People who compare islamic and christian predators are retarded

[Mavueis]

Genuinely bottom of the barrel ignorance
Paedophilia in islam is encouraged by mohammed who raped a little kid
People who are paedophiles and also happen to call themselves christian act out of their own depravity

in other words
the bible doesn't tell u to be a paedophile while the qurran does. u cannot compare instances of the two

 

[annenisikeyim]

Genuinely bottom of the barrel ignorance
Paedophilia in islam is encouraged by mohammed who raped a little kid
People who are paedophiles and also happen to call themselves christian act out of their own depravity

in other words
the bible doesn't tell u to be a paedophile while the qurran does. u cannot compare instances of the two

source pls retard nigga talking to talk atp

 

[Mavueis]

source pls retard nigga talking to talk atp

Sahih al-Bukhari 5134

Hope this helps you slobbermouthed inbred

that the Prophet (ﷺ) married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old.

If you think a 9 yearold can give consent then you're an inbred paedophile too JFL

 

[abzz!]

Genuinely bottom of the barrel ignorance
Paedophilia in islam is encouraged by mohammed who raped a little kid
People who are paedophiles and also happen to call themselves christian act out of their own depravity

in other words
the bible doesn't tell u to be a paedophile while the qurran does. u cannot compare instances of the two

you're more retarded than them because this type of thread has been made multiple fucking times before you. plus, you are so clearly uneducated, it's hilarious

 

[Mavueis]

you're more retarded than them because this type of thread has been made multiple fucking times before you. plus, you are so clearly uneducated, it's hilarious

smartest muslim JFL

U cant refute it or defend your paedohpile prophet that you worship because your family is inbred

Explain why mohammed had the divine right to rape a little baby: No

"Nooo man u uneducated on my desert warlord rapist storytale": W defence highest IQ muslim

 

[abzz!]

smartest muslim JFL

U cant refute it or defend your paedohpile prophet that you worship because your family is inbred

Explain why mohammed had the divine right to rape a little baby: No

"Nooo man u uneducated on my desert warlord rapist storytale": W defence highest IQ muslim

"raped a little baby" jfl

rape requires coercion, no sources claim sexual violence, she became a well respected scholar (smarter than you for the record), and it was a historical norm lmao. your ancestors probably got married shortly after puberty. don't project your 21st century standards onto people in the 7th century also, you're forgetting that the bible doesn't even condemn this!! please educate yourself boy

 

[lash_hh]

smartest muslim JFL

U cant refute it or defend your paedohpile prophet that you worship because your family is inbred

Explain why mohammed had the divine right to rape a little baby: No

"Nooo man u uneducated on my desert warlord rapist storytale": W defence highest IQ muslim

600 vs 2025 jfl

 

[Mavueis]

"raped a little baby" jfl

rape requires coercion, no sources claim sexual violence, she became a well respected scholar (smarter than you for the record), and it was a historical norm lmao. your ancestors probably got married shortly after puberty. don't project your 21st century standards onto people in the 7th century also, you're forgetting that the bible doesn't even condemn this!! please educate yourself boy

So you think a 9 yearold can give consent. Got it.

 

[abzz!]

So you think a 9 yearold can give consent. Got it.

if intellectually competent yes. the same way a 9 year old can consent to an abortion without parental permission if deemed competent in the UK, just an example.

 

[Centurion_Hunter]

Jfl at coping with muh pedo this pedo that when most normies of your nationality would throw yall under the bus for a chad

 

[Centurion_Hunter]

if intellectually competent yes. the same way a 9 year old can consent

nigga a 9 year old isnt mentally competent esp if shes a foid

 

[GonorrhoeaGobbler]

christian being pedos is a meme spread by comedians in the earmy 20s, you have way more chances of being assaulted in a school or in a cynagog

Metzitzah B'peh

 

[Deleted member 291098]

The Virgin Mary was 7 when was pregnant with the original faggot

 

[Mavueis]

The Virgin Mary was 7 when was pregnant with the original faggot

Average 30 iq muslim

"islam allowed to be bad because christianyty bad "

 

[SplashJuice]

Wasn't Muhammad's first wife 15 years older than him?

 

[Mavueis]

Wasn't Muhammad's first wife 15 years older than him?

Maybe. Victim to victimizer pipeline. Get raped, to committing rapes. JFL.

 

[dumb]

Wasn't Muhammad's first wife 15 years older than him?

yea JFL at the religion thinking some short fat dwarf prejac issues is a prophet, guy literally went around towns raping and having gangbangs with their women like what

source: https://dn710003.ca.archive.org/0/items/dlopf/The People Vs Muhammad.pdf
newsflash no muslim will read it but instead will listen to whatever their imam says

 

[reptiles]

Genuinely bottom of the barrel ignorance
Paedophilia in islam is encouraged by mohammed who raped a little kid
People who are paedophiles and also happen to call themselves christian act out of their own depravity

in other words
the bible doesn't tell u to be a paedophile while the qurran does. u cannot compare instances of the two

Screw Islam

 

[tarkdriad33]

Shut up you jew, you guys suck on circumcized penises of little boys JFL

 

[tarkdriad33]

Shut up you jew, you guys suck on circumcized penises of little boys JFL

Fax

 

[silently_said]

Well Christianity doesn't explicitly forbid pedophilia no?

 

[youravgarabltn]

Well Christianity doesn't explicitly forbid pedophilia no?

Literally

 

[youravgarabltn]

Sahih al-Bukhari 5134

Hope this helps you slobbermouthed inbred

that the Prophet (ﷺ) married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old.

If you think a 9 yearold can give consent then you're an inbred paedophile too JFL

Ur so stupid

 

[Deleted member 271577]

Genuinely bottom of the barrel ignorance
Paedophilia in islam is encouraged by mohammed who raped a little kid
People who are paedophiles and also happen to call themselves christian act out of their own depravity

in other words
the bible doesn't tell u to be a paedophile while the qurran does. u cannot compare instances of the two

devastating iq
at the time in saudi arabia, age was recorded after puberty. realistically she was above 18, no where in the quran does it tell u to be a pedophile.
do ur research

 

[Mavueis]

devastating iq
at the time in saudi arabia, age was recorded after puberty. realistically she was above 18, no where in the quran does it tell u to be a pedophile.
do ur research

Sahih al-Bukhari 5134

that the Prophet (ﷺ) married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old.

Typical muslim defense:

if u claim she was 18 ur actively contradicting ur holy qurran

average muslim JFL

 

[Anker]

Well Christianity doesn't explicitly forbid pedophilia no?

The Didache does, which is used by both the Orthodox and the Catholic Chruch.

 

[bakpaokukus]

21st century niggas seething and judging a custom from some desert thousand years ago with modern day morality

 

[Mavueis]

21st century niggas seething and judging a custom from some desert thousand years ago with modern day morality

This is the lowest IQ response I think I've ever read LOL

yeah normally nobody should give a fuck because it's a custom from some desert thousands of years ago but this person is worshipped and looked up to We have millions of people worshipping a Paedophile, if u cant recognise the adverse effects this has on western civilization then you might be fucking retarded

When ur book is so inaccurate and ur god is so fake ur only defence to "The greatest role model everyone should base their lives around" (ie: Mohammed) raping a little child is "broo it was thousands of yrs ago"

 

[gintoki sataka]

islam is for retards

 

[bakpaokukus]

yeah normally nobody should give a fuck because it's a custom from some desert thousands of years ago but this person is worshipped and looked up to We have millions of people worshipping a Paedophile, if u cant recognise the adverse effects this has on western civilization then you might be fucking retarded

I'm not saying that's not fucked up btw

but still we can't deny that Muhammad was a Chaddam with maxxed charisma. dude pretty much did some terrible shit, had JB pussy, convinced half of the world, and has 2b people ready to die for him right now. honestly mirin the high IQ and charisma

 

[Deleted member 271577]

Sahih al-Bukhari 5134

that the Prophet (ﷺ) married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old.

Typical muslim defense:

if u claim she was 18 ur actively contradicting ur holy qurran

average muslim JFL

Sahib al Bukhari isn’t a part of the Quran it’s a separate book of the prophets actions
Like I said, they calculated age after puberty. There was also evidence like Aisha’s sisters age to prove she was older, and dates like the Hijra.

 

[supergoat972]

Who cares?

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

The Virgin Mary was 7 when was pregnant with the original faggot

lol not true she was between 16-20

Nothing says her age though

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

Well Christianity doesn't explicitly forbid pedophilia no?

It does lol

Besides shits implied anyways. You can’t find a single prophet or anywhere in Christianity saying “yeah it’s ok to fuck kids” or anybody doing that shit

Jewish men got married at 20 to 14-16 year old girls though but comparing a 14-16 yr old with an 9 year old is rediculous and you know it but it’s funny when idiots make exceptions and excuse subhuman behaviour from other beliefs and systems but Christianity is always held to different standards I mean if Christianity had something like this you lot would never stfu about it but it dorsnt lol

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

Sahib al Bukhari isn’t a part of the Quran it’s a separate book of the prophets actions
Like I said, they calculated age after puberty. There was also evidence like Aisha’s sisters age to prove she was older, and dates like the Hijra.

Even your top scholars ibn Hajr and other scholars al state she was a kid then in your Quran I think sura 4:24 it speaks about being able to slay kids and it was revealed after a man came to Mohammed asking “What about if my wife hasn’t menstruated because of her age and she hasn’t had her period yet because her age is such that she is too young to menstruate” sura 65:4


Wha does that say what does that tell you

Yeah your RELGION allows pedophelia dunno who Muslims cope so hard about this. Like go be a Muslim but to lie about your RELGION is so fucking pathetic your prophet was a pedophile, your book endorses it both Hadith and Quran

Like go be a Muslim that’s fine but you have to swalllow the blackpill thag your prophet was a dirty fucking pedo and your god is a endorser of pedophelia

 

[JasGews69x]

Least retardedgod eater

Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known a man by sleeping with him. But all the young girls who have not known a man by sleeping with him, keep alive for yourselves.

Kill the women and boys - take the young virgin girls to rape (to play football)

Numbers 31:17-18​

Your god Yeshua impregnated his mother mary who was 12 years old

 

[comebotd]

Genuinely bottom of the barrel ignorance
Paedophilia in islam is encouraged by mohammed who raped a little kid
People who are paedophiles and also happen to call themselves christian act out of their own depravity

in other words
the bible doesn't tell u to be a paedophile while the qurran does. u cannot compare instances of the two

Tera greycel thinks he is a top tier religious rage baiter now. And we dam well you weren't lurking you giga greycel.

 

[comebotd]

and god ain't real buddy

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

Least retardedgod eater

Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known a man by sleeping with him. But all the young girls who have not known a man by sleeping with him, keep alive for yourselves.

Kill the women and boys - take the young virgin girls to rape (to play football)

Numbers 31:17-18​

Your god Yeshua impregnated his mother mary who was 12 years old

I’ve debunked this before with you and you know this

Don’t try parroting failed points brah your better then this

Mary was 16-20 years of age though but that’s besides the point.

being kept alive doesn’t mean sexual exploitation it’s because they never took part in the Baal Peor cultic acts (prostitution was one of the remnants of tha cult ) so basically it means these girls never did that fucked up shit yet

Captive women were often integrated into households, sometimes as servants, sometimes as wives with legal protections (cf. Deuteronomy 21:10–14). Rape is explicitly condemned in Mosaic Law (Deut 22:25–27). A man could not simply abuse a captive woman without consequence.

But you already know this as I have pointed this out to you like 7 months ago…. So why do you insist on bringing up silly points?


Also Muslims please you guys need to learn that 2QuoQwe doesn’t remove your prophets actions and what your book says if what you said were true (it isn’t but let’s entertain it) all that will mean is both relgions or all 3 I guess cos that’s OT so Jewish, are pedophile religions. So you don’t escape the issue of pedophelia all you have done is just say others are jsut as bad as you which still leaves you in the hot seat

Why don’t Muslims understand this?

 

[annenisikeyim]

Sahih al-Bukhari 5134

Hope this helps you slobbermouthed inbred

that the Prophet (ﷺ) married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old.

If you think a 9 yearold can give consent then you're an inbred paedophile too JFL

fuck bukhari nigga i do not care hadiths or stuff

 

[Deleted member 271577]

Even your top scholars ibn Hajr and other scholars al state she was a kid then in your Quran I think sura 4:24 it speaks about being able to slay kids and it was revealed after a man came to Mohammed asking “What about if my wife hasn’t menstruated because of her age and she hasn’t had her period yet because her age is such that she is too young to menstruate” sura 65:4


Wha does that say what does that tell you

Yeah your RELGION allows pedophelia dunno who Muslims cope so hard about this. Like go be a Muslim but to lie about your RELGION is so fucking pathetic your prophet was a pedophile, your book endorses it both Hadith and Quran

Like go be a Muslim that’s fine but you have to swalllow the blackpill thag your prophet was a dirty fucking pedo and your god is a endorser of pedophelia

why are we applying today's standards with past times?
yes, its true, the hadiths say that she was 6, but age was not something people kept track of at the time, there was a chance she didnt know her own age properly. even if she was really 6, u cant apply todays standards to something that happens 1400 years ago, it was very recent when it became illegal to marry minors, so it wouldnt be considered wrong or pediphillia at that time
aisha also never complained about the prophet cause she was treated well and whatnot but wtv

4:24 dosent say anything about being able to slay kids
"Also ˹forbidden are˺ married women—except ˹female˺ captives in your possession.1 This is Allah’s commandment to you. Lawful to you are all beyond these—as long as you seek them with your wealth in a legal marriage, not in fornication. Give those you have consummated marriage with their due dowries. It is permissible to be mutually gracious regarding the set dowry. Surely Allah is All-Knowing, All-Wise."
means that marriage is only lawful with unmarried women through a proper marriage contract and dowry, not through fornication, and that dowry rules can be adjusted by mutual agreement. The phrase about captives refers to a specific historical context of war in early Islam, where previous marriages were considered annulled, and it is not a general or timeless encouragement but a regulated rule within that context.

 

[larpslayer1488]

Genuinely bottom of the barrel ignorance
Paedophilia in islam is encouraged by mohammed who raped a little kid
People who are paedophiles and also happen to call themselves christian act out of their own depravity

in other words
the bible doesn't tell u to be a paedophile while the qurran does. u cannot compare instances of the two

I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS, Islamists are so ignorant the gymnastics and the excuses they bring is absolutely pathetic.

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

why are we applying today's standards with past times?
yes, its true, the hadiths say that she was 6, but age was not something people kept track of at the time, there was a chance she didnt know her own age properly. even if she was really 6, u cant apply todays standards to something that happens 1400 years ago, it was very recent when it became illegal to marry minors, so it wouldnt be considered wrong or pediphillia at that time
aisha also never complained about the prophet cause she was treated well and whatnot but wtv

4:24 dosent say anything about being able to slay kids
"Also ˹forbidden are˺ married women—except ˹female˺ captives in your possession.1 This is Allah’s commandment to you. Lawful to you are all beyond these—as long as you seek them with your wealth in a legal marriage, not in fornication. Give those you have consummated marriage with their due dowries. It is permissible to be mutually gracious regarding the set dowry. Surely Allah is All-Knowing, All-Wise."
means that marriage is only lawful with unmarried women through a proper marriage contract and dowry, not through fornication, and that dowry rules can be adjusted by mutual agreement. The phrase about captives refers to a specific historical context of war in early Islam, where previous marriages were considered annulled, and it is not a general or timeless encouragement but a regulated rule within that context.

Yes we are comparing it because your book claims to be a book for all time and claims to be the verbatim word of god which never changes so yes whatever your book your prophet and your Hadiths agree on mean that if is not to be judged in a vacuum but for all time. Don’t act retarded there’s a Quran verse maybe 65:4? That’s why speaks about the fucking kids thing and if you Google why it was revealed it was because a man came to Mohammed asking what about his wife who HASNT MENSTRATED DUE TO BEING TOO YOUNG TO DO SO. So don’t try playing dumb. And anyways sura 4 proves the degeneracy of Shitslam allowing slavery and sex captives of war. Something even the Bronze Age Israelites weren’t allowed to
Do (deut 21-22

Your religions extremly rigid which provides 0 rook for human agency when it comes to persists of realising if thins are wrong. That’s why your religion allows for incest (cousin marrige) and other degenerate things like child fucking both of which are scientifically proven to cause harmful effects on children and the inbreds born from the union. Your religion allows this sanctifies this so yes Judjing that by today’s standards and standards back then is allowed acceptable and fair because your religion says to do so

My religion doesn’t work by such rigid systems and virtue Ethics system has it such that our moral law must always be upheld to moral standards which ofc change as humanity advances so we may not had known about incest causing the brutal things it does today but now we do and thus in our system it is wrong and not allowed to be done if you do it your a sinner end of discussion. That fluidity that room that God gave Christian’s to be able to grow adapt and learn is what separates us from you

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS, Islamists are so ignorant the gymnastics and the excuses they bring is absolutely pathetic.

It’s a death cult for low IQs I enjoy and like it tbh

Because as long as your not Muslim your superior to 2 billion people (that’s how many Muslims exist) only low IQs fall for that religion

 

[Deleted member 271577]

Yes we are comparing it because your book claims to be a book for all time and claims to be the verbatim word of god which never changes so yes whatever your book your prophet and your Hadiths agree on mean that if is not to be judged in a vacuum but for all time. Don’t act retarded there’s a Quran verse maybe 65:4? That’s why speaks about the fucking kids thing and if you Google why it was revealed it was because a man came to Mohammed asking what about his wife who HASNT MENSTRATED DUE TO BEING TOO YOUNG TO DO SO. So don’t try playing dumb. And anyways sura 4 proves the degeneracy of Shitslam allowing slavery and sex captives of war. Something even the Bronze Age Israelites weren’t allowed to
Do (deut 21-22

Your religions extremly rigid which provides 0 rook for human agency when it comes to persists of realising if thins are wrong. That’s why your religion allows for incest (cousin marrige) and other degenerate things like child fucking both of which are scientifically proven to cause harmful effects on children and the inbreds born from the union. Your religion allows this sanctifies this so yes Judjing that by today’s standards and standards back then is allowed acceptable and fair because your religion says to do so

My religion doesn’t work by such rigid systems and virtue Ethics system has it such that our moral law must always be upheld to moral standards which ofc change as humanity advances so we may not had known about incest causing the brutal things it does today but now we do and thus in our system it is wrong and not allowed to be done if you do it your a sinner end of discussion. That fluidity that room that God gave Christian’s to be able to grow adapt and learn is what separates us from you

Islam being “timeless” does not mean every historical regulation is meant to be applied identically forever. Islamic law explicitly distinguishes between universal moral principles and context-bound rulings meant to regulate existing realities and reduce harm. Quran 65:4 does not command or promote child marriage. it addresses a legal edge case in a society where such marriages already existed, which is regulation not endorsement. ikewise verses about slavery and captives restrict and humanize practices that already existed rather than eternally sanctifying them, just as the Bible regulates slavery without abolishing it. Permissibility (e.g., cousin marriage) is not obligation, and Islam’s harm principle (la ḍarar) allows restriction where harm is proven so morality isnt “frozen”

also, hadith is seperate from quran and sahih al bukhari is a hadith

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

Islam being “timeless” does not mean every historical regulation is meant to be applied identically forever. Islamic law explicitly distinguishes between universal moral principles and context-bound rulings meant to regulate existing realities and reduce harm. Quran 65:4 does not command or promote child marriage. it addresses a legal edge case in a society where such marriages already existed, which is regulation not endorsement. ikewise verses about slavery and captives restrict and humanize practices that already existed rather than eternally sanctifying them, just as the Bible regulates slavery without abolishing it. Permissibility (e.g., cousin marriage) is not obligation, and Islam’s harm principle (la ḍarar) allows restriction where harm is proven so morality isnt “frozen”

also, hadith is seperate from quran and sahih al bukhari is a hadith

I want to apologise for being rude

I was of order there was no need for me to be rude and disrespect you or your faith please accept my apology I dunno why I jsut get cortisol infused during these types of convos and it’s not good or right so I once again apologise and idc or mind you slandering my faith tbh


The bible makes it clear that slavery is only allowed due to the hardness of the Israelites but also due to the lack of political power Christian’s had during the early Roman Empire. St Gregory of Nyssa a key player in the 2nd eccumenical council is one of the first people in human history possibly the first to openly speak out against slavery without death.

Islam allows it and your prophet had multiple slaves and sex slaves such as Maria the Copt and even fucked one over Fatima on her birthday which upset her a lot. You Quran says to obey Allah and his messenger and follow all he does” Mohammed had sex slaves Mohammed had multiple wives Mohammed had a child bride and he also had standard slaves. Following him means you can do these it’s permissible it is what it is.

Cousin marrige isn’t an obligation I know that but the fact it’s allowed and permissable is the problem. In my religion it’s not permissible. I’m aware of Hadith but Sunni Muslims also follow that because without Hadith you don’t know how many chapters should be in the Quran and you can’t make sense of various verses in the Quran and don’t even know when and the context of revelation took place or how to even follow Mohammed so yes Hadith is very important and necessary to make sense of the Quran even if it’s 200-300 years after the Quran’s creation lmfao


Your prophet allows for men to fuck kids he holler did so, so in shariah it’s allowed.
Ofc Muslims to not upset to wider world will try hide and reform their RELGION but then reality is it’s still there

I’m extremely versed in Islam so I know what I’m speaking about I’m not one of these dumb white boy Kafirs who fall for the “Muslims gonna rape my wife and bring sharia law where they will kill off all us” shit

 

[thekidd8]

if intellectually competent yes. the same way a 9 year old can consent to an abortion without parental permission if deemed competent in the UK, just an example.

Blow yourself and your family up already you brown terrorist. No 9 year old can ever be intellectually competent enough to consent to a sexual relationship. Have fun in hell with your fake prophet.

 

[Deleted member 271577]

I want to apologise for being rude

I was of order there was no need for me to be rude and disrespect you or your faith please accept my apology I dunno why I jsut get cortisol infused during these types of convos and it’s not good or right so I once again apologise and idc or mind you slandering my faith tbh


The bible makes it clear that slavery is only allowed due to the hardness of the Israelites but also due to the lack of political power Christian’s had during the early Roman Empire. St Gregory of Nyssa a key player in the 2nd eccumenical council is one of the first people in human history possibly the first to openly speak out against slavery without death.

Islam allows it and your prophet had multiple slaves and sex slaves such as Maria the Copt and even fucked one over Fatima on her birthday which upset her a lot. You Quran says to obey Allah and his messenger and follow all he does” Mohammed had sex slaves Mohammed had multiple wives Mohammed had a child bride and he also had standard slaves. Following him means you can do these it’s permissible it is what it is.

Cousin marrige isn’t an obligation I know that but the fact it’s allowed and permissable is the problem. In my religion it’s not permissible. I’m aware of Hadith but Sunni Muslims also follow that because without Hadith you don’t know how many chapters should be in the Quran and you can’t make sense of various verses in the Quran and don’t even know when and the context of revelation took place or how to even follow Mohammed so yes Hadith is very important and necessary to make sense of the Quran even if it’s 200-300 years after the Quran’s creation lmfao


Your prophet allows for men to fuck kids he holler did so, so in shariah it’s allowed.
Ofc Muslims to not upset to wider world will try hide and reform their RELGION but then reality is it’s still there

I’m extremely versed in Islam so I know what I’m speaking about I’m not one of these dumb white boy Kafirs who fall for the “Muslims gonna rape my wife and bring sharia law where they will kill off all us” shit

I accept your apology and thank you for it, I also apologize if I offended you, it was not my intent, rather to inform.


That said, I don’t agree with your conclusions, and I think they rely on polemical framing rather than consistent historical or legal analysis.


First, on slavery: every ancient society you’re referencing including biblical Israel and the Roman Christian world permitted slavery. Islam did not introduce it; it regulated an existing system, restricted abuse, recognized legal rights, and repeatedly incentivized emancipation. The claim that Christianity uniquely opposed slavery early on is historically false formal abolition came many centuries later, and often in explicitly Christian societies that practiced it extensively.


Second, the term sex slave is a modern anachronism. Islamic law explicitly forbids coercion, exploitation, and prostitution. Maria al-Qibṭiyya’s status is discussed within a historical legal framework, she was later freed, honored, and recognized as the mother of the Prophet’s child. Using modern loaded language does not prove abuse; it only distorts history.


Third, zina has a specific legal definition in Islam. Relations within marriage or within a lawful framework recognized at the time do not qualify as zina by Islamic law. You may reject that framework morally today, but redefining Islamic terms to claim an internal contradiction doesn’t work.


Fourth, “following the Prophet” does not mean copying every historical action universally. Islamic jurisprudence clearly distinguishes between context specific practices and binding moral principles. This is why your claim that Islam universally permits harm or abuse today does not reflect how Islamic law actually functions.


Fifth, permissibility is not obligation. Cousin marriage being allowed does not mean it is encouraged or required, just as many permitted things are discouraged based on harm, context, and wisdom.


Finally, accusations about marriage age rely on selective readings, ignore historical norms across civilizations, and collapse complex scholarly debates into inflammatory labels. Serious historians Muslim and non Muslim do not treat this as the simplistic issue critics present.

You seem well informed and I appreciate that

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

I accept your apology and thank you for it, I also apologize if I offended you, it was not my intent, rather to inform.


That said, I don’t agree with your conclusions, and I think they rely on polemical framing rather than consistent historical or legal analysis.


First, on slavery: every ancient society you’re referencing including biblical Israel and the Roman Christian world permitted slavery. Islam did not introduce it; it regulated an existing system, restricted abuse, recognized legal rights, and repeatedly incentivized emancipation. The claim that Christianity uniquely opposed slavery early on is historically false formal abolition came many centuries later, and often in explicitly Christian societies that practiced it extensively.


Second, the term sex slave is a modern anachronism. Islamic law explicitly forbids coercion, exploitation, and prostitution. Maria al-Qibṭiyya’s status is discussed within a historical legal framework, she was later freed, honored, and recognized as the mother of the Prophet’s child. Using modern loaded language does not prove abuse; it only distorts history.


Third, zina has a specific legal definition in Islam. Relations within marriage or within a lawful framework recognized at the time do not qualify as zina by Islamic law. You may reject that framework morally today, but redefining Islamic terms to claim an internal contradiction doesn’t work.


Fourth, “following the Prophet” does not mean copying every historical action universally. Islamic jurisprudence clearly distinguishes between context specific practices and binding moral principles. This is why your claim that Islam universally permits harm or abuse today does not reflect how Islamic law actually functions.


Fifth, permissibility is not obligation. Cousin marriage being allowed does not mean it is encouraged or required, just as many permitted things are discouraged based on harm, context, and wisdom.


Finally, accusations about marriage age rely on selective readings, ignore historical norms across civilizations, and collapse complex scholarly debates into inflammatory labels. Serious historians Muslim and non Muslim do not treat this as the simplistic issue critics present.

You seem well informed and I appreciate that

Permission of incest is in your religion therefore it permits degeneracy that is negative to humans. It’s not about it being obligatory which you already know it’s about the fact that your GOD ALLOWS THIS AND SAYS ITS FINE TO DO DESPITE HIM KNOWING THE RISKS.


Christianity speaks out against slavery numerous verses saying stuff like “Let their be no Greek man woman slave or Jew all are one in Christ” and other verses such as “now go to your master not as a slave but as a brother” Christianity has always taught to remove the taint of slavery from the get go. Islam never had this issue if it did then Mohammed aka perfect example of all time wouldn’t had been a slave trader . Yes the Jews had slaves and god was weaning them off it in the revelation of Christ that was complete, but such changes don’t occur overnight. Anyways eventually it was done and slavery was abolished though ofc humans being pricks do what they want a some people DGAF and still do it regardless however the relgions stance on Slavery is very clear. I even mentioned an early church father that supports my point yet you choose to brush it off lmfao


Yeah Islam says it prevents cohersian etc but in practice it doesn’t because a female slave will only fuck her master because she was coerced or forced, to prevent this and if your god knows everything as you claim he’d just say what he told the Israelites “No female slaves you can’t sleep with them” dueteronomy is clear on this why is it that the Muslim god ignored this and creates his own stuff when the Bible God stated that if you get a captive woman you are to let her Mourn for 3 weeks shave heir head bald and then OFFER MARRIGE TO HER you mustn’t touch her in any way until she agrees to marry if not you free her and let her go. Your god doesn’t say this does he so the Quran and Hadiths say rape is wrong BUUUUTTTT in practice it’s an oxymoron because to fuck a female slave in of itself is a power dynamic issue to begin with making it rape regardless . So Islam in a round about way allows for rape (I debated my buddy on this that’s how I know about this loophole)

Well depends some schools of Islam don’t follow Hadiths etc so they can’t follow Mohammed to begin with. But for Sunni Muslims? Yeah following Mohammed is a prerequisite, what’s why non Arabs go mosque dressed like Arabs and recite Quran in Arabic even though Arabians back then didn’t wear the modern Arab clothes today


As for marrige age here’s the conclusion,

Quran == unchanged eternal word of God his literal attribute, says Mohammed is perfect human of all time past and present

Result= whatever your book says good bad and ugly remains the case regardless of era and whatever ohammed does he’s better than any human meaning your RELGION says a Pedophile is the greatest human ever (and I don’t mean any disrespect just being honest)

 

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Blow yourself and your family up already you brown terrorist. No 9 year old can ever be intellectually competent enough to consent to a sexual relationship. Have fun in hell with your fake prophet.

the bible permits it by the way, 1 Corinthians 7:36!!

what makes you so angry? girl cheating on you or something? bad pussy? couldn't find a virgin for yourself? baaaahahahah

also christianity is responsible for more deaths than islam, you are really coping here

anyways, you are a waste of human space and deserves to rot, enjoy your day