philosophy of mind

[Deleted member 231621]

If consciousness is neurons, then the one who said that doesn't exist (absurd)
So physicalism and eliminative materialism are wrong. There's also idealism (monistic), which is almost the same as solipsism, which can be debunked by saying that if everything depends on your consciousness then if you say that nothing depends on your consciousness then it really becomes true
It's more harder with dualism tho, it's simply not clear how substances are connected which each other
Panpsychism is simply strange, how microminds create one big mind then?
and the problem with neutral monism is also that what is the third substance then (i doubt that they can explain it)?
The only coherent philosophy here is double-aspect monism
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[Edelweiss]

then the one who said that doesn't exist (absurd)

their neurons exist

 

[registerfasterusing]

If consciousness is neurons, then the one who said that doesn't exist (absurd)
So physicalism and eliminative materialism are wrong. There's also idealism (monistic), which is almost the same as solipsism, which can be debunked by saying that if everything depends on your consciousness then if you say that nothing depends on your consciousness then it really becomes true
It's more harder with dualism tho, it's simply not clear how substances are connected which each other
Panpsychism is simply strange, how microminds create one big mind then?
and the problem with neutral monism is also that what is the third substance then (i doubt that they can explain it)?
The only coherent philosophy here is double-aspect monism
@Aristotélēs @unstable @foidletslayer

descartes was a retard

 

[Deleted member 231621]

their neurons exist

neurons do, they don't

 

[Edelweiss]

neurons do, they don't

they are their neurons

 

[Deleted member 231621]

descartes was a retard

not at all, i don't agree with his dualism though but it doesn't debunk his whole philosophy

 

[unstable]

hmm, i am a collection of neurons
problem with solipsism is that something else must exist outside your conciousness too.

 

[Deleted member 231621]

they are their neurons

then how do neurons become subjective experience? how do you explain qualia?

 

[nsk4ll]

If consciousness is neurons, then the one who said that doesn't exist (absurd)
So physicalism and eliminative materialism are wrong. There's also idealism (monistic), which is almost the same as solipsism, which can be debunked by saying that if everything depends on your consciousness then if you say that nothing depends on your consciousness then it really becomes true
It's more harder with dualism tho, it's simply not clear how substances are connected which each other
Panpsychism is simply strange, how microminds create one big mind then?
and the problem with neutral monism is also that what is the third substance then (i doubt that they can explain it)?
The only coherent philosophy here is double-aspect monism
@Aristotélēs @unstable @foidletslayer

i didnt understand most of it but since ur smart i assume its highiq
good thread

 

[registerfasterusing]

not at all, i don't agree with his dualism though but it doesn't debunk his whole philosophy

i disagree strongly w the cartesian subject

 

[Edelweiss]

then how do neurons become subjective experience?

because theyre urs

how do you explain qualia?

Wtf is that nigga

 

[Edelweiss]

i didnt understand most of it but since ur smart i assume its highiq
good thread

FUcking retards like u are whats wrong with this forum, see a few big words and rep them and call them high iq when it provided 0 value to u, U are a fucking retard kys

 

[unstable]

then how do neurons become subjective experience? how do you explain qualia?

because theyre urs

Wtf is that nigga

he is a unsophisticated retard, he can't possibly understand what a qualia is.

 

[registerfasterusing]

FUcking retards like u are whats wrong with this forum, see a few big words and rep them and call them high iq when it provided 0 value to u, U are a fucking retard kys

Agree

 

[nsk4ll]

FUcking retards like u are whats wrong with this forum, see a few big words and rep them and call them high iq when it provided 0 value to u, U are a fucking retard kys

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[The Fool]

consciousness could be maladaptive evolutionary adaption

 

[Deleted member 115673]

If consciousness is neurons, then the one who said that doesn't exist (absurd)
So physicalism and eliminative materialism are wrong. There's also idealism (monistic), which is almost the same as solipsism, which can be debunked by saying that if everything depends on your consciousness then if you say that nothing depends on your consciousness then it really becomes true
It's more harder with dualism tho, it's simply not clear how substances are connected which each other
Panpsychism is simply strange, how microminds create one big mind then?
and the problem with neutral monism is also that what is the third substance then (i doubt that they can explain it)?
The only coherent philosophy here is double-aspect monism
@Aristotélēs @unstable @foidletslayer

im too retarded to comprehend this

 

[Deleted member 231621]

because theyre urs

so if neurons belong to you (theyre urs as you said) then you=/=your neurons, so you debunked your previous claim

because theyre urs

Wtf is that nigga

it's inner feeling

i didnt understand most of it but since ur smart i assume its highiq
good thread

thank youuu

 

[Edelweiss]

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Kill Yourself Retard.

 

[Edelweiss]

so if neurons belong to you (theyre urs as you said) then you=/=your neurons, so you debunked your previous claim

ur thoughts = ur neaurons, Every part of yourself = u

it's inner feeling

caused by neurons

 

[nsk4ll]

Kill Yourself Retard.

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[Deleted member 231621]

consciousness could be maladaptive evolutionary adaption

i don't think so

 

[Edelweiss]

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[Deleted member 231621]

ur thoughts = ur neaurons, Every part of yourself = u

caused by neurons

neurons can't be thoughts by definition, neurons are physical while thoughts are abstract

 

[nsk4ll]

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your opinion is utterly insignificant

 

[unstable]

how @Aristotélēs feels after making thread that 3 people understand.

 

[Eskorbutin]

 

[Eskorbutin]

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@theRetard https://hegel.net/en/e0.htm you can click in each triangle and go deeper!

 

[Deleted member 231621]

@theRetard https://hegel.net/en/e0.htm you can click in each triangle and go deeper!

that upper triangle is about hegelianism from what i understand

 

[Eskorbutin]

that upper triangle is about hegelianism from what i understand

Everything is, it's so you can navigate the texts and how it structures. there are nice and somewhat introductory I believe you should be ok with it if you want to give it a try

 

[unstable]

Everything is, it's so you can navigate the texts and how it structures. there are nice and somewhat introductory I believe you should be ok with it if you want to give it a try

what philosophy do you follow?

 

[The Fool]

i don't think so

affirming the consciousness presupposes 'i'

 

[Deleted member 231621]

affirming the consciousness presupposes 'i'

how did evolution (that is the physical change of species) create mental?

 

[The Fool]

how did evolution (that is the physical change of species) create mental?

i dont know if its created at all

 

[Edelweiss]

This literally doesnt matter btw, just ride the wave and chill out

 

[Eskorbutin]

what philosophy do you follow?

I like Hegelianism and Marxism but I am not an expert on any of those I just like to study that and history in my free time

 

[Deleted member 231621]

I like Hegelianism and Marxism but I am not an expert on any of those I just like to study that and history in my free time

didn't marx confront hegel

 

[The Fool]

i dont know if its created at all

more specifically, im saying its possibe that, conciousness could be fake, but we might feel like its real, but it could just be a feeling

 

[Deleted member 231621]

more specifically, im saying its possibe that, conciousness could be fake, but we might feel like its real, but it could just be a feeling

feeling already predicates consciousness

 

[LTNUser]

I'm hard rn
I got a boner seeing your thread

 

[Eskorbutin]

didn't marx confront hegel

Yes but he is heavily influenced by Hegel, he is nothing without him. Look at this funny drawing Engels made of one of the Hegelian debate clubs!

 

[Deleted member 231621]

I'm hard rn
I got a boner seeing your thread

don't show me it

 

[Deleted member 231621]

Yes but he is heavily influenced by Hegel, he is nothing without him. Look at this funny drawing Engels made of one of the Hegelian debate clubs!
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yeah i know that marx created his own system based on hegel dialectics but he confronted him in his idealist metaphysics .
also i see max stirner here, from what i know he also visited left hegelians

 

[lucifer88]

If consciousness is neurons, then the one who said that doesn't exist (absurd)
So physicalism and eliminative materialism are wrong. There's also idealism (monistic), which is almost the same as solipsism, which can be debunked by saying that if everything depends on your consciousness then if you say that nothing depends on your consciousness then it really becomes true
It's more harder with dualism tho, it's simply not clear how substances are connected which each other
Panpsychism is simply strange, how microminds create one big mind then?
and the problem with neutral monism is also that what is the third substance then (i doubt that they can explain it)?
The only coherent philosophy here is double-aspect monism
@Aristotélēs @unstable @foidletslayer

why am i not tagged on ts

 

[lucifer88]

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BRAHHH HUHUHU

 

[Deleted member 231621]

why am i not tagged on ts

are you interested in philosophy?

 

[lucifer88]

are you interested in philosophy?

ofc i am

 

[lucifer88]

ofc i am

what a stupid question

 

[Eskorbutin]

yeah i know that marx created his own system based on hegel dialectics but he confronted him in his idealist metaphysics .
also i see max stirner here, from what i know he also visited left hegelians

Yes; Stirner it's a pending for me but he must be cool from what I know.

It's hard really painting how Marx confronted Hegel without effort and I'm about to log off, but it is usually said that Marx believes Hegel saw the world upside down

 

[Deleted member 231621]

Yes; Stirner it's a pending for me but he must be cool from what I know.

It's hard really painting how Marx confronted Hegel without effort and I'm about to log off, but it is usually said that Marx believes Hegel saw the world upside down
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i like hegel more than marx tbh, not even because i dislike marx metaphysics (even though i think it's wrong), but because marx was full of hatred