work more hours xD
 
This is a very complex topic and I have friends at companies that have told me about the exploitation of visa workers and/or contractors for cheap labor, and I have also seen it firsthand. There is a balance between cost-cutting and domestic employment. Where the line should be drawn exactly is hard to know--there is an economic/financial balance that needs to be maintained. Truthfully, most H1B workers seem to be almost as competent/educated as US domestic labor, and the biggest challenge tends to be a language barrier and cultural adaptation (if living in the US). Thus, I understand Elon and Vivek's arguments and believe they have some substance and validity.

Despite that, Trump and Vance seem to have an agenda to close off America and make it self-sufficient in all ways (Goods and Services, especially those imported from China). Trump picked Vance as VP for a few reasons, a particularly important one being Vance's understanding of the erosion and offshoring of the manufacturing industries (especially in the Midwest) that caused many Americans to lose their jobs. Vance was an appeal to the dying middle class in a capitalist country currently engaged in destructive profiteering. I think this idea is/will be a better path than the alternative (Kamala and the democratic machine), but there will be some financial growing pains in the short term as MAGA resets employment models.

Musk and Vivek are successful business owners. Ultimately, their goal and desire is to make money. They know that the MAGA agenda will help that goal in some ways, and hurt it in other ways. What I think we're seeing now is both of them attempting to support and reinforce the parts of MAGA they like (out of personal interests) and attack the parts they don't. Especially Musk. To me, he comes across as a full-grown man-child who is (for lack of a better term) president pro-tempore of the economy....as long as he makes Trump look good. The situation we see is exactly what you get when a bunch of egomaniac narcissists are elected to run a country. Again, I am not taking sides here--I think the alternative to MAGA would have been worse overall for the US--but there are some time bombs within the MAGA platform that will go unaddressed until they explode, the first of which explosions we are witnessing right now. And of course, there has to be a scapegoat each time; right now it's Indians, since (unfortunately and sadly) US society tends to place them at the bottom of the social hierarchy.
I agree with you. Spot on in my opinion.

Again, it's Musk and Vivek who will be unscathed while a bunch of hate will be misfired at Indian techies (a lot of who are kind hearted). I know a few of them and work/worked in that field too.

Ultimately business owners and managers will always do what's best for themselves, incentive-wise, and they've much more experience at covering up incentives than the average Joe has at detecting them veiling incentives. Musk is a step beyond the typical incentive-driven corporate boss.

He intentionally aligned with "Indians" knowing he could control the outcome. And he did control the outcome. Indians had no consent in being aligned overnight with Musk. But now it has happened, all through the X platform. So now right and left wingers both suddenly dislike Tech-bro Indians.

Right wing Indian hate:
Left wing Indian hate:

Elon strategically aligning with Indians (suddenly), knowing most of the public arena already hates him
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It's not a lie that Musk is a super-genius. But I think he understands the weight behind incentives and strategic alignment and timing FAR BETTER than pretty much anyone else on earth (that includes all politicians).
 
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tbh I'll say it.

software dev is a terrible career to get into. It was ruined by the normies. Pre covid all those microsoft and google employees posting their lavish 100k+ cushy office job really pushed everyone to get into the field.

In my high school there were literally only two options guys would pick for their university. Either medicine or software dev.

Look how saturated the market is now if everyone gets into the same field then the value drops. There isn't even a reason to bring indians over to the west anymore since it can be done off shore.

Glad I saw right through it.

Dodged an awful career mistake
I almost pursued it at the start of the year but luckily I quit early
 
I want to work in AI so I'm giving CS 1 final year of full effort, but if that doesn't work I'm switching to Nursing JFL
 
I didn't have a stance per-se. I just meant it'd be hard for curries getting caught in the crossfire of hate on all sides for the next few days. I think you are correct.

It will be very very hard for GenZ white guys to get jobs in very technical fields even post-degree. Honestly, who ever said tech and engineering jobs were reserved for white guys anyway? It's not like there's any continuity element?

I cannot think of one set of boomer parents that worked hardcore in STEM, so why do so many GenZ and Millenial White and Black Americans think they're entitled to be hired over, say an Indian American, or even someone scouted straight from India. Competition is brutal and I guess, CEOs of large companies don't want to fill technical positions with anyone who won't be as competent as possible because, you know, they don't want slowdown of growth or failure due to incompetence.


Honestly, if you want a high paid job, you should work on bringing up your strengths in a high paying sector where you already have a huge degree of skill, then hope your Dad has further connections to secure you an initial place. Because the competition is brutal and cutthroat.


What's eerily awkward and a bit blatant is that Musk and Vivek are basically just saying "I'm going to hire the incels to work with me, they are more skilled and higher iq" "I'm going to get Indians on visas to work for me".

Brutal when you step back and look at it. They are actively choosing incels to work for them because they WILL DO MORE, AND BETTER WORK. At least they get compensated well (hopefully).


But it's crazy that this is going to make Chads and Stacies hate competent Indians.

*Brock and Hunter* "Bro your Dad can't get us into Google? Why is everyone following that idiot Elon Musk and hiring capable workers. God these nerds must never leave their basements"

*Stacy and Tiffany* "Oh no our boyfriends are really upset they are not being hired for the top jobs. I mean their grades were average and they are not qualified or specialised in any field. But they are specialised and qualified in our eyes (teehee)". We need to find out what these H1B Indians did to our bfs :("
Cope jeet 😂 these Indians aren’t smarter, they are just willing to do more work for less and have lower standards of life, because even being overworked in America is better than living in Mumbai slums.
 
Elon is high IQ. It's all set up
 
I agree with you. Spot on in my opinion.

Again, it's Musk and Vivek who will be unscathed while a bunch of hate will be misfired at Indian techies (a lot of who are kind hearted). I know a few of them and work/worked in that field too.

Ultimately business owners and managers will always do what's best for themselves, incentive-wise, and they've much more experience at covering up incentives than the average Joe has at detecting them veiling incentives. Musk is a step beyond the typical incentive-driven corporate boss.
Yep pretty much. Another example of the IQ/Awareness pill. This chart is a fairly humorous (somewhat accurate) depiction:
Iq curve meme

Except Elon truly is an exception as you said. Both he and Vivek are. If I had to guess, both are 145+ IQ and highly narcissistic/egocentric. This allows them to fool all the average Joes by painting their actions and stances in an altruistic light.
He intentionally aligned with "Indians" knowing he could control the outcome. And he did control the outcome. Indians had no consent in being aligned overnight with Musk. But now it has happened, all through the X platform. So now right and left wingers both suddenly dislike Tech-bro Indians.

Right wing Indian hate:
Left wing Indian hate:

Elon strategically aligning with Indians (suddenly), knowing most of the public arena already hates him
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It's not a lie that Musk is a super-genius. But I think he understands the weight behind incentives and strategic alignment and timing FAR BETTER than pretty much anyone else on earth (that includes all politicians).

Elon is an interesting case study. The guy literally bought one of the biggest social media platforms in the world and transformed it in ways that suited his liking. Who else could do something like that? While I appreciate Musk's ideas on free speech and preventing censorship, it's laughable how people have shown Elon will delete/nuke accounts that challenge his ideas or pose a threat to him. He basically created his own little dictatorship online. Then, he took a MASSIVE bet on MAGA and it paid off, and his net worth almost DOUBLED as a result. He is now in a league of his own. As you said, it's less of Musk being a super-genius and more the fact that he possesses great intuitive faculties and the necessary amount of narcissistic/sociopathic/egocentric tendencies required to take the massive strategic gambles generated by those faculties.

I think Musk's corruption and true morals are exposed in his understanding of Space, advanced technology, and extraterrestrials. Musk has remained completely quiet about the drone situation (New Jersey, Arizona, UK, etc) and has repeatedly denied the existence of extraterrestrials over the last decade. I find it extraordinarily hard to believe Musk is unaware of extraterrestrials and the advanced/reverse-engineered alien technology the US government possesses (things like E&M propulsion systems, weaponized space platforms, particle beams, etc). I think Musk continues to deny it because it poses a direct threat to his current businesses, and if that technology were to be released, all of his companies would lose most of their value. It will be interesting to see what happens over the next two years since Trump has promised to release the JFK files, and that means the CIA's involvement in JFK's assassination will finally come to light. Of course, that involvement is due to monetary incentives (the mafia), but more importantly JFK's threat to the CIA to declassify some of the alien technology the CIA had. If this happens, it will throw a massive wrench into Elon's plans. I am sure Elon is aware of this, but I am unsure whether he will be able to convince Trump of his interests. What I believe to be the most likely outcome is Trump releasing the files, but withholding the parts referencing extraterrestrial life. However, disclosure is inevitable within this second Trump term due to a few other reasons--the main one being the global nuclear threat we face, specifically Iran and the Middle East. All it takes is one Nuke to go off in the wrong place and shit will go south REAL fast as Russia, the US/NATO, and China are all pulled in. I think this will probably happen within the next four years, and that will force the hands of our non-human visitors to reveal themselves.
 
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