PSA to Newbies: Anteface Is Overrated and “Forward Growth” Isn’t All About Anteface

[thecel]

There’s a common misconception about forward growth: that forward growth and anteface are the same.

The misconception came about from popular pictures that compare recessed facial profiles to forward-projecting facial profiles. These images popularized the idea that anteface is ideal (this is generally true).

Dunning-Kruger-cels look at these pics and conclude that forward growth basically boils down to having anteface; they think forward growth is all about how far the lower third sticks out ahead of the middle third plus how far the middle third sticks out ahead of the forehead.

The aesthetics of forward maxillas and forward mandibles isn’t about having the most anteface possible. While anteface and attractiveness are positively correlated, antefaces look unattractive when upper facial and cranial bones are flat or set back:



You may say, “That’s obvious bro! Duh balance matters!”

The reason I write this post is to emphasize the fact that upper forward growth is more important than lower forward growth. So having a projecting upper third and a receding lower third is less bad than having a recessed upper third and a protrusive lower third. The former combo is a retroface, and the latter combo is an anteface.

The recessed-upper-and-projected-lower anteface examples get mogged by people with superior facial aesthetics despite having retrofaces:

Needless to say, aesthetic forward growth plus anteface, combined, is best:

 

[Chadeep]

 

[Deleted member 114545]

where's this from

 

[thecel]

where's this from

 

[Deleted member 114545]

trying to find the actual source of the image, I kind of like how her side profile looks albeit her nasion is too low. tineye yandex google give me nothing though.

 

[looksmaxxed]

upper forward growth is just typical european browridge and nasion. it's probably why white people tend to look better than all the other races. evolutionarily, we are associating these cromagnoid feature with high survivability and developed prefrontal cortex

 

[alriodai]

the girl morph u did in ur signature is insane
i think shed rope if she ever saw that

 

[Idris Kamracu]

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amul baby

 

[Ultimate Subhuman™]

So having a projecting upper third and a receding lower third is less bad than having a recessed upper third and a protrusive lower third.

Agreed

 

[thecel]

the girl morph u did in ur signature is insane
i think shed rope if she ever saw that

 

[Deleted member 31766]

 

[alriodai]

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Why do asian women that look like this or even the one in your PFP actually look like apes?

 

[thecel]

Why do asian women that look like this or even the one in your PFP actually look like apes?

Asians are just flatcels

 

[thecel]

bump

 

[thecel]

mogger jaw forward growth but profile looks like shit

more proof that anteface is overrated

 

[Pollorex]

 

[Richard Spencer]

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tyler maher?

 

[160cmcurry]

 

[reptiles]

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mogger jaw forward growth but profile looks like shit

more proof that anteface is overrated

It's so weird it's almost like the Asian skull could avoid having a flat maxilla if the eyes were positioned more back wards tbqh I didn't even account for this as a factor.

But like what this means is that Asians don't really have a flat maxilla there eyes are flattened relative to there maxilla angle I did this shitty botched morph but his maxilla looks more forwardly prominent if you move the orbital sockets back which means an an Asian chang most likely has orbitals which are podtioned inwards .

An white chad meanwhile has his eyes more prominently forward but ontop of that his maxilla is also more forward it's so weird I don't even know if I'm onto something

 

[smartstyle]

The aesthetics of forward maxillas and forward mandibles isn’t about having the most anteface possible. While anteface and attractiveness are positively correlated, antefaces look unattractive when upper facial and cranial bones are flat or set back:

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mogger jaw forward growth but profile looks like shit

more proof that anteface is overrated

It's so weird it's almost like the Asian skull could avoid having a flat maxilla if the eyes were positioned more back wards tbqh I didn't even account for this as a factor.

But like what this means is that Asians don't really have a flat maxilla there eyes are flattened relative to there maxilla angle I did this shitty botched morph but his maxilla looks more forwardly prominent if you move the orbital sockets back which means an an Asian chang most likely has orbitals which are podtioned inwards .

An white chad meanwhile has his eyes more prominently forward but ontop of that his maxilla is also more forward it's so weird I don't even know if I'm onto something

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its not eyes, their setness and browridge doesn't matter much as long as your eyes are hooded and supported, that's not problem for asians since they have massive fatpads under eyes.

No, people with projected anteface and non projected retrofaces still look good. Here is some examples. It looks a bit of unique, and changdawg has one of the most unique(or strange) faces whatsoever. Second guy has same nationality as changdawg btw, he has more caucasoid features, but still has projected anteface and not so well projected retroface.

TLDR - All you need is maxilla and and minimal amount of upper projection to not have bug eyes. But problem is getting upper maxillary advancement is pretty much imposible without lefort-2, and bimax solely would not give an optimal results. You could probably fix it by midface implants+rhinoplasty with nose bridge implants, but meh... I dont see many asians doing bimax+rhino+midface implants, if you have some result please tag me.