Proof that God is Real (Atheist GFIH)

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Miracles
  • Miracles Documented in the bible - Witnessed by thousands of people
  • The Miracle of Fatima (1917) - Witnessed by 70,000 people
  • The Miracle of Lanciano (8th century) - Physical Evidence
  • The Miracle of Guadalupe (1531) - Physical Evidence
  • The Resurrection of Jesus (c. AD 30) - Over 500 witnesses according to the apostle Paul
  • The Healing Miracles of Lourdes (since 1858) - 70 healing miracles officially recognized by the Church
As well as all miracles that people experience directly. God is always intervening in his creation.

The Complexity of the Universe implies a Designer

The issue with evolution from a design perspective is that evolution would get stuck in what are called Local Maximums. Evolution is hill climbing, so if there aren't nearby mutations that would improve the fitness of the cell, then evolution doesn't continue.

This is particularly important in early cell development, in the machinery that would interpret DNA. The machinery inside the cell to zip up and unzip DNA is incredible complex, and either all of it works or none of it works. There are no intermediary steps where each step improves the fitness of the cell.

From a computational perspective we've known this in computer science for a long time. This is why you can't use an evolutionary algorithm to evolve a full working plane for example, or even a simulated animal, or even a simulated cell, unless you "cheat" and give it partial solutions to work with. This is why evolutionary algorithms aren't use super heavily in machinery design. They're useful, but quickly get stuck in a local maximum.

The Fossil Record is deceptively presented

The problem with atheist scientist's interpretation of the fossil record is that they lay it out to fit a narrative. There are 8.7 million animal species on the planet. They arrange them based on similarities to form trees, which they say are evolutionary trees with "in between species". Those aren't "in between species", those are animals.

We could just as easily arrange them in a circle or a smile face and claim that live evolves in a smiley face. Or you could arrange them by color, and claim they are evolving to change color.

There are no evolutionary trees with all 8.7 million species. The scientist atheists are cherry picking species and arranging them in such a way as to provide the illusion of evolution.

The Devil

The devil and demons are real. Much of the deception in the world is their work. Influencing people. Once you realize this, you can see the devils hand behind much more. But you have to keep your guard up because there really is a war going on for your soul.
 
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#notmygod
 
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You can create new species by selective breeding this proves evolution
 
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You can create new species by selective breeding this proves evolution
Those aren't new species. We have never created an entirely new species.

We have created breeds of dogs, but they are still dogs.
 
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If god exists, he is a cruel one.
 
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Not a proof
 
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I agree
 
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Those aren't new species. We have never created an entirely new species.

We have created breeds of dogs, but they are still dogs.
Depends what "species" mean, if you ask me all the types of dogs are fundementally different
 
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If god exists why bad thing happen.
Boom all christcucks got btfo'd
 
Depends what "species" mean, if you ask me all the types of dogs are fundementally different
Do you think black people are a different species too?

Because dogs area dogs, and humans are humans.

A species is a group that can breed with one another to have babies.
 
why he gifted me these subhumans genetics bro :feelswah:
Sometimes god gives us gifts so that we may be humble and seek him.

Getting caught up in the sins of the world, with material wealth and looks may appear good in the short term but could lead to eternal damnation in hell.

If god exists why bad thing happen.
Boom all christcucks got btfo'd
Because god gifted us free will. Life was perfect in the garden of Eden but we used of free will to disobey him and we were cast out of Eden forever.

However those who believe and follow him are welcome into the kingdom of heaven.
 
Sometimes god gives us gifts so that we may be humble and seek him.

Getting caught up in the sins of the world, with material wealth and looks may appear good in the short term but could lead to eternal damnation in hell.


Because god gifted us free will. Life was perfect in the garden of Eden but we used of free will to disobey him and we were cast out of Eden forever.

However those who believe and follow him are welcome into the kingdom of heaven.
you're implying humanity's free will surpasses god's omnipotence and omniscience, contradiction.
 
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Because god gifted us free will. Life was perfect in the garden of Eden but we used of free will to disobey him and we were cast out of Eden forever.

However those who believe and follow him are welcome into the kingdom of heaven.
How is free will real if god knows what is going to happen and knows if someone is going to hell or heaven before they are even born?
 
That's called schizophrenia
The same could be said about all of history before the invention of the camera.

We can rule out one or two people, but when this many people see something, we should take notice. At least see if this lines up with what we know to be true.
 
you're implying humanity's free will surpasses god's omnipotence and omniscience, contradiction.
It doesn't surpass it. God set the world in motion knowing everything that would happen.

But the evil in the world is a necessary consequence of free will. There must be evil for there to be free will.
 
How is free will real if god knows what is going to happen and knows if someone is going to hell or heaven before they are even born?
Free will doesn't imply non-deterministic.

It means that our soul is not Ridgely confined.
 
Miracles
  • Miracles Documented in the bible - Witnessed by thousands of people
  • The Miracle of Fatima (1917) - Witnessed by 70,000 people
  • The Miracle of Lanciano (8th century) - Physical Evidence
  • The Miracle of Guadalupe (1531) - Physical Evidence
  • The Resurrection of Jesus (c. AD 30) - Over 500 witnesses according to the apostle Paul
  • The Healing Miracles of Lourdes (since 1858) - 70 healing miracles officially recognized by the Church
As well as all miracles that people experience directly. God is always intervening in his creation.

The Complexity of the Universe implies a Designer

The issue with evolution from a design perspective is that evolution would get stuck in what are called Local Maximums. Evolution is hill climbing, so if there aren't nearby mutations that would improve the fitness of the cell, then evolution doesn't continue.

This is particularly important in early cell development, in the machinery that would interpret DNA. The machinery inside the cell to zip up and unzip DNA is incredible complex, and either all of it works or none of it works. There are no intermediary steps where each step improves the fitness of the cell.

From a computational perspective we've known this in computer science for a long time. This is why you can't use an evolutionary algorithm to evolve a full working plane for example, or even a simulated animal, or even a simulated cell, unless you "cheat" and give it partial solutions to work with. This is why evolutionary algorithms aren't use super heavily in machinery design. They're useful, but quickly get stuck in a local maximum.

The Fossil Record is deceptively presented

The problem with atheist scientist's interpretation of the fossil record is that they lay it out to fit a narrative. There are 8.7 million animal species on the planet. They arrange them based on similarities to form trees, which they say are evolutionary trees with "in between species". Those aren't "in between species", those are animals.

We could just as easily arrange them in a circle or a smile face and claim that live evolves in a smiley face. Or you could arrange them by color, and claim they are evolving to change color.

There are no evolutionary trees with all 8.7 million species. The scientist atheists are cherry picking species and arranging them in such a way as to provide the illusion of evolution.

The Devil

The devil and demons are real. Much of the deception in the world is their work. Influencing people. Once you realize this, you can see the devils hand behind much more. But you have to keep your guard up because there really is a war going on for your soul.
Nogga what are you
 
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It doesn't surpass it. God set the world in motion knowing everything that would happen.

But the evil in the world is a necessary consequence of free will. There must be evil for there to be free will.
Ah again with the "god just knows what you'll do bro" cope
This creates 2 problems:
1. we can assume God controls the parameters which in return controls your decisions (environment, biology, soul), which would mean we are not free since god creates us in the way he wants.
2. Or this option where we can assume the factor that dictates our decision is entirely outside of god's control, thus granting us free will but stripping him of his omnipotence.
Choose your poison.
 
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Free will doesn't imply non-deterministic.

It means that our soul is not Ridgely confined.
How is it not ridgely confined if god knows what im going to do tomorrow and the day after that
 
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Ah again with the "god just knows what you'll do bro" cope
This creates 2 problems:
1. we can assume God controls the parameters which in return controls your decisions (environment, biology, soul), which would mean we are not free since god creates us in the way he wants.
You are free to do what you want but that is also what god wanted when he set the universe in motion.

A good example of this is Judas who betrayed jesus, but it was part of God's plan.

How is it not ridgely confined if god knows what im going to do tomorrow and the day after that
Because God didn't want every one to worship him.

The space of human decisions would have been more Ridgely confined if he made every one to worship him.

That's all that free means, that the space of human decisions is open to almost all possibilities. Some people will choose to follow him, some will not.
 
The same could be said about all of history before the invention of the camera.

We can rule out one or two people, but when this many people see something, we should take notice. At least see if this lines up with what we know to be true.
milions of people can genuinely think: (i) a man with a penis can be a woman; (ii) children should be able to choose which gender they want to be, and irreparably change their body; (iii) 16yo women aren't adults , ready to breed with even a 50yo man

should we, by your logic, agree with them?
 
You are free to do what you want but that is also what god wanted when he set the universe in motion.

A good example of this is Judas who betrayed jesus, but it was part of God's plan.


Because God didn't want every one to worship him.

The space of human decisions would have been more Ridgely confined if he made every one to worship him.

That's all that free means, that the space of human decisions is open to almost all possibilities. Some people will choose to follow him, some will not.
dude this is not how you create a ragebait thread for rep farming, put in more effort in your larp you subhuman twat.
I'm actively boosting your shit and you reply to me with shitty one liners.
 
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You are free to do what you want but that is also what god wanted when he set the universe in motion.

A good example of this is Judas who betrayed jesus, but it was part of God's plan.


Because God didn't want every one to worship him.

The space of human decisions would have been more Ridgely confined if he made every one to worship him.

That's all that free means, that the space of human decisions is open to almost all possibilities. Some people will choose to follow him, some will not.
So god chooses if a man worships him or not before he is born?Not my fault i don't believe then
 
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milions of people can genuinely think: (i) a man with a penis can be a woman; (ii) children should be able to choose which gender they want to be, and irreparably change their body; (iii) 16yo women aren't adults , ready to breed with even a 50yo man

should we, by your logic, agree with them?
"Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and do not lean on your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge him, and he will make straight your paths." Proverbs 3:5-6

You can also pray for God to do Miracles.

“You don’t have enough faith,” Jesus told them. “I tell you the truth, if you had faith even as small as a mustard seed, you could say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there,’ and it would move. Nothing would be impossible.” Matthew 17:20
 
"Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and do not lean on your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge him, and he will make straight your paths." Proverbs 3:5-6

You can also pray for God to do Miracles.

“You don’t have enough faith,” Jesus told them. “I tell you the truth, if you had faith even as small as a mustard seed, you could say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there,’ and it would move. Nothing would be impossible.” Matthew 17:20
God make this idiot realize that, if you exist, you are an evil piece of shit that doesn't deserve any praise whatsoever.

“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?”​

 
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dude this is not how you create a ragebait thread for rep farming, put in more effort in your larp you subhuman twat.
I'm actively boosting your shit and you reply to me with shitty one liners.
This nigga was saying the opposite just a few days ago hes baiting reaction
 
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So god chooses if a man worships him or not before he is born?Not my fault i don't believe then
It's your fault as well.

If we thought determinism absolved people of responsibility, prisons would only be about rehabilitation and not about punishment.

In making a decision you are responsible, no matter the deterministic mechanisms that caused that decision.

Judgment is coming for those who don't believe. God can save you.
 
 
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It's your fault as well.

If we thought determinism absolved people of responsibility, prisons would only be about rehabilitation and not about punishment.

In making a decision you are responsible, no matter the deterministic mechanisms that caused that decision.

Judgment is coming for those who don't believe. God can save you.
So someone can defy what god has determined for him and become a believer?
 
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God is real. Every one knows it.

I just wanted more of a challenge because debating smelly reddit neckbeard atheists is too easy. They just mindlessly repeat what "scientists" say without logically considering it.
 
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Jesus was a Muslim
Jesus came 500 years before Muhammad and Muhammad himself said he's the first Muslim in 6:163.

1737303530242
 
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God is real. Every one knows it.

I just wanted more of a challenge because debating smelly reddit neckbeard atheists is too easy. They just mindlessly repeat what "scientists" say without logically considering it.
Nigga admit your larping
 
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So someone can defy what god has determined for him and become a believer?
No. You can never defy what God has determined for you.

It's all part of his plan.

But it's still your choice, and you are free to make it.
 
> proof
> bible

Stopped reading right there
 
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No. You can never defy what god has determined for you.

It's all part of his plan.

But it's still your choice, and you are free to make it.
Also your not capitalizing it
 
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No. You can never defy what god has determined for you.

It's all part of his plan.

But it's still your choice, and you are free to make it.
So how is it my choice if i can't go against his wish?
 
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So how is it my choice if i can't go against his wish?

There's different definitions of free will. If you define free will as our decisions not having a cause, then none of us has free will. If you define it as acting in alignment with what we want then we do.

It's like if you write a story, the characters have free will and can do what they want, but also you are writing the story and determine what happens.
 
-proof
-unverified supernatural claims from religious book

Hahahaha. Don't make me laugh guy. Have some fucking common sense.
 
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God might be real but who says that the Christian God that you need to worship Jesus to be in a relationship with is real? It could be Allah and then ur fucked whether u believe in Christ or not
 
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-proof
-unverified supernatural claims from religious book
The bible is a collection of testimony.

Why do you believe anything about history? It's all eye witness testimony but the books of the bible were specifically selected by god.

Hahahaha. Don't make me laugh guy. Have some fucking common sense.
"For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse." Romans 1:20

God might be real but who says that the Christian God that you need to worship Jesus to be in a relationship with is real? It could be Allah and then ur fucked whether u believe in Christ or not

Christians are followers of Christ, who performed miracles, died for our sins, and was resurrected.

Islam was created by solo pedo warlord who wanted to didle kids and kill people.
 

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