Question for age cucks about “manipulation.”

[Aladin]

A common argument is that an adult can easily manipulate a teenager into sex, and thus an adult fucking the teenager is wrong. Manipulation occurs by saying certain things to influence someone to act a certain way, in this case sex.

If a teenage boy goes to an adult to ask for help on getting girls, and the adult tells him what to say, is the teenager manipulating the teenage girl into sex, and is it also unethical since he just said the same shit the adult would have said?

 

[Archimedes]

I want to set the tone of the thread by bravely saying that I don't think adults should fuck kids.

 

[averagenormie]

Imo everyone should fuck someone thier age not younger or older

 

[Aladin]

I want to set the tone of the thread by bravely saying that I don't think adults should fuck kids.

You’re not setting the tone of anything. You’re unable to address if it’s okay for a teenager to use the advice given to them from an adult to fuck their peers.

 

[134applesauce456]

Imo everyone should fuck someone thier age not younger or older

fair enough

 

[Archimedes]

You’re not setting the tone of anything. You’re unable to address if it’s okay for a teenager to use the advice given to them from an adult to fuck their peers.

Depends on what the advice is but it'd probably be ok.

 

[Aladin]

Depends on what the advice is but it'd probably be ok.

So what specifically makes it okay for a teenager to say certain things to gain sex but when adult says the same things it’s wrong?

 

[Archimedes]

So what specifically makes it okay for a teenager to say certain things to gain sex but when adult says the same things it’s wrong?

Because pedophilia is a degenerate practice that is bad for society. Its bad for everyone involved except the geezer having sex with the little kid

 

[Aladin]

Because pedophilia is a degenerate practice that is bad for society. Its bad for everyone involved except the geezer having sex with the little kid

I was speaking on sex with teens which is not pedophilia.

Also, degenerate just means morally wrong, so you’re just saying “it’s wrong because it’s wrong,” which is a circular argument.

 

[Archimedes]

I was speaking on sex with teens which is not pedophilia.

Also, degenerate just means morally wrong, so you’re just saying “it’s wrong because it’s wrong,” which is a circular argument.

Degenerate means degrading society, at least in this case. So it's not circular as it's a truth claim (even if you want to argue its subjective) that is independent from the conclusion (a practice degrades society, therefore is bad).

What teens are you talking about? Like 19?

 

[Aladin]

Degenerate means degrading society, at least in this case. So it's not circular as it's a truth claim (even if you want to argue it’s subjective) that is independent from the conclusion (a practice degrades society, therefore is bad).

How does teenagers fucking each other not degrade society while an adult fucking a teen does?

 

[Archimedes]

How does teenagers fucking each other not degrade society while an adult fucking a teen does?

What teenagers are you referring to? Teenager goes from 13 to 19, so if you're introducing ambiguity about it, clarify.

 

[uksucks]

The older I get the more my hunger for JBs grows

Women my age are grandmas

 

[Aladin]

What teenagers are you referring to? Teenager goes from 13 to 19, so if you're introducing ambiguity about it, clarify.

14-17, since 14 is the legal age of consent in lots of European countries and Brazil.

How does teenagers fucking each other not degrade society while an adult fucking a teen does?

 

[Archimedes]

14-17, since 14 is the legal age of consent in lots of European countries and Brazil.

Ok so to answer your questions I don't think 14 year olds should be having sex with eachother, but it'd certainly be less degenerate to society because the kid wouldn't be traumatized, the parents wouldn't feel as disgusted by the fact their kid had sex with someone their own age than some faggot pedophile predating on their child, in general people wouldn't fear that faggots would be trying to have sex with their 8th graders.

Really, I don't see how your position is going to be that a society where adult men fuck 8th graders is better.

 

[The Grinch]

How does teenagers fucking each other not degrade society while an adult fucking a teen does?

Because an adult is in a position of power, while teenagers with each other are on the same level of maturidy. You try way too hard to justify your pedo tendencies, i’m sure you will act according to your fetish one day. Just make sure to not pick up the soap when you‘re in the prison shower

 

[Defeatist]

I was speaking on sex with teens which is not pedophilia.

Also, degenerate just means morally wrong, so you’re just saying “it’s wrong because it’s wrong,” which is a circular argument.

Is it wrong for a father to teach his son

I don’t think so

 

[Aladin]

Ok so to answer your questions I don't think 14 year olds should be having sex with eachother,

This is at least somewhat reasonable.

but it'd certainly be less degenerate to society because the kid wouldn't be traumatized

This is bullshit.

the parents wouldn't feel as disgusted by the fact their kid had sex with someone their own age than some faggot pedophile predating on their child,

This is a lot based on conditioning but also no one makes this argument.

Really, I don't see how your position is going to be that a society where adult men fuck 8th graders is better.

more knowledge on safe sex.

 

[MentalistKebab]

Main reason this retards thinks age gap relationships has "manipulation thus rape" is because they cant imagine women having sexual desires apart from how guys treats them.

They dont realize younger females can consent to sex that is only about fucking, because they never been desired like that.

They can understand young males having these desires tho, so female teachers who have sex with their male students goes unpunished.

 

[Archimedes]

This is at least somewhat reasonable.

This is bullshit.


This is a lot based on conditioning but also no one makes this argument.

more knowledge on safe sex.

Yeah lets just be real here you have no argument.

Also nah it isn't conditioning, its that we instinctually recognize predators as degenerates who should be removed from the tribe.

 

[Paul7]

Because an adult is in a position of power, while teenagers with each other are on the same level of maturidy. You try way too hard to justify your pedo tendencies, i’m sure you will act according to your fetish one day. Just make sure to not pick up the soap when you‘re in the prison shower

why are power imbalances bad? Are you a feminist?

 

[Aladin]

Because an adult is in a position of power, while teenagers with each other are on the same level of maturidy.

Did you read the thread? The teenager is saying the same thing as the adult is.

 

[Aladin]

Yeah lets just be real here you have no argument.

Also nah it isn't conditioning, its that we instinctually recognize predators as degenerates who should be removed from the tribe.

It is 100% conditioning because in the past it was normalized for men over 20 to be attracted to teens.

 

[Archimedes]

Because an adult is in a position of power, while teenagers with each other are on the same level of maturidy. You try way too hard to justify your pedo tendencies, i’m sure you will act according to your fetish one day. Just make sure to not pick up the soap when you‘re in the prison shower

But uhm its just, like, sexual intercourse, man. Why are you so uptight?

 

[Aladin]

i’m sure you will act according to your fetish one day. Just make sure to not pick up the soap when you‘re in the prison shower

Btw you’re a faggot to be fantasizing about this.

 

[Latinolooksmaxxer]

anti-agegap hysteria is just part of the anti-straight sex psyop aimed to reduce birthrates

agecucks arent content just with treating 16, 17 year old teenage females like toddlers, they go on bashing agegaps between legal adults as well

saw a facebook post with a lot of soynormies bashing an arab girl for posting an image with two couples, a 19 year old woman with a 26 year old guy and a 21 year old foid with a 30 year old guy calling it 'creepy' and 'weird'

 

[Aladin]

anti-agegap hysteria is just part of the anti-straight sex psyop aimed to reduce birthrates

Bingo. Also because people think sex with 17 year olds is wrong they can shame sex with 18-24 aged women with a rich older man.

 

[The Grinch]

But uhm its just, like, sexual intercourse, man. Why are you so uptight?

Nothing to do with what i said, pedo

 

[Aladin]

Is it wrong for a father to teach his son

I don’t think so

Is it wrong for a teenager to use words that an adult would.

 

[Defeatist]

Is it wrong for a teenager to use words that an adult would.

In a way

Yea , it’s a sign of a degrading society that doesn’t educate its children good enough

 

[klip11]

anti-agegap hysteria is just part of the anti-straight sex psyop aimed to reduce birthrates

agecucks arent content just with treating 16, 17 year old teenage females like toddlers, they go on bashing agegaps between legal adults as well

saw a facebook post with a lot of soynormies bashing an arab girl for posting an image with two couples, a 19 year old woman with a 26 year old guy and a 21 year old foid with a 30 year old guy calling it 'creepy' and 'weird'

 

[AverageTevvezFan]

@The Grinch
I am interested in what you make of scenarios where it is the younger woman seeking out older men. I know women who at 16 would go on holiday and lie to 18+ guys at clubs about their age to have sex with them. I doubt you would call this wrong from the men’s point of view.

I’m sure some of the men knew they were lying though. Would it be wrong then? Given the situation was initated by the younger woman, and would never have happened otherwise.

Also fyi, paedophilia is attraction to prepubescent children. 14-17 doesn’t fall under that range, a man who is attracted to them is called an “Ephebophile” meaning “One attracted to adolescents”

 

[Shkreliii]

A common argument is that an adult can easily manipulate a teenager into sex, and thus an adult fucking the teenager is wrong. Manipulation occurs by saying certain things to influence someone to act a certain way, in this case sex.

If a teenage boy goes to an adult to ask for help on getting girls, and the adult tells him what to say, is the teenager manipulating the teenage girl into sex, and is it also unethical since he just said the same shit the adult would have said?

yes, i dont support anything below 16.
but seriously
kids aint retarded.
when a 16 yr old chick wants to fuck the cool 22 year old theyll do it.

ITS ONLY AFTER BEING MANIPULATED THAT ITS WRONG
(when they become famous for fucking an old famous person)
only then do they feel guilt

 

[asdvek]

why are u even arguing abt this
like the argument "muhh can i fuck jbs bro" is pointless
because none of u will get near a teenager girl

 

[The Grinch]

@The Grinch
I am interested in what you make of scenarios where it is the younger woman seeking out older men. I know women who at 16 would go on holiday and lie to 18+ guys at clubs about their age to have sex with them. I doubt you would call this wrong from the men’s point of view.

I’m sure some of the men knew they were lying though. Would it be wrong then? Given the situation was initated by the younger woman, and would never have happened otherwise.

It doesn’t matter who seeked out who. You can’t excuse it by saying "but she approached me first, so it‘s ok to fuck someone who is clearly far below my level of maturidy“. It’s like saying, "why do I get punished for selling drugs to a junkie, the junkie came up to me and asked for it“, try saying that in front of a judge and see what happens.

Also fyi, paedophilia is attraction to prepubescent children. 14-17 doesn’t fall under that range, a man who is attracted to them is called an “Ephebophile” meaning “One attracted to adolescents”

Everyone knows the difference between a child and a teenager, this is not news. The thing is that everyone knows the reason why you prefer teenagers and it’s not because they are better looking, it‘s their naivety and lack of life experience that you like, because you know they are easy to fool. You know you could never get a grown woman to fuck with you, because they are smart and smart women don’t date losers, so you go for the ones you know are easy to manipulate. A man or a woman with such a mentality is a predator, and a danger to children

 

[klip11]

anti-agegap hysteria is just part of the anti-straight sex psyop aimed to reduce birthrates

agecucks arent content just with treating 16, 17 year old teenage females like toddlers, they go on bashing agegaps between legal adults as well

saw a facebook post with a lot of soynormies bashing an arab girl for posting an image with two couples, a 19 year old woman with a 26 year old guy and a 21 year old foid with a 30 year old guy calling it 'creepy' and 'weird'

Nothing wrong with having sex with a 16-19 year old. 14-15 might be more of a gray area. Pay age cucks no mind. But, you should follow the age of consent laws in your area. In my state, the age of consent is 16, so if you're in my state, for legal reasons, don't go below 16. If 18 is the age of consent in your state, then don't go below 18.

 

[CD34]

A common argument is that an adult can easily manipulate a teenager into sex, and thus an adult fucking the teenager is wrong. Manipulation occurs by saying certain things to influence someone to act a certain way, in this case sex.

If a teenage boy goes to an adult to ask for help on getting girls, and the adult tells him what to say, is the teenager manipulating the teenage girl into sex, and is it also unethical since he just said the same shit the adult would have said?

Most women have an Electra complex and are attracted to a father figure like man

 

[Deleted member 101201]

If a teenage boy goes to an adult to ask for help on getting girls, and the adult tells him what to say, is the teenager manipulating the teenage girl into sex, and is it also unethical since he just said the same shit the adult would have said?

You cant manipulate anyone into sex that's not a child

 

[klip11]

Everyone knows the difference between a child and a teenager, this is not news. The thing is that everyone knows the reason why you prefer teenagers and it’s not because they are better looking, it‘s their naivety and lack of life experience that you like, because you know they are easy to fool. You know you could never get a grown woman to fuck with you, because they are smart and smart women don’t date losers, so you go for the ones you know are easy to manipulate. A man or a woman with such a mentality is a predator, and a danger to children

 

[Paul7]

It doesn’t matter who seeked out who. You can’t excuse it by saying "but she approached me first, so it‘s ok to fuck someone who is clearly far below my level of maturidy“. It’s like saying, "why do I get punished for selling drugs to a junkie, the junkie came up to me and asked for it“, try saying that in front of a judge and see what happens.


Everyone knows the difference between a child and a teenager, this is not news. The thing is that everyone knows the reason why you prefer teenagers and it’s not because they are better looking, it‘s their naivety and lack of life experience that you like, because you know they are easy to fool. You know you could never get a grown woman to fuck with you, because they are smart and smart women don’t date losers, so you go for the ones you know are easy to manipulate. A man or a woman with such a mentality is a predator, and a danger to children

 

[incel-at-heart]

A common argument is that an adult can easily manipulate a teenager into sex, and thus an adult fucking the teenager is wrong. Manipulation occurs by saying certain things to influence someone to act a certain way, in this case sex.

If a teenage boy goes to an adult to ask for help on getting girls, and the adult tells him what to say, is the teenager manipulating the teenage girl into sex, and is it also unethical since he just said the same shit the adult would have said?

JB pussy was made for 30yo MEN

 

[incel-at-heart]

The thing is that everyone knows the reason why you prefer teenagers and it’s not because they are better looking, it‘s their naivety and lack of life experience that you like

What is this cope? Tell me with a straight face that a 30yo roastie is better looking than prime JB

 

[The Grinch]

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What is this cope? Tell me with a straight face that a 30yo roastie is better looking than prime JB

Seems like this angered you a lot. Let me anger you a little more

 

[incel-at-heart]

Seems like this angered you a lot. Let me anger you a little more

keep coping simp, my country's age of consent is 14

 

[klip11]

Seems like this angered you a lot. Let me anger you a little more

I never said to break any laws. I said there's nothing wrong with sex with a 16-19 year old and 14/15 can be more of a gray area. I also said in my post to follow whatever is the age of consent in your area for legal purposes.

Also, if you're seen as weak in prison, you will possibly get victimized. Regardless of your crime. The guy that Lamont Wilson tied up and raped and sold to other prisoners was doing time for theft. Not for any sex crime. In fact, nonviolent offenders are more likely to be victimized than violent offenders. If a rapist goes to prison and shows he can fight or will stab you, he will be respected and left alone.

 

[The Grinch]

If a rapist goes to prison and shows he can fight or will stab you, he will be respected and left alone.

Until he get’s catched alone and unprepared

 

[incel-at-heart]

Until he get’s catched alone and unprepared

Your simp revenge fantasies are insane. What do you stand to gain from them? You are unknowingly a feminist barkdog.

 

[The Grinch]

Your simp revenge fantasies are insane. What do you stand to gain from them? You are unknowingly a feminist barkdog.

Nothing to do with simp or feminism, weak comeback

 

[klip11]

Until he get’s catched alone and unprepared

That can apply to anyone for any crime

 

[The Grinch]

That can apply to anyone for any crime

If you can’t do the time, don’t do the crime