Ortho doesn't want to give me anything for my shitty maxilla and mandible until I'm 18 for lefort 1

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How can I convince her to give me a three point mse or sum? I asked for that and she said my maxilla is wide enough but I don't need any forward growth unless it hurts my breathing (I do have breathing issues but I fucked up saying it's 50% breathing 50% looks for some autist reason) She said I need to be inspected for trouble sleeping because of breathing and then get lefort 1 after my bones finish developing. I really need help guys I've already accepted the fact that I can't slay until I'm old enough for that n other shit (also she told me to stop looking at internet stuff, and got kinda serious about it she probably knows about blackpill and is a major bluepill but I think I can convince her if you guys help me find a good device or sum and convince my mom)
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change ortho

bluepilled orthos are so fucking retarded

lefort 1 or ldar
 
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yea n my dad got the same thing but I got it worse bc quarantine fucked up my posture I'm just now fixing it
 
Not ideal? Maybe. Shitty? No.
If you genuinely have breathing issues as stated then just get "inspected for trouble sleeping" so you can actually get the work you need done.
 
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Not ideal? Maybe. Shitty? No.
If you genuinely have breathing issues as stated then just get 'inspected for trouble sleeping' so you can actually get the work you need done.
It's really bad thats just the camera n frauding. And it really is shitty my dad has it, its a genetic disposition my ortho told me. How can I sleepfraud to potentially get a forward growth device? I'm going turkeymaxxing at 19 anyway so fuck my orthos idea jfl
 
It's really bad thats just the camera n frauding. And it really is shitty my dad has it, its a genetic disposition my ortho told me. How can I sleepfraud to potentially get a forward growth device? I'm going turkeymaxxing at 19 anyway so fuck my orthos idea jfl
Then post something that is candid. Frauding on a forum where the entire point is to become better looking just leads to inaccurate recommendations. Fraud in real life, not here.

Though I understand what you mean, the term genetic predisposition is not relevant here, that is more regarding how susceptible you are to diseases, not facial development. If the orthodontist told you that, they're a retard.

As aforementioned, if you actually have problems breathing then you shouldn't need to fraud breathing problems. You're contradicting yourself here which makes it hard to give you advice man.
 
I fucked up saying it's 50% breathing 50% looks for some autist reason)
trying to work with a functional purist ortho by lying and pretending you want the treatment for functional reasons is a mistake from the very beginning
 
Then post something that is candid. Frauding on a forum where the entire point is to become better looking just leads to inaccurate recommendations. Fraud in real life, not here.

Though I understand what you mean, the term genetic predisposition is not relevant here, that is more regarding how susceptible you are to diseases, not facial development. If the orthodontist told you that, they're a retard.

As aforementioned, if you actually have problems breathing then you shouldn't need to fraud breathing problems. You're contradicting yourself here which makes it hard to give you advice man.
The fraudings not bad its just mewing tbh cuz my bf% is kinda high so you can actually see my jaw fully idk hopefully they get me on sum early instead of lefort
 
The fraudings not bad its just mewing tbh cuz my bf% is kinda high so you can actually see my jaw fully idk hopefully they get me on sum early instead of lefort
Orthodontic treatment is not going to advance your maxilla at your age.
 
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trying to work with a functional purist ortho by lying and pretending you want the treatment for functional reasons is a mistake from the very beginning
Why? I just want to look better, whats the difference of that rater than telling a bp ortho I want it to look better. I clearly have bad forward growth but my ortho says Its fine as long as theres no breathing problems
 
Orthodontic treatment is not going to advance your maxilla at your age.
The fuck am I supposed to do then? Rot until I'm 18?? I've literally never even had a talking stage bc they're disgusted of my recession
 
because their mindset is fundamentally incompatible with yours, and will push you into undesirable treatments at every opportunity - with the worst case being the result being functional improvement, but 0 looks improvement

if said ortho is "good" (aka experienced & has good testimonials) and/or has a good price, you can play this game of pretending you are a functional patient - it's you who's taking the risk after all

from the way you write you don't seem to have sufficient knowledge to do this imo
clearly have bad forward growth but my ortho
ortho is not able to help you with forward growth
 
The fuck am I supposed to do then? Rot until I'm 18?? I've literally never even had a talking stage bc they're disgusted of my recession
Dude, I told you, if you actually have breathing issues then get the fucking sleep study and then get the surgery under insurance.
 
Dude, I told you, if you actually have breathing issues then get the fucking sleep study and then get the surgery under insurance.
But I can't get ituntil I'm finished developing right??
 
because their mindset is fundamentally incompatible with yours, and will push you into undesirable treatments at every opportunity - with the worst case being the result being functional improvement, but 0 looks improvement

if said ortho is "good" (aka experienced & has good testimonials) and/or has a good price, you can play this game of pretending you are a functional patient - it's you who's taking the risk after all

from the way you write you don't seem to have sufficient knowledge to do this imo

ortho is not able to help you with forward growth
The fucks the risk? It's literally giving me better forward growth?? And yea my orthos pretty good I can dm you if you wanna see who
 

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