Quran says Jesus is God

[BigBiceps]

Quran says Jesus created living birds from clay by breathing into them. Quran says Jesus raised people from the death. Which prophet ever did such deeds? Only God did, such as when in the Bible God created Adam, he molded Adam from clay and breathed life into him.

Surah Ali 'Imran 49-50 - and ˹make him˺ a messenger to the Children of Israel ˹to proclaim,˺ ‘I have come to you with a sign from your Lord: I will make for you a bird from clay, breathe into it, and it will become a ˹real˺ bird—by Allah’s Will. I will heal the blind and the leper and raise the dead to life—by Allah’s Will. And I will prophesize what you eat and store in your houses. Surely in this is a sign for you if you ˹truly˺ believe.

 

[Btard]

quran was literally inspired by the bible. it was written 600 years after by some king who claimed to speak to god. And God told him to sleep with a 9 year old.

 

[Vermilioncore]

The great I Am.


Weep not for I am set free

 

[War_In_Chiraq]

 

[Basedman420]

*IN ALLAH'S WILL* its obv

 

[Betterthanher]

quran was literally inspired by the bible. it was written 600 years after by some king who claimed to speak to god. And God told him to sleep with a 9 year old.

yikes a lot of islam hate, are you perchance curry

 

[Btard]

yikes a lot of islam hate, are you perchance curry

yes

 

[Betterthanher]

yes

sigh such propoganda built on you

 

[BigBiceps]

*IN ALLAH'S WILL* its obv

Muhammad: sooo everyone in Middle East basicly knows this guy is the son of God... so just let's just rewrite everything he did with ''in Allah's will'' because the evil spirit that attacked me in a cave commands so

 

[Basedman420]

Muhammad: sooo everyone in Middle East basicly knows this guy is the son of God... so just let's just rewrite everything he did with ''in Allah's will'' because the evil spirit that attacked me in a cave commands so

what you say doesn't make any sense retard

 

[BigBiceps]

what you say doesn't make any sense retard

Quran isn't real, Bible is

 

[shia.jihadist]

jfl if Muhammad ﷺ was tryna make a new religion where jesus isnt god why would he write that in the quran

 

[Btard]

sigh such propoganda built on you

Wdym propoganda, it's written in the quran.

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

*IN ALLAH'S WILL* its obv

All Jesus did was by gods will…

Allah is the only creator.


Jesus also creates

Allah permits Jesus to create life but that doesn’t mean that Jesus never had the power to create life just that he wasn’t allowed to use his abilities

 

[BigBiceps]

jfl if Muhammad ﷺ was tryna make a new religion where jesus isnt god why would he write that in the quran

Because Middle East was already heavily christianized by 600s. Not only Eastern Roman territories, which were Syria, Egypt, Palestine, Turkey etc. but beyond that in Sasanid territories like Iraq, and even in Arabia. He had to make concessions, because people knew that Jesus did these things. Muhammad also took praying 5 times a day from the Zoroastrians, which was Persias main faith during his time and continued to be at least 500 years after muslims took over. People had their traditions and faiths and wouldn't just swallow anything, unless it was very carefully crafted in to a new belief system.

 

[Basedman420]

All Jesus did was by gods will…

Allah is the only creator.


Jesus also creates

Allah permits Jesus to create life but that doesn’t mean that Jesus never had the power to create life just that he wasn’t allowed to use his abilities

If he had the power on his own, he wouldn’t need Allah's permission

 

[shia.jihadist]

Because Middle East was already heavily christianized by 600s. Not only Eastern Roman territories, which were Syria, Egypt, Palestine, Turkey etc. but beyond that in Sasanid territories like Iraq, and even in Arabia. He had to make concessions, because people knew that Jesus did these things. Muhammad also took praying 5 times a day from the Zoroastrians, which was Persias main faith during his time and continued to be at least 500 years after muslims took over. People had their traditions and faiths and wouldn't just swallow anything, unless it was very carefully crafted in to a new belief system.

or maybe Allah let Jesus do that just like he let Muhammad ﷺ split the moon in half and be able to see behind himself

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

If he had the power on his own, he wouldn’t need Allah's permission

No he needed Allahs permission to actualise his power, nowhere in the verse does it state that isa didn’t already have the innate ability to actualise such an thing jsut that he has to conform to the will of Allah and thus when Allah wanted him to do it Jesus used his power to do it


Now Islam has 2 creators mashallah shirk is indeed Islam akhiiiii

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

or maybe Allah let Jesus do that just like he let Muhammad ﷺ split the moon in half and be able to see behind himself

No way you believe thag stupid Hadith

 

[BigBiceps]

or maybe Allah let Jesus do that just like he let Muhammad ﷺ split the moon in half and be able to see behind himself

Funny how the moon was split in half but nobody else recorded it except Muhammad's homies. That'd be global event visible just as well in Africa, Europe, Asia etc. but nobody saw it. Meanwhile Jesus' miracles were acknowledged even by the pharisees, the forefathers of modern day Jews. They claimed he was a sorcerer, because nobody could do these things, but could not understand that it was God right in front of them, just as today muslims know Jesus did Godly things, but refuse to comprehend his divine nature, but cling onto Muhammad, who never did one proven miracle, but instead pridefully demanded Roman Emperor and Shahs of Persia submit to him without any proof for his words. Even the early military victories which many muslims take as this proof were not as impressive, if you knew that the Persians and Romans had fought for 30 years before the muslim threat emerged, and both empires had practically collapsed due to these wars. This is like Vietnamese rice farmers beating the French after WW2. They were not blessed by God, the French were just weak.

 

[Basedman420]

No he needed Allahs permission to actualise his power, nowhere in the verse does it state that isa didn’t already have the innate ability to actualise such an thing jsut that he has to conform to the will of Allah and thus when Allah wanted him to do it Jesus used his power to do it


Now Islam has 2 creators mashallah shirk is indeed Islam akhiiiii

begging the question fallacy, there's no prove that jesus had that power without Allah's permission

 

[Basedman420]

Funny how the moon was split in half but nobody else recorded it except Muhammad's homies. That'd be global event visible just as well in Africa, Europe, Asia etc. but nobody saw it. Meanwhile Jesus' miracles were acknowledged even by the pharisees, the forefathers of modern day Jews. They claimed he was a sorcerer, because nobody could do these things, but could not understand that it was God right in front of them, just as today muslims know Jesus did Godly things, but refuse to comprehend his divine nature, but cling onto Muhammad, who never did one proven miracle, but instead pridefully demanded Roman Emperor and Shahs of Persia submit to him without any proof for his words. Even the early military victories which many muslims take as this proof were not as impressive, if you knew that the Persians and Romans had fought for 30 years before the muslim threat emerged, and both empires had practically collapsed due to these wars. This is like Vietnamese rice farmers beating the French after WW2. They were not blessed by God, the French were just weak.

moses turn his stick into a living thing (snake) now make him a God

 

[BigBiceps]

begging the question fallacy, there's no prove that jesus had that power without Allah's permission

What we do know though, is that Muhammad had no power and Jesus did deeds no prophet ever did. Moon was not split in half nor did he ride a unicorn. It's bogus. Also there is just one version of Quran (no contradictions), because Caliph Umar chose one version and burned and banned all others.

 

[Ultimate Subhuman™]

jfl if Muhammad ﷺ was tryna make a new religion where jesus isnt god why would he write that in the quran

Shia = Kaffir

 

[BigBiceps]

moses turn his stick into a living thing (snake) now make him a God

Moses's remains - not found (in heaven)
Jesus's remains - not found (in heaven)

Muhammad's remains:

 

[Basedman420]

Moses's remains - not found (in heaven)
Jesus's remains - not found (in heaven)

Muhammad's remains:

so what's your point?

 

[BigBiceps]

so what's your point?

Moses throwing the stick was more of a party trick to convince Pharaoh. Jesus did countless miracles and told the people he helped to not tell others about it.
Quran is also story which is told by one man, Bible is told by many, many men and contains 340 000 cross references. Something that would be IMPOSSIBLE to just create out of thin air as a story of fiction. Christians were persecuted and were willing to die in early Roman Empire for their faith. 11 of the 12 original disciples died a violent death. Have you EVER heard of anyone who would be willing to die for just a lie? They could've lived if they had just worshipped Caesar, but they did not.

 

[Basedman420]

Moses throwing the stick was more of a party trick to convince Pharaoh. Jesus did countless miracles and told the people he helped to not tell others about it.
Quran is also story which is told by one man, Bible is told by many, many men and contains 340 000 cross references. Something that would be IMPOSSIBLE to just create out of thin air as a story of fiction. Christians were persecuted and were willing to die in early Roman Empire for their faith. 11 of the 12 original disciples died a violent death. Have you EVER heard of anyone who would be willing to die for just a lie? They could've lived if they had just worshipped Caesar, but they did not.

so? there's many aethist who get killed by the church because of their beliefs, your points are weak tbh

 

[lifeless]

oh hey youre abck

 

[recai iskender]

I thought this would be some high iq shit but this nigga just showed miracles

 

[neurosis]

nigga its been half a decade

why are you still arguing about religion on an incel forum

 

[Sonneillon]

Quran says Jesus created living birds from clay by breathing into them. Quran says Jesus raised people from the death. Which prophet ever did such deeds? Only God did, such as when in the Bible God created Adam, he molded Adam from clay and breathed life into him.

Surah Ali 'Imran 49-50 - and ˹make him˺ a messenger to the Children of Israel ˹to proclaim,˺ ‘I have come to you with a sign from your Lord: I will make for you a bird from clay, breathe into it, and it will become a ˹real˺ bird—by Allah’s Will. I will heal the blind and the leper and raise the dead to life—by Allah’s Will. And I will prophesize what you eat and store in your houses. Surely in this is a sign for you if you ˹truly˺ believe.

Both which are fairytales

 

[Sonneillon]

Quran isn't real, Bible is

Bible is just sumerian and egyptian tales

 

[BigBiceps]

nigga its been half a decade

why are you still arguing about religion on an incel forum

Have you spent more or less than half a decade browsing internet forums?