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What would be the best cycle for a 17 year old looking for height growth and muscle growth without closing growth plates prematurely
 
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you dont cycle peptides jfl, standard heightmaxxing-muscle growth stack is test, hgh and ai
 
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jester patell said:
What would be the best cycle for a 17 year old looking for height growth and muscle growth without closing growth plates prematurely
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not sure youll get much height at 17. get xrays to see if your growth plates are open. also how old are you and how tall
 
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maxxerlk said:
not sure youll get much height at 17. get xrays to see if your growth plates are open. also how old are you and how tall
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I was a late bloomer and my growth plates are definitely open hecsyse I’m growing around 2-3cm a month and I’m 5f8 :feelswah:
 
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eliasybybyb said:
you dont cycle peptides jfl, standard heightmaxxing-muscle growth stack is test, hgh and ai
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Genuinely how hard is to do a basic overview of whatever your looking to do before you ask people? its not a hard question bro, with sum "muh cycle peptide for height pls"
 
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maxxerlk said:
how do you know your a late bloomer. have you ever done like a height calculator or has a doctor told you how tall you will be or wtv
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I hit puberty around late 15-16 and doctor told me when I was younger I’d be around 5f9-10
 
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jester patell said:
I’m confused tho if you don’t cycle peptides how long you stay on them
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Depends which peptide you mean out of the 10000000. But if youre talking about HGH its recommended to not run it longer than a year.
 
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Oesteogenesis said:
Genuinely how hard is to do a basic overview of whatever you’re looking to do before you ask people? its not a hard question bro, with sum "muh cycle peptide for height pls
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No need to be such a faggit pal just asking thought this is where you ask questions idc your probably ltn jfl sorry I’m not a expert on peptides
 
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jester patell said:
No need to be such a faggit pal just asking thought this is where you ask questions idc your probably ltn jfl sorry I’m not a expert on peptides
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yea keep using all these terms nigga your a fucking retard that doesnt know anything your a useless being with nothing going good for you. Instead you can first go to google and type in your question since your a retard and dont know anything before asking.
 
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eliasybybyb said:
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HGH can be run all year round with no issues, its also dose dependent but if you run moderate dose youll be fine long term.

you legit just need to do blood work and keep in track with your sides and biomarkers from your blood work ofc
 
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Oesteogenesis said:
HGH can be run all year round with no issues, its also dose dependent but if you run moderate dose youll be fine long term.
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I dont know what in your opinion is a moderate dose. But if its below 5iu its not even worth it do it then cause you wont gain any height from it.
 
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eliasybybyb said:
I dont know what in your opinion is a moderate dose. But if its below 5iu its not even worth it do it then cause you wont gain any height from it.
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moderate dose id say is 6-8ius, also please tell me how you know below 5ius isnt worth it? people respond it to differently and their liver converts IGF-1 alot more. Also your not gaining much height if any height from HGH atleast past your genetical ceiling ive gained 2.5cms in the past 4 months on GH (you also dont know if the growth is due to puberty or GH maybe a mix of both) im taking it for fatloss, recovery and sleep personally right now
 
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Oesteogenesis said:
moderate dose id say is 6-8ius, also please tell me how you know below 5ius isnt worth it? people respond it to differently and their liver converts IGF-1 alot more. Also your not gaining much height if any height from HGH atleast past your genetical ceiling ive gained 2.5cms in the past 4 months on GH
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Yeah good luck running 6-8ius longer than a year without getting a nigger nose and elephant ears, also u produce naturally in puberty 4-6 ius HGH thats why its not worth it. Also your point "Also your not gaining much height if any height from HGH atleast past your genetical ceiling ive gaine 2.5cms in the past 4 months on GH" doesnt have to do anything with what i said, I dont care how many cm's you have grown.
 
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Yeah good luck running 6-8ius longer than a year without getting a nigger nose and elephant ears, also u produce naturally in puberty 4-6 ius HGH thats why its not worth it. Also your point "Also your not gaining much height if any height from HGH atleast past your genetical ceiling ive gaine 2.5cms in the past 4 months on GH" doesnt have to do anything with what i said, I dont care how many cm's you have grown.
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Please show me a single study or a single transformation which caused nigger nose and elephant ears that happened from 1-2 years of 6-8ius use from HGH? thats not how exogenous HGH works, it doesnt just replace that GH completely that the body naturally produces lmao. Also the entire point of this HGH is for IGF-1 atleast from what you recommended and ops goal which is height, some peoples livers produce more or less IGF-1 which means that if someone who responds better runs what 4ius of HGH might have better IGF-1 levels/conversion than someone who runs 6ius, youll never know until you do bloodwork. I bet you havent touched a needle in your life you useless creature. And yes it does you gave this retard OP a "height and muscle maxxing" cycle which was test GH and Ai so that point of me gaining height and how the genetic ceiling works is relevant you retarded monkey ape

EDIT: you do realise some bodybuilders run upwards of 20-30ius ED and face no nigger nose and elephant ears right
 
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Oesteogenesis said:
Please show me a single study or a single transformation which caused nigger nose and elephant ears that happened from 1-2 years of 6-8ius use from HGH? thats not how exogenous HGH works, it doesnt just replace that GH completely that the body naturally produces lmao. Also the entire point of this HGH is for IGF-1 atleast from what you recommended and ops goal which is height, some peoples livers produce more or less IGF-1 which means that if someone who responds better runs what 4ius of HGH might have better IGF-1 levels/conversion than someone who runs 6ius, youll never know until you do bloodwork. I bet you havent touched a needle in your life you useless creature. And yes it does you gave this retard OP a "height and muscle maxxing" cycle which was test GH and Ai so that point of me gaining height and how the genetic ceiling works is relevant you retarded monkey ape

EDIT: you do realise some bodybuilders run upwards of 20-30ius ED and face no nigger nose and elephant ears right
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First off, why does me having injecting HGH have anything to do with this

I never said that it replaces your natural gh production, i just said what you already produce during puberty. I never gave him a specific dose also, so i dont know why youre assuming that, but for most of the people 6iu is the most optimal dose and safest dose to run - you know that urself. Idk why youre still on genetic ceiling cause i never even mentioned that wtf? Did i say you can surpass your genetic ceiling, what do you want from me bro? Some bodybuilders running ridiculous amounts of HGH doesnt prove anything cause as you said it differs with every person, some guys soft tissue changes alot while for another guy it doesnt change anything.

This is what i found what happens when you have too much excess gh over a long period of time while its fucking known
www.niddk.nih.gov

Acromegaly - NIDDK

Overview of acromegaly, a disorder that occurs when the body makes too much growth hormone over a long period of time.
www.niddk.nih.gov www.niddk.nih.gov
 
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Oesteogenesis said:
yea keep using all these terms nigga your a fucking retard that doesnt know anything your a useless being with nothing going good for you. Instead you can first go to google and type in your question since your a retard and dont know anything before asking.
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eliasybybyb said:
First off, why does me having injecting HGH have anything to do with this

I never said that it replaces your natural gh production, i just said what you already produce during puberty.
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Your literally saying that 5ius is useless because your body produces 4-6ius peak puberty? this literally means your saying 5ius doesnt add anything on because its useless since you already produce more, this is why i said that

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This literally is false, how is under 5ius useless even if your body produces 4-6ius during peak puberty? and i stated HGH will not gain you height lmao maybe a little if your lucky its also very hard to measure if GH helps it, since it could be many other factors such as a late puberty etc.. this is why i posted the blind leading the blind picture, because your giving advice which is completely false, this also points to my claim about genetic ceilings and limits but you said were irrelevant even though this was your point?
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I never gave him a specific dose also, so i dont know why youre assuming that, but for most of the people 6iu is the most optimal dose and safest dose to run - you know that urself.
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You said HGH isnt recommended to run for over a year, you didnt state a dose this is why i argued that its dose dependant and running moderate doses long term wont give the negatives aspects which you pointed out.
eliasybybyb said:
Idk why youre still on genetic ceiling cause i never even mentioned that wtf? Did i say you can surpass your genetic ceiling, what do you want from me bro?
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You offered OP a simple stack for "height muscle max" or whatever bullshit your talking about which literally is relevant to it lmao your saying yea take HGH, AI and test and youll grow if you say its a "heightmaxx stack".

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Some bodybuilders running ridiculous amounts of HGH doesnt prove anything cause as you said it differs with every person, some guys soft tissue changes alot while for another guy it doesnt change anything.
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This is why like i said blood work matters, getting your IGF-1 tested before and after using HGH or after every 3 months is crucial you can also keep track of BG everyday and other sides can be handled with simple knowledge on them.
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This is what i found what happens when you have too much excess gh over a long period of time while its fucking known
www.niddk.nih.gov

Acromegaly - NIDDK

Overview of acromegaly, a disorder that occurs when the body makes too much growth hormone over a long period of time.
www.niddk.nih.gov www.niddk.nih.gov
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This is commonly known, however this still doesn't prove how much excess Gh is needed for this effect and also most of these people who get acromegaly is from pituitary gland issues such as tumours, find me a study where it shows HGH use specifically (at moderate doses) not a general article which refers to excessive GH to support this claim.
 
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jester patell said:
What would be the best cycle for a 17 year old looking for height growth and muscle growth without closing growth plates prematurely
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dont cycle until u finish puberty or it will fuck up ur hormones and make u deformed
 
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jester patell said:
What would be the best cycle for a 17 year old looking for height growth and muscle growth without closing growth plates prematurely
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You cant grow more height if you afraid of them closing early. Its jjust a side effect that will happen regarldess.

Take any gh and that will be a side, if its igf1, hgh, or gh peptides.

Its just that the more effective , Igf1 > Hgh > Peptides

The more sides
 
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FlotPSL said:
Read the whole thread,very tuff arguments

Whats your opinion?
Idrk about peptides and other drugs
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A 17 year old can't max out height growth with simple exogenous peptides or steroids.
Barely a few cms if even.

For bones you just pin test and hope for the best.

I even got a list with optimal stacks so you could increase the results but I can't find it right now. If I were to find it I could show it here.
 
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Oesteogenesis said:
yea keep using all these terms nigga your a fucking retard that doesnt know anything your a useless being with nothing going good for you. Instead you can first go to google and type in your question since your a retard and dont know anything before asking.
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Loved ts
 
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King_Schnitzel said:
If you take everything on the pic and not die, then what?
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He is 17. Safe to say majority of growth plates are closed.

He'd prolly get some facial growth depending on dosages and how bad he looks rn.

Like if he didn't properly hit the puberty and looks feminine than roids+hgh would help with face but if test/igf-1 was normal during puberty then there wouldn't be much change.

I'd guess if he took allat and didn't die than he'd end up with a solid physyque, denser bones, and a changed face depending on few factors, maybe a better frame too.

But then again what do I know. If loox took the same shit and got to where he is rn then you could also see some drastic change.

It's all genetics, even how you react to PEDs. I can pin hgh and roids and grow my jaw how i want OP can do same shit and get absolutely nothing.
 
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Spieldren said:
He is 17. Safe to say majority of growth plates are closed.

He'd prolly get some facial growth depending on dosages and how bad he looks rn.

Like if he didn't properly hit the puberty and looks feminine than roids+hgh would help with face but if test/igf-1 was normal during puberty then there wouldn't be much change.

I'd guess if he took allat and didn't die than he'd end up with a solid physyque, denser bones, and a changed face depending on few factors, maybe a better frame too.

But then again what do I know. If loox took the same shit and got to where he is rn then you could also see some drastic change.

It's all genetics, even how you react to PEDs. I can pin hgh and roids and grow my jaw how i want OP can do same shit and get absolutely nothing.
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But for my case maybe.
I'm 16.5 and look like 14. Subhuman body, subhuman lower third. Okay middle third and upper third lacks brow ridge projection and i got negative canthal tilt.
 
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King_Schnitzel said:
But for my case maybe.
I'm 16.5 and look like 14. Subhuman body, subhuman lower third. Okay middle third and upper third lacks brow ridge projection and i got negative canthal tilt.
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It depends 100 % on you to weight out the cons and pros of this.

If you are really subhuman then roids will help at 16.5 especially if you look 14 and have a subhuman lower third.

You should do this safetly with blood work cuz it can go wrong very quickly. But then again, pros and cons. At 16.5 in puberty you can get results that you prolly couldnt later in life so its your call.

The main concern would be to not crashing E2 and not damaging any of health markers. all of which you can safely manage with blood work.

Im 17 I am also objectively sub4 I am actively searching for jobs most of my day just to afford roids hgh and blood tests.

Most people will fearmonger and say "muh roids underage = retarded" but all subhumans who have literally no hope in life and will definetly rope from how ugly they are should 100% try everything they can to ascend

Id research a fuck ton to understand all the risks and whatnot but this is the rough approx cycle i'd recommend:

Testosterone 100-500mg per week. Hgh as much as you can afford (ofc not 100IUs per day), ai to not close growth plates before genetic height is reached.

You can look into the dht derrivatives like anavar, proviron mast etc but at 16.5 not really needed unless you want physique gains.

also support stack for health like berberine/metformin/maybe even low dose reta for insulin resistance, topical anti androgens if you experience MPB, etc.

Again its all a rough quick answer you need to research yourself a lot to understand what each compound does and if positives do outweigh the risks
 
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King_Schnitzel said:
But for my case maybe.
I'm 16.5 and look like 14. Subhuman body, subhuman lower third. Okay middle third and upper third lacks brow ridge projection and i got negative canthal tilt.
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Just rope
 
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Spieldren said:
Testosterone 100-500mg per week. Hgh as much as you can afford (ofc not 100IUs per day), ai to not close growth plates before genetic height is reached.

You can look into the dht derrivatives like anavar, proviron mast etc but at 16.5 not really needed unless you want physique gains.

also support stack for health like berberine/metformin/maybe even low dose reta for insulin resistance, topical anti androgens if you experience MPB, etc.

Again its all a rough quick answer you need to research yourself a lot to understand what each compound does and if positives do outweigh the risks
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I have 0€.
Coped the last few months.
My parents refuse to let me go to the doctor cuz the one we dont gotta pay basically said "It's over, fuck you".
 
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