Question for atheists

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What do you think texts like the bible or Quran are? Do you really think someone just made them up? Why would anyone do that and how? Why are these revelatory texts so unique and full of wisdom? never seen atheists address this

 

[Darkstrand]

It's like when you type something in on Google the answer always is you have cancer, I guess whatever 'jesus' for example did or said they twisted and turned it until it fulfilled some prophecy

 

[Spartacus1-]

Atheists are low IQ

 

[Inline]

It's like when you type something in on Google the answer always is you have cancer, I guess whatever 'jesus' for example did or said they twisted and turned it until it fulfilled some prophecy

Why were there prophecies in the first place, why these inspired individuals have so much influence, and what is the origins of these texts

 

[Deleted member 5583]

Just like greek mythology, it's made up fiction. Let's assume it's not
Still filled with way too many logical contradictions and historical inconsistencies, only theist argument seems to be "yOu HaVe To BeLiEvE" and "everything that begins to exist but have a cause"

 

[Darkstrand]

Why were there prophecies in the first place, why these inspired individuals have so much influence, and what is the origins of these texts

I think in general religion just exists to explain things that weren't explainable at the time, think: storm = God punishes humans...

 

[Deleted member 5583]

Atheists are low IQ

Are you sure?

 

[Inline]

Just like greek mythology

Im not sure these are comparable. Many myths and tales existed in all civilizations but these texts are different in character

 

[Deleted member 4224]

These ancient books simply attempt to communicate the incommunicable, but have been idolized and adopted as an ideology which is how truth becomes perverted. God is real, but it's not what you think it is.

 

[Vermilioncore]

I don’t understand atheists tbh

 

[Inline]

These ancient books simply attempt to communicate the incommunicable, but have been idolized and adopted as an ideology, which is how all truth is perverted. God is real, but it's not what you think it is.

What is it then

 

[Deleted member 6400]

Atheists are low IQ

 

[Inline]

I think in general religion just exists to explain things that weren't explainable at the time, think: storm = God punishes humans...

I disagree its much more thn that

 

[Deleted member 5187]

Think it's a way to control and take lesser peoples money

 

[Darkstrand]

I disagree its much more thn that

What is it for you?

 

[Vidyacoper]

fuck if i know, maybe someone with very high social reputation in his community wrote the bible or maybe it was a crackhead
whatever their ulterior motive, there is no god

 

[Darkstrand]

Think it's a way to control and take lesser peoples money

Not sure if it was like this from the start, but that's definitely how it developed

 

[Deleted member 5187]

Not sure if it was like this from the start, but that's definitely how it developed

True probaly not the intention
But this been abused to control and take money

If God exist he shall judge me for who I was not how often or where I prayed

 

[Inline]

Think it's a way to control and take lesser peoples money

There are many ways to make money besides renouncing all wordly pursuits, writing a giant text full of literary genius, wisdom, guidelines etc which remain unmatched today since the time of their writing.

maybe it was a crackhead

do you really think a crackhead could write these texts

What is it for you?

Divinely inspired revelations

 

[Maxximilian]

Religion is power over the mass

 

[AutisticBeaner]

this book is also full of wisdom, does this mean it was created by a supernatural force?

"inventing" religion could have had many benefits. teaching everyone they'll go to hell if they kill other people prevents, well, people from killing each other. also if there are so many fundamentally different religions on earth then surely some of them have to be incorrect, right? who says that it's not yours?

 

[Inline]

Religion is power over the mass

Lol look at majority atheist western countries theire even more controlled and enslaved

 

[Deleted member 4224]

What is it then

Infinity. But realize whatever notion of infinity you have is not it. The mind will never grasp infinity. That's why it is incommunicable.

 

[Deleted member 6164]

The real question for atheists should be: how haven’t you offed yourselves yet?

 

[Deleted member 5187]

Whatever happens when I leave earth I'm gonna accepts it
For better, worse or nothing

 

[Maxximilian]

Lol look at majority atheist western countries theire even more controlled and enslaved

I disagree

 

[Inline]

this book is also full of wisdom, does this mean it was created by a supernatural force?

Yeah, God gave us both reasoning faculties and a rational, harmonic universe which are conditions for science

"inventing" religion could have had many benefits. teaching everyone they'll go to hell if they kill other people prevents, well, people from killing each other

Yeah but do you really think the people who wrote it had these pragmatic, machiavellian considerations in mind, specially considering the time these were written (axial age)? Very unlikely

also if there are so many fundamentally different religions on earth then surely some of them have to be incorrect, right? who says that it's not yours?

Some common themes run through all of them. And yeah, some are misguided. supernatural forces like demons are real and could have inspired such religions

 

[AutisticBeaner]

supernatural forces like demons are real

well how the fuck do you know that

 

[toth77]

if god exists and loves you why did he make u sub3 psl

 

[Entschuldigung]

There's isn't actually atheists just people that say they're

 

[jackthenerd]

Yes they just made up the Bible. Religion has been around for ages. Then someone decided to write it down. There you have the Bible.

 

[Gazzamogga]

haven't read the bible so can't answer

 

[Inline]

well how the fuck do you know that

Im pretty sure man many trustworthy people have mentioned experiences with them

Yes they just made up the Bible. Religion has been around for ages. Then someone decided to write it down. There you have the Bible.

But they originate from prophets not aural traditions

 

[Chico Chicowski]

jfl if u dont believe in gandy

 

[jackthenerd]

But they originate from prophets not aural traditions

Some poeple had immense amount of power back then, could just brainwash populations.

 

[AutisticBeaner]

Im pretty sure man many trustworthy people have mentioned experiences with them

you shouldn't even start argumentative posts like these at all if that's enough to convince you of something

 

[Inline]

jfl if u dont believe in gandy

Wdym

you shouldn't even start argumentative posts like these at all if that's enough to convince you of something

>you must have experienced everything you believe in personally

 

[Chico Chicowski]

Wdym

>you must have experienced everything you believe in personally

 

[HumidVent]

Humans are always evolving, primitive humans believe in religion, highly evolved humans are atheist.

And anyone with even slightly higher than dog tier logic should be able to see how all the Abrahamic religions are nonsense.

 

[Inline]

highly evolved humans are atheist

Yeah bro reddit must be the pinnacle of human development then lmao

dog tier logic

Muh facts and logic

 

[Deleted member 6164]

Im pretty sure man many trustworthy people have mentioned experiences with them

How could you believe in demons and not believe in God JFL

 

[TheMewingBBC]

What do you think texts like the bible or Quran are? Do you really think someone just made them up?

What are your thoughts on non Abrahamic religions like Buddhism and Hinduism. You believe in the abrahamic god right? So obviously you don’t believe in the deities of the two religions I’ve mentioned. So help me look through this chain of thought: you don’t believe in those very constructive religions so to you they can’t be true, so to you they’re made up as well, no? Right??

But both of those religion contains wisdom of their own, hell many broad theologians said that Buddhism is more in line with modern moral standards than any other religion. Morality is subjective mixed with common sense; the discussion of rules aimed to avoid physical and emotional harm to humans from others and for members society as a whole to benefit from it. Every civilization adheres to certain standards and evolve those standards overtime, religion was just the perfect foundation to hold these standards

But to answer your question why does Buddhism is filled with wisdom? Why would anyone teach that and lie to so many people? Ive never seen Abrahamic believers address this

 

[Inline]

How could you believe in demons and not believe in God JFL

I do believe in god

So obviously you don’t believe in the deities of the two religions i mentioned

They may exist im not sure im still learning

But to answer your question why does Buddhism is filled with wisdom?

Cus it applies some genuine spiritual principles