
NVM_Ignacio
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Did u see any noticeable change on bonemass while roiding? What else did u improve other than physique and at what doses?
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Yeah Ig that part would be a problem to me, cause Im 16yo and ppl already tell me I look 18-22 and thats not the best. What is your dose thoYes, hopped on test at 17. Skull bigger. Jaw is bigger. Basically just look a lot older and more masculine. People think i'm in my mid to late twenties even tho i'm 19.
I've ran multiple cycles. Started at 500mg test 200 mast. 2nd was 500 test 200 npp, only ran for 3-4 weeks cause npp made me psychotic. Then just 600 test as 3rd cycle for a few months. 4th cycle was 600mg test and 300eq which i finished a few months ago. Right now i'm only on 125mg test and 3IU of HGH.Yeah Ig that part would be a problem to me, cause Im 16yo and ppl already tell me I look 18-22 and thats not the best. What is your dose tho
Oh damn those are pretty big doses just for looksmaxxing. I might hop on 200-300 at most of test, now at 16yoI've ran multiple cycles. Started at 500mg test 200 mast. 2nd was 500 test 200 npp, only ran for 3-4 weeks cause npp made me psychotic. Then just 600 test as 3rd cycle for a few months. 4th cycle was 600mg test and 300eq which i finished a few months ago. Right now i'm only on 125mg test and 3IU of HGH.
For age related problems, running HGH and GHK-Cu will help. I unfortunately just hopped on those, so agepill might still hit me. But those will keep your face tight and youthful, providing skin texture as if it's a baby's ass.
I was bodybuilding at first, only got blackpilled after my second cycle. Main focus is looksmaxxing as of now, and i wouldn't run anything over 500mg test, simply due to the skin effects. You get acne, balding, skin looks like leather and old af. Also estrogenic as fuck, so you're bloated all the timeOh damn those are pretty big doses just for looksmaxxing. I might hop on 200-300 at most of test, now at 16yo
Yeah I know about that but they are really expensive, maybe when I get a job I will blast some
U think acne wont really be a problem at that dose if I barely have pimples off cycle?I was bodybuilding at first, only got blackpilled after my second cycle. Main focus is looksmaxxing as of now, and i wouldn't run anything over 500mg test, simply due to the skin effects. You get acne, balding, skin looks like leather and old af. Also estrogenic as fuck, so you're bloated all the time
At 200-300? Probably not, usually genetics are the biggest factor. When using test only, and being under 500mg, acne usually isn't that terrible. Acne is the worst when introducing steroids like tren or nppU think acne wont really be a problem at that dose if I barely have pimples off cycle?
Yea running mast was the problem masteron is gonna make you look 40 because of the dht, should’ve ran anavar still dht potent but not as muchI've ran multiple cycles. Started at 500mg test 200 mast. 2nd was 500 test 200 npp, only ran for 3-4 weeks cause npp made me psychotic. Then just 600 test as 3rd cycle for a few months. 4th cycle was 600mg test and 300eq which i finished a few months ago. Right now i'm only on 125mg test and 3IU of HGH.
For age related problems, running HGH and GHK-Cu will help. I unfortunately just hopped on those, so agepill might still hit me. But those will keep your face tight and youthful, providing skin texture as if it's a baby's ass.
No it doesn't work that way unfortunately. Neither mast nor anavar is comparable to bioidentical DHT. I look 40 due to high doses of testosterone, since testosterone actually 5alpha reduces into bioidentical DHT, which is androgenic as fuck and ages me. Oh and i've also ran 200mg of tren now that i remember, that definitely aged me the most by farYea running mast was the problem masteron is gonna make you look 40 because of the dht, should’ve ran anavar still dht potent but not as much
Npp causes acne how ??At 200-300? Probably not, usually genetics are the biggest factor. When using test only, and being under 500mg, acne usually isn't that terrible. Acne is the worst when introducing steroids like tren or npp
Uhhh because of shitloads of prolactin, E2, progesterone and androgenic load?? Like literally all roids can cause acne simply due to androgenic effect. That effect is massively increased when you’re also introducing shitloads of prolactin/progesterone/E2. It’s basically the same reason tren gives you acne, all 19-nors will rape your skinNpp causes acne how ??
Androgenic load with prolactin wtf ?????Uhhh because of shitloads of prolactin, E2, progesterone and androgenic load?? Like literally all roids can cause acne simply due to androgenic effect. That effect is massively increased when you’re also introducing shitloads of prolactin/progesterone/E2. It’s basically the same reason tren gives you acne, all 19-nors will rape your skin
Holy IQcel. PLEASE GO READ THE STUDIES THAT ANDROGENIC:ANABOLIC RATIOS COME FROM.Androgenic load with prolactin wtf ?????
Ana:andro ratios
Is 125:35 or something
U don't use caber and letro lolll
Tren androgenicity is way higher 12x more androgen lol(
U can literally nuke prolactin and e2
U comparing npp to tren lol
Npp:
125:35
Tren acts at the receptors as
500:500
First , I don't have redditHoly IQcel. PLEASE GO READ THE STUDIES THAT ANDROGENIC:ANABOLIC RATIOS COME FROM.
Actually so hilarious you’re trying to act high IQ and your citation is fucking anabolic:androgenic ratios. Guess what retard, i have read those fucking studies. They’re all made on rats or mice, measuring seminal vesicle growth and levator ani growth. Is that a thorough indicator for anabolism or androgenicity?? NO.
Actually caging so hard that you said “Tren acts at receptors as 500:500”. Like how dumb are you dude, get the fuck off reddit and read actual literature on this shit
How much did u run npp atNo it doesn't work that way unfortunately. Neither mast nor anavar is comparable to bioidentical DHT. I look 40 due to high doses of testosterone, since testosterone actually 5alpha reduces into bioidentical DHT, which is androgenic as fuck and ages me. Oh and i've also ran 200mg of tren now that i remember, that definitely aged me the most by far
Well i know you’re lying because you obviously thought it was applicable in humans. We cant use those fucking A:A for shit, and yet you’re trying to make a point with it. Show me a single fucking study where trenbolone causes 5 times more nitrogen retention than testosterone. You cannot, because it doesn’t and you’re low iq as fuck.A:A r in humans I meant tren scored way fuckin higher on rats or humans doesn't matter that much in this case
200mg. And why the fuck would i use letrozole to nuke my E2 when E2 is not only necessary for anabolic effect through IGF-1 but also neuroprotective. You’re actually retarded if you’re nuking E2 for no reason. USE DHT’s. Primo or masteron can mediate E2 so easily. Also i’ve had high E2 for like 6 weeks when i was on npp. Any other cycle i’ve got E2 in range because im not retarded and i use DHT’s instead of AI’s. I guess teenage retards like you don’t know any mechanisms other than AI’sHow much did u run npp at
Also ur retarded for saying a cycle made u bloated bc high e2
U never heard of letro the e2 nuker
5 alpha reductase on npp???Well i know you’re lying because you obviously thought it was applicable in humans. We cant use those fucking A:A for shit, and yet you’re trying to make a point with it. Show me a single fucking study where trenbolone causes 5 times more nitrogen retention than testosterone. You cannot, because it doesn’t and you’re low iq as fuck.
Also yes i don’t use caber, it’s dopaminergic and terrible for you. I use 300mg of P5P which keeps prolactin down. Also i don’t think i ever stated prolactin was the sole reason for acne but i guess you dont know shit so i’ll have to explain literally everything to you. 19-nors are progestigenic by nature, and that means they will upregulate the E2 receptor expression in your tissues. So even if your circulating E2 is in range, you will still be fucked. This is also why you see gyno 24/7 with 19-nors despite E2 being in range.
Also you’re completely retarded for saying npp isn’t androgenic asf. Try using a 5 alpha reductase inhibitor while on npp and watch your hairline fly away. You THINK npp isn’t androgenic, because it converts to DHN which is in fact a less androgenic metabolite. But nandrolone itself is very androgenic.
And i don’t even know why you’re arguing that tren and npp aren’t the exact same. I never said so dumbass, i said they were both 19-nor derivatives and progstogenic
If I used mast I would bald nigga I don't want to try200mg. And why the fuck would i use letrozole to nuke my E2 when E2 is not only necessary for anabolic effect through IGF-1 but also neuroprotective. You’re actually retarded if you’re nuking E2 for no reason. USE DHT’s. Primo or masteron can mediate E2 so easily. Also i’ve had high E2 for like 6 weeks when i was on npp. Any other cycle i’ve got E2 in range because im not retarded and i use DHT’s instead of AI’s. I guess teenage retards like you don’t know any mechanisms other than AI’s
Great so you’re not aware that nandrolone is able to be 5 alpha reduced into DHN. Do you even know that 5 alpha reductase is an enzyme? Go google it right now and come back and say sorry and admit you’re a retarded nigger.5 alpha reductase on npp???
Wtf is that it doesn't convert it's pure dht retarded nigga
Watch even Derek mpmd he says he never got hairloss from nandrolone even though he's prone to it
So u telling me if u used caber and fuckin letro u would still get gyno
The e2 receptor regulation in the tissue isn't that strong
Lol
Are ifbbs would be walking with grade 4 gyno retard
BLessing awoudibo or wtv that guy name is
Runs 2000mg of npp lol
And has no gyno and didn't get the gland removal
Great now it makes total sense that you’re like 15, i honestly thought you were a complete retard but maybe just a little bit retarded. And use equipoise for E2 management, it converts into E1 which will compete with E2 for the estrogen receptor and E1 is weaker so you get a lower estrogenic effect. Nuking your E2 with letrozole is so fucking retarded i honestly can’t believe you can be that dumbIf I used mast I would bald nigga I don't want to try
Also my growth plates are open and I want to keep them open for a long time (my bone age is 15.5_16)
Why do u say it causes acne lolGreat so you’re not aware that nandrolone is able to be 5 alpha reduced into DHN. Do you even know that 5 alpha reductase is an enzyme? Go google it right now and come back and say sorry and admit you’re a retarded nigger.
Also i was saying IF YOU BLOCK 5 alpha reductase, then you get hair loss from NPP, precisely because it’s not being converted into DHN which is a weaker androgen, so you’re not even understanding what i’m saying.
Also no, if you nuked your E2 you wouldn’t get gyno. But normal people with an IQ over 50 don’t nuke their E2 for no reason. And i never even said you would get gyno under any circumstance, i said it CAN occur due to upregulation of E2 receptors. You’re arguing against your own imagination.
like literally where the fuck did i say npp will always cause gyno under any circumstance?? Obviously you can fucking mediate it, you can mediate every symptom.
Eq will give me thick blood I can donate every 10 weeks maxGreat now it makes total sense that you’re like 15, i honestly thought you were a complete retard but maybe just a little bit retarded. And use equipoise for E2 management, it converts into E1 which will compete with E2 for the estrogen receptor and E1 is weaker so you get a lower estrogenic effect. Nuking your E2 with letrozole is so fucking retarded i honestly can’t believe you can be that dumb
Use baby aspirin and omega 3 megadose, it’s not that hard to mitigate. And you use EQ to mitigate high E2 from your test. Are you not roiding for muscle growth or what the fuck?Eq will give me thick blood I can donate every 10 weeks max
I am 16.
Why eq at 16 I only want height but I can't afford gh
In my country roids are way cheaper
Bruh wtf u want me to be a fuckin manlet to protect my Neuro shit wtf is thatGreat now it makes total sense that you’re like 15, i honestly thought you were a complete retard but maybe just a little bit retarded. And use equipoise for E2 management, it converts into E1 which will compete with E2 for the estrogen receptor and E1 is weaker so you get a lower estrogenic effect. Nuking your E2 with letrozole is so fucking retarded i honestly can’t believe you can be that dumb
No , height and igf_1Use baby aspirin and omega 3 megadose, it’s not that hard to mitigate. And you use EQ to mitigate high E2 from your test. Are you not roiding for muscle growth or what the fuck?
Ok you’re actually retardedNo , height and igf_1
My friend did it
He went from fuckin 175 to 190 cm
He did 1gm of test an alot of other compounds and 2.5mg letro eod
And t4 at thousands of mcg
I am big asf and bold is shit for muscleUse baby aspirin and omega 3 megadose, it’s not that hard to mitigate. And you use EQ to mitigate high E2 from your test. Are you not roiding for muscle growth or what the fuck?
Ur more retarded for using tren for muscleOk you’re actually retarded
Yeah just stop making any assumptions about gear, you know literally nothing. A little tip is, unless a roid has other pathways of anabolism, they ALL cause the same amount of nitrogen retention mg for mg. So no, EQ is not a weak roid. And npp or tren would both be so fucking retarded if you’re not competing. Like literally where are you getting this info from??? Whoever is telling you this wants you to die lolI am big asf and bold is shit for muscle
It only increases rbc
No fuckin huge strength gains or any other shit
The only valid shit if ur not competing is
Test (base )
Npp anavar tren (low dose)
TBol
Most of the other thing are way too risky and
Bold Is shit ik ppl that got a lot of problems from it
Iam not donating blood every fuckin 6_8 weeks in puberty
Npp isn't harsh as tren to put it in the same tierYeah just stop making any assumptions about gear, you know literally nothing. A little tip is, unless a roid has other pathways of anabolism, they ALL cause the same amount of nitrogen retention mg for mg. So no, EQ is not a weak roid. And npp or tren would both be so fucking retarded if you’re not competing. Like literally where are you getting this info from??? Whoever is telling you this wants you to die lol
This shit for height growth holy fucking cagefuel. You’re literally on higher doses than i’ve ever taken in my life and i actually use this shit for muscle growth. Who the fuck told you to do thisNpp isn't harsh as tren to put it in the same tier
Imma be running this
500 test
600npp if
Hcg 250iu 2_3x per week oct
Letro and fin (1.25mg Eod)
Caber (0.25mg 2x per week)
Liver support
Keep eye on BP
Donate blood
Take nebivol 1.25mg 2x daily or when needed
Go tell that to the fuckin paki guyYeah just stop making any assumptions about gear, you know literally nothing. A little tip is, unless a roid has other pathways of anabolism, they ALL cause the same amount of nitrogen retention mg for mg. So no, EQ is not a weak roid. And npp or tren would both be so fucking retarded if you’re not competing. Like literally where are you getting this info from??? Whoever is telling you this wants you to die lol
What roids to use for heightThis shit for height growth holy fucking cagefuel. You’re literally on higher doses than i’ve ever taken in my life and i actually use this shit for muscle growth. Who the fuck told you to do this
That was me at 15 like 9 months of training a d eating like 40gm of protein a dayView attachment 3715273Now shut your bitchass up. Also i used tren for 10 weeks like a year ago lol, i’m either on trt or 400 test 300EQ normally
what are you even talking about lolGo tell that to the fuckin paki guy
He's getting glazed and no one knows u bc ur a gymcell
Dude you have no clue what you're talking about, you can't even use the terms properly "Cause the same nitrogen" that doesn't mean anything. Causing nitrogen is literally incoherent, you don't know what the words mean.And no not all roids cause the same nitrogen
Where did i say that? And no they don't have the same anabolism pathway you fucking cretin, DO YOU NOT KNOW WHAT A GLUCOCORTICOID RECEPTOR ISUr saying that mast hold as much nitrogen as tren
Ur a complete retard
They both have the same anabolism pathway btw
Yeah so you're proving my point lol, you have no muscle on your body and you're like 140 pounds. I was 93kg in my physique picture, so yes i mog the fuck out of you.That was me at 15 like 9 months of training a d eating like 40gm of protein a day
Fuck ur self related I was 75kg at 15 at 5'8 leanwhat are you even talking about lol
Dude you have no clue what you're talking about, you can't even use the terms properly "Cause the same nitrogen" that doesn't mean anything. Causing nitrogen is literally incoherent, you don't know what the words mean.
Where did i say that? And no they don't have the same anabolism pathway you fucking cretin, DO YOU NOT KNOW WHAT A GLUCOCORTICOID RECEPTOR IS
Of course you don't, you're 12 years old and have done literally zero research into this shit. Shut the fuck up
Yeah so you're proving my point lol, you have no muscle on your body and you're like 140 pounds. I was 93kg in my physique picture, so yes i mog the fuck out of you.
If I had all ur fat I would he be 90kg too I can't fukcin see ur stomach not ur abs evenwhat are you even talking about lol
Dude you have no clue what you're talking about, you can't even use the terms properly "Cause the same nitrogen" that doesn't mean anything. Causing nitrogen is literally incoherent, you don't know what the words mean.
Where did i say that? And no they don't have the same anabolism pathway you fucking cretin, DO YOU NOT KNOW WHAT A GLUCOCORTICOID RECEPTOR IS
Of course you don't, you're 12 years old and have done literally zero research into this shit. Shut the fuck up
Yeah so you're proving my point lol, you have no muscle on your body and you're like 140 pounds. I was 93kg in my physique picture, so yes i mog the fuck out of you.
Look at that fat faceView attachment 3715273Now shut your bitchass up. Also i used tren for 10 weeks like a year ago lol, i’m either on trt or 400 test 300EQ normally
how many months did it take you to see jaw results?Yes, hopped on test at 17. Skull bigger. Jaw is bigger. Basically just look a lot older and more masculine. People think i'm in my mid to late twenties even tho i'm 19.
Ok now you're just coping lol, i literally have trap and shoulder veins, what are you smokingUr a fat piece of shit and weight men's nothing btw if u look like a homeless piece of shit
Hop on 2000mg dnp a day to fuckin loose it fat or kys
Coping so hard also i don't even have beard like wtfLook at that fat face
U mustn't remove the beard or u will fuckin sub5 instead of ltn
I would be embarrassed to even say that I train if I looked like u
Look at that fat face
U mustn't remove the beard or u will fuckin sub5 instead of ltn
I would be embarrassed to even say that I train if I looked like u
Blasting and proud too![]()
I honestly don't know if i got the jaw results from test itself, i can't say for sure. But it was probably like 6 months after hopping on test, where my jaw and skull looked noticeably different and more masculinized. Could have just been age though, since i was 17 afterallhow many months did it take you to see jaw results?
frame, height, face, lifestyle, inhibition. Everything has improved tbhDid u see any noticeable change on bonemass while roiding? What else did u improve other than physique and at what doses?
Show ur whole physique here u cherrypick parts of ur bodyView attachment 3724055cope harder boy jfl, imagine calling this physique fat just cause i mog you to oblivion
Cut that small facial hairOk now you're just coping lol, i literally have trap and shoulder veins, what are you smoking
Coping so hard also i don't even have beard like wtf
How much height and face before and after plz if u can ?frame, height, face, lifestyle, inhibition. Everything has improved tbh
not leaking my face since I wanna keep a good digital footprint but :How much height and face before and after plz if u can ?
What was ur cycle and how long did u run it for