[QUESTION] Fixing mouth breathing recession

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I mouthbreathed and had inproper swallowing mechanics resulting in a anterior open bite and a downward grown face.
I feel for the first time in my life I maintain correct oral posture now and my tongue resting position and swallowing is improving.
Im turning 21, is it too late to expect any substancial changes and should I go straight down the surgery route? Are there any adult transformations where the person went from genuinely recessed to less recessed?
 
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Send pics
 
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to be honest, i think you wont see any significant results at 21yo but its still a correct tongue posture so you should maintain it anyways
 
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Won't fix itself your bones at 21 are solidified for the most part maybe minor changes, the only way to fix it is with surgery. My condolences
 

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You can't fix it without surgery... Bimax to be exact.
 
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You can gain about 1-2mm/year of forward grow until 25, at least that is what John Mew says. I believe him frankly.
 
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You can gain about 1-2mm/year of forward grow until 25, at least that is what John Mew says. I believe him frankly.
Ive been only lurking for a bit, but why arent there legit transformation pics around if these claims where true?

On another note, should I bother with MSE If aesthetics are a concern? Are there any before/after pictures that show a noticeable change? Especially the upper half of the face like under eye area, zygos and so on as Bimax doesnt help with it as far as I know.
 
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Ive been only lurking for a bit, but why arent there legit transformation pics around if these claims where true?

On another note, should I bother with MSE If aesthetics are a concern? Are there any before/after pictures that show a noticeable change? Especially the upper half of the face like under eye area, zygos and so on as Bimax doesnt help with it as far as I know.
Yeah, astrosky documented his changes on his insta and youtube.

I'm not sure about MSE though.
 
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Best way is Lefort1 with CCW, CCW is the best thing for correcting recession, but usually with recession comes flat zygos and bad infraorbital so you will need to fix those aswell later, or maybe ur lucky and only ur jaw has grown downward
 
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It depends on so many factors, your current bone density, the extent to which your cranial sutures have matured (how rigid they are) and your diet, your level of hgh, igf-1 and so forth.

For fast results, you want to thumbpull above the front and middle teeth of your palate to gain some expansion and slight forward growth IF you're lucky.

Take 15k IU vit. d, with 400mg magnesium daily, also 500mg niacin and 500mg citicholine for optimal hormones. Good luck bro.
 

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