Projected look after cosmetic surgeries

[Phoenix]

Rhino
Forehead implant
Hairline lowering or Hair System
Almond Eye Surgery (cant see here)

Yay or nay?

 

[Deleted member 7776]

Yes, definitely go for it

 

[ScramFranklin]

Yay. Especially if the forehead implant looks anything that good.

 

[Deleted member 7725]

Similar nose + growth + hairline as me. I’m getting Rhino consult on Monday. I’ll see what he says about the shape. Your nose should be smaller in the after.

 

[Deleted member 6095]

Looks good. Need similar surgeries. I would try and go for hair transplant

 

[Deleted member 4797]

Why are you getting a forehead implant? Men are supposed to have sloped foreheads, consider yourself lucky

 

[WannaBeA6]

You need to make your nose slightly upturned, it's more high class

 

[Phoenix]

Similar nose + growth + hairline as me. I’m getting Rhino consult on Monday. I’ll see what he says about the shape. Your nose should be smaller in the after.

I think just getting rid of the bump will be adequate. I don't want a too feminine nose, plus don't want any breathing problems later on. Worse comes to worse, I can do it again if needed to be

Looks good. Need similar surgeries. I would try and go for hair transplant

Best of luck on that brother. PM me if you would like some suggestions or anything

 

[Phoenix]

Why are you getting a forehead implant? Men are supposed to have sloped foreheads, consider yourself lucky

You sure?



I think a sloped forehead projects a Neanderthal look, associating it with a small prefrontal cortex and low intelligence

 

[Deleted member 4797]

You sure?
View attachment 574601

took all of his sex appeal and shit on it XD.

OP you shouldn't get this forehead implant, look how much it turns Gandy into a faggot. Why do you wanna look more feminine?

 

[Phoenix]

took all of his sex appeal and shit on it XD.

OP you shouldn't get this forehead implant, look how much it turns Gandy into a faggot. Why do you wanna look more feminine?

Kind of debatable, could be his height and face length makes up for it. What do other people think?

 

[Phoenix]

Yay. Especially if the forehead implant looks anything that good.

I sure hope so lol

 

[Deleted member 4797]

I think a sloped forehead projects a Neanderthal look, associating it with a small prefrontal cortex and low intelligence

All masculinity looks more like a neanderthal though, its not a bad thing at all.

When this guy was still playing Rugby I heard many girls talking about how hot he is. His forehead 10x more sloped and neanderthal than OP, it adds sex appeal which is perfect.

Even Paul Newman, known as the most handsome guy in Hollywood history had a sloped forehead

 

[Phoenix]

You need to make your nose slightly upturned, it's more high class

Hmmm, this is smaller and slightly upturned. Maybe

 

[NarcyChadlite]

You sure?

View attachment 574601

I think a sloped forehead projects a Neanderthal look, associating it with a small prefrontal cortex and low intelligence

JFLL... be thankful for this forum that we just saved you lmao.. Sloped forehead is NEVERr a bad thing unless its combined with a super high gonial angle (which you dont have) and a neandrathal browridge..

Save money from forhead implants and instead opt for potential jaw and cheekbone augumentation (fillers or even implants depending on your FRONT profile)

Dont forget that front view is waaaay more important than profile (usually nose and chin screw that up)

 

[Phoenix]

All masculinity looks more like a neanderthal though, its not a bad thing at all.

When this guy was still playing Rugby I heard many girls talking about how hot he is. His forehead 10x more sloped and neanderthal than OP, it adds sex appeal which is perfect.

Even Paul Newman, known as the most handsome guy in Hollywood history had a sloped forehead

View attachment 574631

I could be wrong, but from my experience and research, women go for more for something in between. Back in the day, facial masculinity signified supporting character, nowadays women are financially stable, they don't need as much financial support, so the pretty girls I see go out with feminine looking guys/small noses/ with masculine jaws and height. Plus I think this dude's height plays into it as well.

I have a very masculine face and personality, by that standards I should be getting women left and right, but I always get choosen over by pretty boys. I live in America by the way, standards are different

 

[Deleted member 4797]

I could be wrong, but from my experience and research, women go for more for something in between. Back in the day, facial masculinity signified supporting character, nowadays women are financially stable, they don't need as much financial support, so the pretty girls I see go out with feminine looking guys/small noses/ with masculine jaws and height. Plus I think this dude's height plays into it as well.

I have a very masculine face and personality, by that standards I should be getting women left and right, but I always get choosen over by pretty boys. I live in America by the way, standards are different

fair enough

 

[Phoenix]

JFLL... be thankful for this forum that we just saved you lmao.. Sloped forehead is NEVERr a bad thing unless its combined with a super high gonial angle (which you dont have) and a neandrathal browridge..

Save money from forhead implants and instead opt for potential jaw and cheekbone augumentation (fillers or even implants depending on your FRONT profile)

Dont forget that front view is waaaay more important than profile (usually nose and chin screw that up)

I very much am, that's why I signed up. Was looking for the best blackpill community and found it

I read somewhere here on looksmax, they stated sloped forehead= rope. Anyone have more info on foreheads? If mine was so exotic looking, I shouldn't be having trouble getting top notched girls by this standard since I have a very masculine face

And of course front profile is best, but hard to photoshop. Just getting general ideas around, then I'll have someone do a front/side projection professionally before I risk myself under the knife

 

[Phoenix]

You guys think I can reach a potential PSL of 7 or am I deluding myself

 

[Phoenix]

Another thing, if blackpill focuses on masculine looks, shouldn't a big ugly crooked nose signify the most masculinity? Why get a nose job then?

This is one of the things that doesn't make sense to me. Some things look better that's of a feminine quality on guys, some things look better masculine. Can someone explain this

 

[Deleted member 616]

I heard that forehead implants / bone cement tend to make your forehead roundish. Most of the time it's women who get it because a full, roundish forehead looks attractive on females, while a sloped forehead is not necessarily a bad trait on males.

 

[SexyMofo]

Skip the forehead implant and everything else is good. I’d say you have potential for 6psl or just above depending on eye area, height/frame, etc. I think a tan could also really help you

 

[Deleted member 4797]

Another thing, if blackpill focuses on masculine looks, shouldn't a big ugly crooked nose signify the most masculinity? Why get a nose job then?

This is one of the things that doesn't make sense to me. Some things look better that's of a feminine quality on guys, some things look better masculine. Can someone explain this

I can explain this. A big nose comes from a recessed maxilla. If 2 guys have a forward grown maxilla, the one with the bigger higher set nose will look more masculine in the positive sense.

Post a picture of a big nose you consider detrimental and I'll break it down for you

 

[orthochadic]

Rhino
Forehead implant
Hairline lowering or Hair System
Almond Eye Surgery (cant see here)

Yay or nay?
View attachment 574568

Bro if you do maxillomandobular advancement surgery and hairmaxx/gymmaxx and widen your pfl (if it's narrow) with a lateral canthoplasty, you can slay hard as you are dimorphic. You can be an almost 7 psl with all of thoses things .

As you already need maxillomandibuoar advancement you can even ask thar the cut at your maxilla to move it forward can be as high as a modified lefort 1 so your nose will even be more projected forward allowing you to get cheek implant without having a recessed nose.
It's not over at all of you. Moneymaxx and become a Chad bro.
It's def possible for you.

 

[Phoenix]

Skip the forehead implant and everything else is good. I’d say you have potential for 6psl or just above depending on eye area, height/frame, etc. I think a tan could also really help you

Height is 5'11", I think I pass off as 6'0", maybe start using insoles. 6psl is 7.5-8 irl? Still new to the rating system

I can explain this. A big nose comes from a recessed maxilla. If 2 guys have a forward grown maxilla, the one with the bigger higher set nose will look more masculine in the positive sense.

Post a picture of a big nose you consider detrimental and I'll break it down for you

So it's not my nose as much as me having a recessed maxilla, that's the issue? The bump on the nose isn't unattractive?

Bro if you do maxillomandobular advancement surgery and hairmaxx/gymmaxx and widen your pfl (if it's narrow) with a lateral canthoplasty, you can slay hard as you are dimorphic. You can be an almost 7 psl with all of thoses things .

As you already need maxillomandibuoar advancement you can even ask thar the cut at your maxilla to move it forward can be as high as a modified lefort 1 so your nose will even be more projected forward allowing you to get cheek implant without having a recessed nose.
It's not over at all of you. Moneymaxx and become a Chad bro.
It's def possible for you.

Hairmaxx and gymaxx are definitely on my list. For my eyes they look like prey eyes, unless I sort of squint. I'm going to Dr. Taban, I'm sure he will know what to do with them

Never heard of the maxilla, it's the upper jaw? I actually have a slight underbite (dentist says crossbite), and he said reductive jaw surgery would technically be good for me, but because of the risks and cost for such a minor repair it's just better to do braces

And I posted here once before people said I have a big chin. Idk if they were just talking shit or actually pointing out objective imperfections




Thanks guys! I'm very much appreciating your inputs

 

[Phoenix]

I can explain this. A big nose comes from a recessed maxilla. If 2 guys have a forward grown maxilla, the one with the bigger higher set nose will look more masculine in the positive sense.

Post a picture of a big nose you consider detrimental and I'll break it down for you

Let's use this guy as an example then

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/13/c3/bf/13c3bfa2fb4ddb956e3c857de46fa6ed.jpg

 

[orthochadic]

You can be 6,8-7 psl one day. You are dimorphic and no failo. You can def ascend

 

[Phoenix]

You can be 6,8-7 psl one day. You are dimorphic and no failo. You can def ascend

7psl, that's an 8-9 irl? Don't get my hopes up now

 

[orthochadic]

Basically your maxilla part that is located right under your nose, can be moved forward, and your mandibular body can be distracted forward as well.
This would project your whole lower third forward, improving your airways, possibly lips and makes you look more alpha.
If you want prettier eyes, excepted for the pfl widening,
any other surgeries for the eyes doesn't seem to give good effect in my opinion (i m not an expert and don't know much about eyes surgeries)
But you need to ccw your whole facial bones complex like this:

Why does it have anything to do with your eyes ?
As your face ccw, you will be able to stand and breath with a straight forehead without impacting your airways due to your ramus pressing on your neck.
When your forehead is straight, the outer canthus of your eyes is higher than when your forehead is slopped.
Also slopped forhead gives you the angel skull backhead shape, while a straight foehead neck posture would give you the warrior skull backhead shape.

 

[orthochadic]

But this ccw isn't actual yet, all the forum is hoping for it to occur one day. Hgh with the won moon mse+facemask simulation F protocol could make miracles.
Mike mew is so positive about it at the end of one of his lectures.
I m sure it will be possible to get it in less than 5 years.

 

[Deleted member 4797]

Let's use this guy as an example then

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/13/c3/bf/13c3bfa2fb4ddb956e3c857de46fa6ed.jpg

Recessed maxilla is his problem

Here's a big nose on a well developed mid face and jaw:

Marlon Brando one of most handsome guys ever, huge roman nose.

Random model with huge roman nose, has more forward growth than your guy but less than Marlon Brando, his forward growth is in the middle. Even at this level of extra forward growth the nose becomes a benefit rather than a drawback.

 

[orthochadic]

7psl, that's an 8-9 irl? Don't get my hopes up now

I haven't seen your eyes yet, but yeah, if you eyes are fucked, do the almond eyes surgery waiting for the simulation F to occur, as well as lateral canthoplasty and fillers to get hooded eyelids.

 

[Phoenix]

@orthochadic Interesting. What's ccw?
@DatGuyYouLike

So eyes, hairmaxx/gymaxx and maxillomandobular surgery, that's it? I leave my nose alone?

 

[Yoyo2233]

Rhino
Forehead implant
Hairline lowering or Hair System
Almond Eye Surgery (cant see here)

Yay or nay?
View attachment 574568

When are u getting almond eye

 

[Phoenix]

@DatGuyYouLike If it's to achieve full on masculinity, these guys pretty much have it to the max. But really, I feel it's way too much, kind of even ugly. Maybe it's American standards talking, but I don't think those guys would be too attractive by american standards. But I really like Gandy's look, I feel like that dude could make friends with just about anyone, and get just about any girl.

Or maybe I'm missing something here

 

[Phoenix]

When are u getting almond eye

Before getting anything done, I want to make sure I have everything fully projected, and I want to do them in the right order to not mess anything up. But hopefully get it all done by the end of the year

 

[Yoyo2233]

Before getting anything done, I want to make sure I have everything fully projected, and I want to do them in the right order to not mess anything up. But hopefully get it all done by the end of the year

Good luck. I plan on doing the same..taban?

 

[Phoenix]

Good luck. I plan on doing the same..taban?

Just eyes? Yeah Taban. Gl to you too man, hopefully things go right and we beat women at their own biologically hardwired game lol

 

[Yoyo2233]

Just eyes? Yeah Taban. Gl to you too man, hopefully things go right and we beat women at their own biologically hardwired game lol

Do you have nct

 

[Phoenix]

Do you have nct

What's that?

 

[Yoyo2233]

What's that?

Negative canthal tilt

 

[Deleted member 7747]

I agree with you on your surgeries, although I agree with the others about forehead implant - you can probably skip it.

The reason you have a dip in the forehead is because you have a concavity in the forehead, combined with slight frontal bossing, strong glabella muscles, and a prominent brow ridge. It's this lack of volume in the central part of the forehead that is giving you a slight Neanderthal appearance, as well as the angle of the nose and the chin projection which are contributing to an imbalance of your facial features.

This can be easily mitigated by having the forehead concavity treated with dermal filler. This is a very over-looked treatment, but, when done right, can make a dramatic difference.

Aesthetic research findings suggest that ideally, on a man, a forehead should be straight-inclined - producing a '/' shape. On a woman, the forehead is typically convex - giving a '(' appearance. I think 1ML, for you, will be more than enough.

 

[Merlix]

I agree with you on your surgeries, although I agree with the others about forehead implant - you can probably skip it.

The reason you have a dip in the forehead is because you have a concavity in the forehead, combined with slight frontal bossing, strong glabella muscles, and a prominent brow ridge. It's this lack of volume in the central part of the forehead that is giving you a slight Neanderthal appearance, as well as the angle of the nose and the chin projection which are contributing to an imbalance of your facial features.

This can be easily mitigated by having the forehead concavity treated with dermal filler. This is a very over-looked treatment, but, when done right, can make a dramatic difference.

Aesthetic research findings suggest that ideally, on a man, a forehead should be straight-inclined - producing a '/' shape. On a woman, the forehead is typically convex - giving a '(' appearance. I think 1ML, for you, will be more than enough.

How do I fix my convex forehead? I'm lacking a distinct browridge but I read that brow implants are shit.

 

[Deleted member 7747]

How do I fix my convex forehead? I'm lacking a distinct browridge but I read that brow implants are shit.

It's hard to say without looking at it, but unless you truly have a facial deformity that can only be achieved with surgical intervention, there's a few non-surgical tips and tricks that can help counteract a convex forehead. It just depends on what your aesthetic goals are.

 

[Merlix]

It's hard to say without looking at it, but unless you truly have a facial deformity that can only be achieved with surgical intervention, there's a few non-surgical tips and tricks that can help counteract a convex forehead. It just depends on what your aesthetic goals are.

Here's a pic (morphed my chin). Top part cuts off where my hairline is. What's the trick to get a more prominent glabella bump and browridge? I can conceal the slope a bit with my hair.

 

[Deleted]

Why are you getting a forehead implant? Men are supposed to have sloped foreheads, consider yourself lucky

even gandys forhead isnt even that sloped it would be more straight than sloped if it wasnt for his huge browridge but he's a gigafrauder this is his side in neutral position

 

[Deleted]

This is the ideal forhead slope and browridge

 

[Deleted member 7747]

Here's a pic (morphed my chin). Top part cuts off where my hairline is. What's the trick to get a more prominent glabella bump and browridge? I can conceal the slope a bit with my hair.

Honestly brother, in my personal opinion, I don't know why you would want to have a more prominent bump and brow ridge. You have excellent volume in the forehead region, and an absence of concavities. It makes you look healthy and virile.

You have a collapsing of the oculi fat pad that sits underneath the eyebrow, which is common in those that are lean, and that exercise. Adding filler along the orbital rim, under the eyebrow, can help project the brow bone and create the illusion of having deep-set eyes. You can counteract feminine features by enhancing male facial characteristics - such as a strong jaw, squared chin, horizontal brow, and deep-set eyes.

The dip that you see on some men's side profile is because of a collapsed subfrontal fat pad, which causes a concavity. In my opinion, I'm not too sure why you would want to emulate this feature - it's not a good look, especially on someone that is young. It can give you quite a Neanderthal appearance, which isn't a good thing... You have good volume in your face man, appreciate it.

 

[Merlix]

Honestly brother, in my personal opinion, I don't know why you would want to have a more prominent bump and brow ridge. You have excellent volume in the forehead region, and an absence of concavities. It makes you look healthy and virile.

You have a collapsing of the oculi fat pad that sits underneath the eyebrow, which is common in those that are lean, and that exercise. Adding filler along with orbital rim, under the eyebrow, can help project the brow bone and create the illusion of having deep-set eyes. You can counteract feminine features by enhancing male facial characteristics - such as a strong jaw, squared chin, horizontal brow, deep-set eyes.

The dip that you see on some men's side profile is because of a collapsed subfrontal fat pad, which causes a concavity. In my opinion, I'm not too sure why you would want to emulate this feature - it's not a good look, especially on someone that is young. It can give you quite a Neanderthal appearance, which isn't a good thing... You have good volume in your face man, appreciate it.

Thanks this is helpful. I have uee and a roundish brow that you can't really see, with somewhat highset eyebrows (which I've lowered with selective botox injections) all creating a round feminine look. I assume the sort of supra orbital filler procure you're recommending needs to be done by a very good specialist though since I can imagine that backfiring pretty easily. Have any links to before/afters of this? Never heard of it.

 

[Deleted member 7747]

Thanks this is helpful. I have uee and a roundish brow that you can't really see, with somewhat highset eyebrows (which I've lowered with selective botox injections) all creating a round feminine look. I assume the sort of supra orbital filler procure you're recommending needs to be done by a very good specialist though since I can imagine that backfiring pretty easily. Have any links to before/afters of this? Never heard of it.

No problem man, I'm happy to help. Definitely try and go to someone that is experienced with this treatment. It's relatively a safe area to treat, but it's just a matter of finding an injector who is experienced in treating this area.

There aren't many, if any, before and after images of this procedure because it is so unknown, especially for men. But you can see the procedure being done in the video, below. You're not going to see the final outcome in the video, since the product hasn't had time to fully intergrate into the tissue, but you should get a slight indication of what the procedure looks like.