Question about rihno lip lift, and mfr

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So in distorted photos like selfies, my mfr is at a horse tier of 0.88 and .92 in mirror pics 6 feet away. The thing is my ipd ain’t that bad it’s 64 mm still lowish. My midface vertically is long asf about 70 mm. My philtrum also being 18 mm. My worry is that if I get a lip lift to help out my mfr a lil, first would it look gay? 3-5 mm off of a lip lift seems like a lot and would make me faghot tier. Bc the normal range is 12-14 mm. Secondly I feel like my philtrum would be way too short compared to my nose, so I was thinking. What if I got one of those rhinos that shorten the nose vertically which exposes more of the philtrum, then I could get a lip lift after to keep a normal philtrum and overall shorter midface bc my nose already downturned and long asf. Also have no gum showing during smile so gummy smile not a concern.
 

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So in distorted photos like selfies, my mfr is at a horse tier of 0.88 and .92 in mirror pics 6 feet away. The thing is my ipd ain’t that bad it’s 64 mm still lowish. My midface vertically is long asf about 70 mm. My philtrum also being 18 mm. My worry is that if I get a lip lift to help out my mfr a lil, first would it look gay? 3-5 mm off of a lip lift seems like a lot and would make me faghot tier. Bc the normal range is 12-14 mm. Secondly I feel like my philtrum would be way too short compared to my nose, so I was thinking. What if I got one of those rhinos that shorten the nose vertically which exposes more of the philtrum, then I could get a lip lift after to keep a normal philtrum and overall shorter midface bc my nose already downturned and long asf. Also have no gum showing during smile so gummy smile not a concern.
Lip lift
 
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Yea just read it lmao, did ur mfr get better? I feel like ur mfr always looked fine regardless of the philtrum like it was structurally correct even tho ur Phil was long. I look off and I think it’s because of ipd
Mfr 0.9-95 to exactly 1

It did improve my fwhr ratio by a bit though which is also ur issue, u would benefit from zygo fillers too probably
 
Mfr 0.9-95 to exactly 1

It did improve my fwhr ratio by a bit though which is also ur issue, u would benefit from zygo fillers too probably
My fwhr isn’t as bad undistorted it’s 1.86. I just want a .95 mfr and I’ll be happy
 
My fwhr isn’t as bad undistorted it’s 1.86. I just want a .95 mfr and I’ll be happy
1.86? How did you measure
Btw take x2/x5 mirror selfies for non distorted pictures
 
1.86? How did you measure
Btw take x2/x5 mirror selfies for non distorted pictures
I do 1x mirror pics, my fwhr high bc of wide skull making my esr low also. 1.86 fwhr .425 esr and .91 mfr
 
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The notion of improving your mfr or fwhr with getting fuller lips (i.e. shorter philtrum) is retarded. Many black guys will still look like narrow-faced peanuts despite a 2.0 fwhr and 1.2 mfr. Reducing the lips wouldn't make a big difference

I'll assume for now that you're not a bimax candidate - which you might be - as that will just make any lip/nose work irrelevant, obviously. Imo, the crucial detail is that your lips are objectively unattractive - and so is your nose. I also don't think you're a proper lip lift candidate, you need your entire vermillion advanced, and THEN only mess with your nose as you don't know how much tip reduction you can afford before achieving your final philtrum form

Your fwhr issue is borderline unfixable and you're better off trying to get top tier soft features and lower third, as you'll still look good.
 
The notion of improving your mfr or fwhr with getting fuller lips (i.e. shorter philtrum) is retarded. Many black guys will still look like narrow-faced peanuts despite a 2.0 fwhr and 1.2 mfr. Reducing the lips wouldn't make a big difference

I'll assume for now that you're not a bimax candidate - which you might be - as that will just make any lip/nose work irrelevant, obviously. Imo, the crucial detail is that your lips are objectively unattractive - and so is your nose. I also don't think you're a proper lip lift candidate, you need your entire vermillion advanced, and THEN only mess with your nose as you don't know how much tip reduction you can afford before achieving your final philtrum form

Your fwhr issue is borderline unfixable and you're better off trying to get top tier soft features and lower third, as you'll still look good.
My philtrum is 19mm meaning it’s uneccesarily elongating my midface. I compared my mfr and fwhr to drago barrett etc, but not including the philtrum just ending at the nose and my ratio is very similar and even smaller in some cases
 
Get lip lift but also your nose on the last one looks very bad tbh
 
Brutal also stop using selfies to capture ur face, the passport pic is accurate or mirror pics
I know I realized now. I measured my ipd it’s exactly 65 mm which isn’t bad my bizygo is just 154 mm and my mfr is 0.95 and 1.93 fwhr
 

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