Politics and Economics 101

[Deleted member 1476]

I’ve seen so many clueless debates about politics on this forum and the internet generally, especially from fat, sweaty, type-2 diabetic Americans. Below are some brief outlines of often misused terms based on my semi-decent understanding

Economics

Capitalism: private ownership of the means of production. Production driven by pursuit of profit

Socialism: social ownership of the means of production. Production driven by needs of society

Social democracy: common form of socialism in the West since WWII. economic democracy (eg trade unionism, nationalised industry, cooperatives) plus state intervention to promote social justice (eg welfare state, progressive taxation, universal healthcare)

Communism: another ideology within socialism yet to be realised in any meaningful way. Classless, stateless society like that of prehistory

Politics

Liberalism: essentially the political manifestation of Enlightenment thought and the foundation of all Western societies

Progressivism: opposite of conservatism. Seeks to reform or replace institutions. Innovation

Conservatism: opposite of progressivism (NOT of liberalism). Seeks to preserve institutions and defend the status quo. Tradition

Other

Marxism: predominantly a materialist theory of a human history defined by struggle between social classes culminating in communism. Not part of socialism (socialism pre-dates it) but can be complementary

Marxism–Leninism: the official state ideology of the so-called ‘communist countries’. Builds on Marxism by developing a revolutionary strategy to enact Marx’s theories, unfortunately leading to dictatorship and totalitarianism in most cases

Identity politics/SJWs: progressivism gone completely mad to the detriment of actual progress. Unrelated to liberalism despite proponents often being referred to as liberals

 

[DrunkenSailor]

 

[YMKSPRTR]

I’ve seen so many clueless debates about politics on this forum and the internet generally, especially from fat, sweaty, type-2 diabetic Americans. Below are some brief outlines of often misused terms based on my semi-decent understanding

Economics

Capitalism: private ownership of the means of production. Production driven by pursuit of profit

Socialism: social ownership of the means of production. Production driven by needs of society

Social democracy: common form of socialism in the West since WWII. economic democracy (eg trade unionism, nationalised industry, cooperatives) plus state intervention to promote social justice (eg welfare state, progressive taxation, universal healthcare)

Communism: another ideology within socialism yet to be realised in any meaningful way. Classless, stateless society like that of prehistory

Politics

Liberalism: essentially the political manifestation of Enlightenment thought and the foundation of all Western societies

Progressivism: opposite of conservatism. Seeks to reform or replace institutions. Innovation

Conservatism: opposite of progressivism (NOT of liberalism). Seeks to preserve institutions and defend the status quo. Tradition

Other

Marxism: predominantly a materialist theory of a human history defined by struggle between social classes culminating in communism. Not part of socialism (socialism pre-dates it) but can be complementary

Marxism–Leninism: the official state ideology of the so-called ‘communist countries’. Builds on Marxism by developing a revolutionary strategy to enact Marx’s theories, unfortunately leading to dictatorship and totalitarianism in most cases

Identity politics/SJWs: progressivism gone completely mad to the detriment of actual progress. Unrelated to liberalism despite proponents often being referred to as liberals

i came into this thread to shit on it , and then shit on it for not sourcing anything but calling it a politics and econ 101 - but these are all pretty basic, "neutral/non-biased/objective" definitions of the terms. nice job

 

[Morpheus]

Reminder that you can’t be blackpilled if you’re a staunch conservative/capitalist.

 

[Deleted member 1476]

Reminder that you can’t be blackpilled if you’re a staunch conservative/capitalist.

 

[Deleted member 10569]

Didn't read. Islam has a political, religious, economical, social, judicial solution for everything

 

[Deleted member 1476]

Didn't read. Islam has a political, religious, economical, social, judicial solution for everything

mashallah @ this

 

[Morpheus]

The philosophies aren’t very different. Blue pilled people think the exact same way conservative bootlickers think.

The idea that if you study, work hard, and save your money and you’ll be Jeff Bezos too is utter nonsense as we know, just like the idea that if you showered, groomed yourself, and developed your confidence and game, you could be Chad too. The 1% greedily hogs about half of all of this country’s wealth to themselves. And 10% holds about 70-80% of this nation’s wealth. Comparatively we know that 10% of Chads keep all the attractive girls to themselves and force everyone else to fight for scraps. The working class and working poor are forced to accept the system and endure putrid existences en route to 40-60 hour work weeks just to make it by. Meanwhile average normies are powerless and have to compete with each other to beta buxx so they can potentially settle down with an average to below average girl at some point.

Conservatives believe in the idea of equality. That everyone starts off on basically the same foot. Racism doesn’t exist and discrimination against the poor doesn’t either. Blue pillers also believe that romantic/social outcomes are solely a function of the decisions you make and not the genetics you’re born with. As we know though, bone structure, race, height, and so many other attributes play huge roles, just like inheritance, quality of education, and the environment one is born into all play huge roles in determining success.

What’s the solution to all of this? At the very least, democratic socialism, which will actually help level the playing field not only just in terms of socioeconomic standing, but will actually help incels and normies in the sexual/romantic sphere as well. Because now you give them the opportunity to actually increase their appeal by being able to create real wealth if they work hard. And giving them access to whatever education they choose to pursue feeds into that as well. You improve access to surgical procedures with universal healthcare that brings down costs massively and will obviously help everyone who needs to improve their looks to succeed with girls. And finally you LEGALIZE prostitution. It already makes no sense that prostitution is illegal. Women should be able to sell their bodies if they want to without the government stepping in and trying to put a stop to it, plus it creates more taxable revenue for the US. In terms of its relevance to black pill philosophy, by legalizing prostitution you do a better job of fulfilling guys’ sexual needs and make it so they don’t need to go way below their standards and inflate the egos/standards of below average whales on tinder or in bars. With it you massively improve the conditions set by hypergamy.

 

[Deleted member 6403]

i forgot how to think tbh

 

[Deleted member 3323]

I’ve seen so many clueless debates about politics on this forum and the internet generally, especially from fat, sweaty, type-2 diabetic Americans. Below are some brief outlines of often misused terms based on my semi-decent understanding

Economics

Capitalism: private ownership of the means of production. Production driven by pursuit of profit

Socialism: social ownership of the means of production. Production driven by needs of society

Social democracy: common form of socialism in the West since WWII. economic democracy (eg trade unionism, nationalised industry, cooperatives) plus state intervention to promote social justice (eg welfare state, progressive taxation, universal healthcare)

Communism: another ideology within socialism yet to be realised in any meaningful way. Classless, stateless society like that of prehistory

Politics

Liberalism: essentially the political manifestation of Enlightenment thought and the foundation of all Western societies

Progressivism: opposite of conservatism. Seeks to reform or replace institutions. Innovation

Conservatism: opposite of progressivism (NOT of liberalism). Seeks to preserve institutions and defend the status quo. Tradition

Other

Marxism: predominantly a materialist theory of a human history defined by struggle between social classes culminating in communism. Not part of socialism (socialism pre-dates it) but can be complementary

Marxism–Leninism: the official state ideology of the so-called ‘communist countries’. Builds on Marxism by developing a revolutionary strategy to enact Marx’s theories, unfortunately leading to dictatorship and totalitarianism in most cases

Identity politics/SJWs: progressivism gone completely mad to the detriment of actual progress. Unrelated to liberalism despite proponents often being referred to as liberals

Where is centrism?

 

[Deleted member 1476]

Where is centrism?

it’s different depending on the overton window in each country/not a real ideology just going with the flow

 

[Deleted member 1476]

bumo n dat

 

[Blackout.xl]

The philosophies aren’t very different. Blue pilled people think the exact same way conservative bootlickers think.

The idea that if you study, work hard, and save your money and you’ll be Jeff Bezos too is utter nonsense as we know, just like the idea that if you showered, groomed yourself, and developed your confidence and game, you could be Chad too. The 1% greedily hogs about half of all of this country’s wealth to themselves. And 10% holds about 70-80% of this nation’s wealth. Comparatively we know that 10% of Chads keep all the attractive girls to themselves and force everyone else to fight for scraps. The working class and working poor are forced to accept the system and endure putrid existences en route to 40-60 hour work weeks just to make it by. Meanwhile average normies are powerless and have to compete with each other to beta buxx so they can potentially settle down with an average to below average girl at some point.

Conservatives believe in the idea of equality. That everyone starts off on basically the same foot. Racism doesn’t exist and discrimination against the poor doesn’t either. Blue pillers also believe that romantic/social outcomes are solely a function of the decisions you make and not the genetics you’re born with. As we know though, bone structure, race, height, and so many other attributes play huge roles, just like inheritance, quality of education, and the environment one is born into all play huge roles in determining success.

What’s the solution to all of this? At the very least, democratic socialism, which will actually help level the playing field not only just in terms of socioeconomic standing, but will actually help incels and normies in the sexual/romantic sphere as well. Because now you give them the opportunity to actually increase their appeal by being able to create real wealth if they work hard. And giving them access to whatever education they choose to pursue feeds into that as well. You improve access to surgical procedures with universal healthcare that brings down costs massively and will obviously help everyone who needs to improve their looks to succeed with girls. And finally you LEGALIZE prostitution. It already makes no sense that prostitution is illegal. Women should be able to sell their bodies if they want to without the government stepping in and trying to put a stop to it, plus it creates more taxable revenue for the US. In terms of its relevance to black pill philosophy, by legalizing prostitution you do a better job of fulfilling guys’ sexual needs and make it so they don’t need to go way below their standards and inflate the egos/standards of below average whales on tinder or in bars. With it you massively improve the conditions set by hypergamy.

Aka free shit free shit and more free shit

 

[Deleted member 11221]

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