Question for the Muslims here

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

Seeing as @MaghrebGator and @ManletBlackcel @zaideas wanna get clapped by the resident crusader general bane of the heathen heretic infidels @PrinceLuenLeoncur I’ll ask you a question

If the Quran is true then the bible is true and if that’s true the Quran is false for the bible contradicts and refutes the Quran. If the bible is false the Quran is false because it affirms the bible and god doesn’t make mistakes the core the Quran would have mistake and be false. Basically your fucked if you do and don’t

This is called the Islamic dilemma

The Islamic Dilemma is an argument presented by Christian apologists, notably Sam Shamoun and Jay Dyer, challenging the consistency of Islamic teachings regarding the Christian scriptures. The core of the dilemma is as follows:


1. Qur’anic Affirmation: The Qur’an acknowledges the Torah and the Gospel as genuine revelations from God.


2. Scriptural Integrity: The Qur’an suggests that these scriptures were preserved and unaltered at the time of its revelation.


3. Doctrinal Discrepancies: The teachings of the Torah and the Gospel, particularly concerning the nature of God and Jesus, differ from Islamic doctrines.





This leads to a perceived contradiction: if the earlier scriptures are authentic and uncorrupted, their doctrinal differences with the Qur’an pose a challenge to the Qur’an’s validity.

But here’s the catch for Muslims…

Your book confirms my book 5:46-47 (isa confirims Torah and Injeel) 3:3 (confirming what came before Torah and gospel so we Christian supposedly can look to what came before to validate Quran)

2:89(Old testament confirming the Quran)

2:91-3(hold firmly to the securities [torah])

It’s over for you and no it cannot be corrupted because 61:8(they seek to distinguish Allahs light with mouths but fail) and 18:27 (Allahs word cannot be changed)

So the Bible cannot be corrupted but let’s say it’s lost you may say? Well nope won’t cut it because


CRIBED FROM BIBLE
Sura 21:105: And We have already written in the book [of Psalms] after the [previous mention that the land [of Paradise] is inherited by My righteous servants. psalm 37:29


Sura 5:45 (life for life nose for nose tooth for tooth wounds)



Exidus 21:23-25 life for life eye for eye tooth for tooth)

So your book CRIBS from mine proving mine is legit and I don’t even have to bring up the Codex Sinaticus, Vacticanus or Alexadrius or Dead Sea scrolls I can use your stupid book to confirm mine but you know what mine says about Islam and Mohammed?







PROOF BIBLE DISENVOWS QURAN;
Galatians 1:8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed.



Corinthians 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
Matthew 7:15-20

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

@Thebuffdon @PsychoH I didn’t wanna make this thread but they pushed me to it via being cunts on the other thread. It’s a TLDR I know but had to be done to humiliate these 3 niggas I tagged.

 

[Thebuffdon]

Bump, will read later

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

Bump, will read later

I didn’t even wanna do this tbh I can’t be srsed debating religion today but I had to put my foot down cos those 2 geezers kept coming at me on the other thread I have to humble the heathens. Remind them of their place

 

[MaghrebGator]

Seeing as @MaghrebGator and @ManletBlackcel @zaideas wanna get clapped by the resident crusader general bane of the heathen heretic infidels @PrinceLuenLeoncur I’ll ask you a question

If the Quran is true then the bible is true and if that’s true the Quran is false for the bible contradicts and refutes the Quran. If the bible is false the Quran is false because it affirms the bible and god doesn’t make mistakes the core the Quran would have mistake and be false. Basically your fucked if you do and don’t

This is called the Islamic dilemma

The Islamic Dilemma is an argument presented by Christian apologists, notably Sam Shamoun and Jay Dyer, challenging the consistency of Islamic teachings regarding the Christian scriptures. The core of the dilemma is as follows:


1. Qur’anic Affirmation: The Qur’an acknowledges the Torah and the Gospel as genuine revelations from God.


2. Scriptural Integrity: The Qur’an suggests that these scriptures were preserved and unaltered at the time of its revelation.


3. Doctrinal Discrepancies: The teachings of the Torah and the Gospel, particularly concerning the nature of God and Jesus, differ from Islamic doctrines.





This leads to a perceived contradiction: if the earlier scriptures are authentic and uncorrupted, their doctrinal differences with the Qur’an pose a challenge to the Qur’an’s validity.

But here’s the catch for Muslims…

Your book confirms my book 5:46-47 (isa confirims Torah and Injeel) 3:3 (confirming what came before Torah and gospel so we Christian supposedly can look to what came before to validate Quran)

2:89(Old testament confirming the Quran)

2:91-3(hold firmly to the securities [torah])

It’s over for you and no it cannot be corrupted because 61:8(they seek to distinguish Allahs light with mouths but fail) and 18:27 (Allahs word cannot be changed)

So the Bible cannot be corrupted but let’s say it’s lost you may say? Well nope won’t cut it because


CRIBED FROM BIBLE
Sura 21:105: And We have already written in the book [of Psalms] after the [previous mention that the land [of Paradise] is inherited by My righteous servants. psalm 37:29


Sura 5:45 (life for life nose for nose tooth for tooth wounds)



Exidus 21:23-25 life for life eye for eye tooth for tooth)

So your book CRIBS from mine proving mine is legit and I don’t even have to bring up the Codex Sinaticus, Vacticanus or Alexadrius or Dead Sea scrolls I can use your stupid book to confirm mine but you know what mine says about Islam and Mohammed?







PROOF BIBLE DISENVOWS QURAN;
Galatians 1:8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed.



Corinthians 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
Matthew 7:15-20

I answered this entire talking point verse by verse, to you specifically previously. You just acted as if nothing was said and switched your goal posts as usual (Because of your clear lack of knowledge outside of copying and pasting from diverse unreliable sources financed by specific interests), and i'm guessing you have straight forgotten about it because it's pretty much clear you have zero interest on learning, to you this is no more than a Barcelona vs Madrid and a dick lenght competition

Here the thread and specific response (It's a long one but for everyone interested just scroll a bit down and you will find it), verse by verse, addressing everything and basically destroying every usual, reused and recycled orientalist claim

Why do Muslims conflate essense and person to be the same thing?

Genuinely perplexing race of beings these lot are. My buddy couldn’t seem to reconsile that WHAT you are isn’t the same as WHO you are I can’t even explain it using counting by identity vs division because he doesn’t know such things but the category of god is counted by division in the sense...

looksmax.org

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

I answered this entire talking point verse by verse, to you specifically previously. You just acted as if nothing was said and switched your goal posts as usual (Because of your clear lack of knowledge outside of copying and pasting from diverse unreliable sources financed by specific interests), and i'm guessing you have straight forgotten about it because it's pretty much clear you have zero interest on learning, to you this is no more than a Barcelona vs Madrid and a dick lenght competition

Here the thread and specific response (It's a long one but for everyone interested just scroll a bit down and you will find it), verse by verse, addressing everything and basically destroying every usual, reused and recycled orientalist claim

Why do Muslims conflate essense and person to be the same thing?

Genuinely perplexing race of beings these lot are. My buddy couldn’t seem to reconsile that WHAT you are isn’t the same as WHO you are I can’t even explain it using counting by identity vs division because he doesn’t know such things but the category of god is counted by division in the sense...

looksmax.org

Can you just copy and paste the specific response to this plz

I ain’t reading that entire thread again. Just copy it here and I’ll reply as need be. Also I wrote that all down it’s not copied those are in my own words. Unless you consider copy and pasting your OWN WORK as copying.

But for anybody wanting to see Muslims buckle under this question here’s a few vids to help you chuckle
This one is my fav

Jay dyer is hilarious and watch the Muslims being unable to respond

YouTube

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[MaghrebGator]

Can you just copy and paste the specific response to this plz

I ain’t reading that entire thread again. Just copy it here and I’ll reply as need be.

The specific answer on that old thread was to you speaking about the same exact issue, and it does not befit the lion to follow orders from the monkey.

Funny enough, you just skipped everything i said on that thread and specific tagged comment and just went on to scream "Hahah hey look i will make the last comment acting as if nothing was said while switching subjects with barely addressing anything, and i will pray to a crucified idol so that no one reads what this guy wrote reaffirming his beliefs and destroying mine point by point, verse by verse, therefore i won because huh... i made the last comment!!"

Right now you are just pretty much throwing a tantrum, which is frankly your only resource once you scratch a bit. You can trick 2 or 3 incels who haven't opened a book in their entire lives apart from the ones in which they had to colour plants and animals, but someone like me who is well versed in these matters can easily spot the lies and lack of consistency to fill the gigantic gaps of knowledge you have by just checking the vast difference (In many fields, whether pure religious knowledge or grammar, structure and writing) between a comment you write yourself and one you straight got from somewhere else.

Now i don't only invite anyone interested to read the comment, i invite them to read the entire thread and check the veracity of every single word i wrote in this comment. It doesn’t take a genius.

Why do Muslims conflate essense and person to be the same thing?

Genuinely perplexing race of beings these lot are. My buddy couldn’t seem to reconsile that WHAT you are isn’t the same as WHO you are I can’t even explain it using counting by identity vs division because he doesn’t know such things but the category of god is counted by division in the sense...

looksmax.org

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

The specific answer on that old thread was to you speaking about the same exact issue, and it does not befit the lion to follow orders from the monkey.

Funny enough, you just skipped everything i said on that thread and specific tagged comment and just went on to scream "Hahah hey look i will make the last comment acting as if nothing was said while switching subjects with barely addressing anything, and i will pray to a crucified idol so that no one reads what this guy wrote reaffirming his beliefs and destroying mine point by point, verse by verse, therefore i won because huh... i made the last comment!!"

Right now you are just pretty much throwing a tantrum, which is frankly your only resource once you scratch a bit. You can trick 2 or 3 incels who haven't opened a book in their entire lives apart from the ones in which they had to colour plants and animals, but someone like me who is well versed in these matters can easily spot the lies and lack of consistency to fill the gigantic gaps of knowledge you have by just checking the vast difference (In many fields, whether pure religious knowledge or grammar, structure and writing) between a comment you write yourself and one you straight got from somewhere else.

Now i don't only invite anyone interested to read the comment, i invite them to read the entire thread and check the veracity of every single word i wrote in this comment. It doesn’t take a genius.

Why do Muslims conflate essense and person to be the same thing?

Genuinely perplexing race of beings these lot are. My buddy couldn’t seem to reconsile that WHAT you are isn’t the same as WHO you are I can’t even explain it using counting by identity vs division because he doesn’t know such things but the category of god is counted by division in the sense...

looksmax.org

You are no lion

Your a Mohammeden which makes you the prey for you are an heathen and your GOD isn’t real

Brother…. Please stop with the ad hominem, I didn’t reply to that comment because I wanted that thread to die hence why I REPLIED on a new thread (THIS ONE) and tagged you and that other guy so you both can bring your shit here

But honestly I find Mohammedens suck at defending Islam that’s why I go on the attack on you fucks and will always put you guys on the defencive.

So answer my question, HOW CAN U RECONCILE THE ISLAMIC DILEMA I won’t answer any question until you can destroy this point until then nah you get 0 from me son

 

[Thebuffdon]

You are no lion

Your a Mohammeden which makes you the prey for you are an heathen and your GOD isn’t real

Brother…. Please stop with the ad hominem, I didn’t reply to that comment because I wanted that thread to die hence why I REPLIED on a new thread (THIS ONE) and tagged you and that other guy so you both can bring your shit here

But honestly I find Mohammedens suck at defending Islam that’s why I go on the attack on you fucks and will always put you guys on the defencive.

So answer my question, HOW CAN U RECONCILE THE ISLAMIC DILEMA I won’t answer any question until you can destroy this point until then nah you get 0 from me son

All they have up their sleeve is ad hominem . And it works for them because the entire ummah is fucking retarded.

@MaghrebGator like I’ve always said, you believe in Jannah I accept that. Just make sure when you are there you fuck the Hoor doggy style so that they can’t see your subhuman face, after all they are divine stacies and you’re a stinky 7th century barbarian with a hyper sexual pedophile as his moral idol, so it makes sense right?