Orbital decompression - is the botch chance inflated?

[Oesteogenesis]

Most people who get orbital decompression usually have Graves’ disease which would cause the eyes to bulge out like crazy, cant this make the surgery significantly more difficult to do especially with the soft tissue and bone you have to get rid of since the amount is more within these patients with Graves’ disease, does that mean the likely hood on doing this on someone who mild or moderate bulging eyes due to e.g pheno or genetics make it so theres less of a botch rate since its 15-20%.

Only regular person ive seen take it snd get botched publicly is frank, although he did have 4 surgeries at the same time and his eye are was horrible before and arguably better now, only risks i feel that would apply for everyone is vision issues which just is a universal risk with this surgery like frank experienced.

Need high iq people who know alot about surgery on this

 

[habeebullah]

Most people who get orbital decompression usually have Graves’ disease which would cause the eyes to bulge out like crazy, cant this make the surgery significantly more difficult to do especially with the soft tissue and bone you have to get rid of since the amount is more within these patients with Graves’ disease, does that mean the likely hood on doing this on someone who mild or moderate bulging eyes due to e.g pheno or genetics make it so theres less of a botch rate since its 15-20%.

Only regular person ive seen take it snd get botched publicly is frank, although he did have 4 surgeries at the same time and his eye are was horrible before and arguably better now, only risks i feel that would apply for everyone is vision issues which just is a universal risk with this surgery like frank experienced.

Need high iq people who know alot about surgery on this

I thought he got botched from canthoplasty? Or am I tweaking

 

[Oesteogenesis]

I thought he got botched from canthoplasty? Or am I tweaking

No, orbital decompression was the main one that caused his vision and appearance issues, very dumb of him to get all 4 at once especially with the shitty base he has

 

[habeebullah]

Most people who get orbital decompression usually have Graves’ disease which would cause the eyes to bulge out like crazy, cant this make the surgery significantly more difficult to do especially with the soft tissue and bone you have to get rid of since the amount is more within these patients with Graves’ disease, does that mean the likely hood on doing this on someone who mild or moderate bulging eyes due to e.g pheno or genetics make it so theres less of a botch rate since its 15-20%.

Only regular person ive seen take it snd get botched publicly is frank, although he did have 4 surgeries at the same time and his eye are was horrible before and arguably better now, only risks i feel that would apply for everyone is vision issues which just is a universal risk with this surgery like frank experienced.

Need high iq people who know alot about surgery on this

Anyways to answer your question, Yeah, niggas with Graves' disease have to get a more aggressive decompression which is more difficult and comes with higher risks and complications than someone who just has moderately protruding eyes (bug eyes) and doesn't need as much of a decompression.

For mild/moderate bulging, fat-predominant or limited decompressions can have lower complication rates (around 2% which isn't too bad imo)

The 15–20% botch rate is not for all cases, just for ones for people with Graves' disease.

 

[dnrwarrior11]

it was just the amount of walls that get decompressed that can determine if u get botched or not. i believe frank got nearly all of them or all of them decompressed, so that is the reason why. if he had only gotten one his situation wouldve probably turned out a lot different.

 

[Oesteogenesis]

Anyways to answer your question, Yeah, niggas with Graves' disease have to get a more aggressive decompression which is more difficult and comes with higher risks and complications than someone who just has moderately protruding eyes (bug eyes) and doesn't need as much of a decompression.

For mild/moderate bulging, fat-predominant or limited decompressions can have lower complication rates (around 2% which isn't too bad imo)

The 15–20% botch rate is not for all cases, just for ones for people with Graves' disease.

Amazing high iq reply, do you have the source for the 2% complication rate on normal individuals?

 

[habeebullah]

Thanks bhai
Yeah here's the study: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaophthalmology/fullarticle/417400

Just skip to the conclusion

Amazing high iq reply, do you have the source for the 2% complication rate on normal individuals?

 

[Oesteogenesis]

Thanks bhai
Yeah here's the study: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaophthalmology/fullarticle/417400

Just skip to the conclusion

Bet thanks ill give it a read

 

[habeebullah]

Bet thanks ill give it a read

No problem I hope u find what you're looking for

 

[aids]

it was just the amount of walls that get decompressed that can determine if u get botched or not. i believe frank got nearly all of them or all of them decompressed, so that is the reason why. if he had only gotten one his situation wouldve probably turned out a lot different.

Rather he wanted infras, supras, and cantho at the same time.

 

[Eno]

most people without graves disease just need orbital implants, not orbital decompression

 

[habeebullah]

most people without graves disease just need orbital implants, not orbital decompression

What about for individuals who actually have prominent eyeballs? Like I for example have recessed infras and supras which exaggerates it, but my eyeball itself is more forward set than ideal.

 

[Eno]

What about for individuals who actually have prominent eyeballs? Like I for example have recessed infras and supras which exaggerates it, but my eyeball itself is more forward set than ideal.

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[habeebullah]

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[Eno]

u do not need orbital decompression

 

[nuisance]

because most nigas have weak orbitals, not bulging eyes as seen in garves

 

[Oesteogenesis]

Rather he wanted infras, supras, and cantho at the same time.

Probably the most retarded hardmaxxer ive ever seen


if he had enough flaws he wouldve done OBO and LF1 at the same time not caring about the risks