Psl vs Appeal is not real (mini post)

[Veridic]

This entire debate is built on nothing but incorrect understanding of facial attractiveness dynamics. (TLDR at the bottom)

First things first: PSL is not "bones". It's a holistic 0.25-8.0 overall rating system not just about bone structure. Actual appeal is the harmony of both your bone projection AND soft tissue distribution (the muscle, fat, and dermal tissue that sits on top of bone).

I'll go a bit into archetypes you may have heard such as "pretty boy" meaning good harmony in terms of soft tissue adding youthful appeal, "ogre" referring to larger bones in terms of projection but often lacking soft tissue harmony, and "robust" (ideal) is where both bone projection and soft tissue distribution come together to create harmony.

You can have amazing bones and still look uncanny or less appealing if your soft tissue is lacking (jordan barrett being called uncanny despite being one of a kind with his genetics). Or you can have average to above average bones but look extremely appealing due to soft tissue resting on top of your bones creating the finished "look" hence why people refer to Chico as an example of this. Dimorphism is affected by both factors in very many nuanced ways which is why the PSL scale although in my personal opinion not being the best metric for determining these things, was created to rate overall appeal using both variables mentioned above (bones/soft tissue) to give an overall rating.

TLDR: PSL is not just bone structure it's a rating system. Arguing "psl vs appeal" is the same as arguing "face vs height" when either one of those can be a determining factor as to why you are uncanny or not as appealing as the next person. Your goal should be maximizing the harmony between your bone structure and soft tissue, not just chasing one trait to cope about the rest. Your appearance is a total package and no woman cares about how large your zygos are or how "ideal" your fwhr is if the other variables bring it down to the point of being a deal breaker.

 

[inversions]

Thanks man, I lost sleep over this.

 

[Joystick_Jiggy]

Thank god someone says this bruh PSL vs Appeal is straight autism they go hand in hand you cannot have appeal without psl and vise versa

 

[11OUTTA10]

hard dnr

 

[Veridic]

Thank god someone says this bruh PSL vs Appeal is straight autism they go hand in hand you cannot have appeal without psl and vise versa

I dislike the usage of the term PSL as a way to refer to bone structure at all.

 

[Joystick_Jiggy]

I hate the usage of the term PSL as a way to refer to bone structure at all.

Hard agree you earned my rep

 

[dragons6422]

Appeal means niche appeal lmao. PSL includes everything in your post.

 

[Veridic]

Appeal means niche appeal lmao. PSL includes everything in your post.

You'd be incorrect. Niche appeal is a sub demographic of archetypes pertaining to aesthetics within cultural niches valuing certain hair types, outfits, and things of that nature. It has nothing to do with objective craniofacial perception to the human brain when subconsciously registering high and low trust factors on top of mate selection as seen throughout evolution of humanity and how sexual dimorphism has shifted in terms of understanding based upon norms in society despite the underlying instincts women retain to this day of our faces, height, frame and genetics to retain youthfulness we can pass off to the offspring. Niche appeal = outlier preferences, Objective appeal = objective attractiveness.

 

[dragons6422]

You'd be incorrect. Niche appeal is a sub demographic of archetypes pertaining to aesthetics related to niches valuing certain hair types, outfits, and things of that nature. It has nothing to do with objective craniofacial perception to the human brain when subconsciously registering high and low trust factors on top of mate selection as seen throughout evolution of humanity and how sexual dimorphism has shifted in terms of understanding based upon cultural norms in society despite the underlying instincts women retain to this day of our faces, height, frame and genetics to retain youthfulness we can pass off to the offspring.

Colloquially speaking, I don’t see what utility comes from separating the term PSL from appeal.

 

[ibIameweight]

 

[Daddy's Home]

PSL is testosterone induction during pregnancy, for bigger bones, and appeal is estrogen induction, for softer bones. Both are found in various measures and quantities in any person, be they male or female. Both are desirable depending on each person's estrogen or testosterone levels, but testosterone is preferable in men, and estrogen in women..

PSL:

Appeal:

 

[Veridic]

I'm not sure why it would even matter if I did use ai to write about something objective which isn't the case regardless, and how it would alter the facts presented.

 

[Veridic]

Colloquially speaking, I don’t see what utility comes from separating the term PSL from appeal.

If you don't separate the two, the whole point of a rating framework and objective attractiveness becomes contaminated, mirin pivot though.

 

[Veridic]

PSL is testosterone induction during pregnancy, for bigger bones, and appeal is estrogen induction, for softer bones. Both are found in various measures and quantities in any person, be they male or female. Both are desirable depending on each person's estrogen or testosterone levels, but testosterone is preferable in men, and estrogen in women..

PSL:

Appeal:

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The only issue I have with your reply is the reality is that it's a lot more nuanced when it comes to what and how facial development is influenced by outside of hormones alone which aren't always a determining factor to the outcome. The faces in your examples are cherrypicked af but for the sake of the conversation they still display a blend of both testosterone which adds to masculinity and estrogen contributions to feminization of soft tissue distribution, as well as symmetry, health indicators, and other misc traits not worth mentioning, all coming together to compensate and create a perceivable final image.

 

[karmacita901]

ALL tiktokcels must read this

 

[lurking truecel]

PSL is testosterone induction during pregnancy, for bigger bones, and appeal is estrogen induction, for softer bones. Both are found in various measures and quantities in any person, be they male or female. Both are desirable depending on each person's estrogen or testosterone levels, but testosterone is preferable in men, and estrogen in women..

PSL:

Appeal:

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So narrow vs none narrow jaw