Rank theory of depression and hierarchy primatology

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It seems to me that this is at the very least related with sissyology and AGP/MEF, yet I never see anyone here discuss it? The mammalian brain is highly sensitive to socio-sexual hierarchy, and copulatory role identification seems to somehow be tied up into this mechanism. Mounting behavior, social defeat, prostate and perineal sensory feedback... all of these things are highly conserved and neurologically salient from primative hierarchy dynamics. To illustrate, I came upon a paper with Golden Snub-Nosed Monkeys observing male-male mounting behavior. It is almost universally always the dominant primate doing the mounting, and the subordinates respond with appeasement behaviors (presenting their hindquarters, cowering, grooming, etc). In some cases, the dominant primate will insert it's penis into the subordinates rectum (known as intromission), and in some cases there will be intromission, thrusting, and ejaculation. In one noteworthy case, one of the adolescent males was observed being mounted by an adult, which involved intromission and thrusting. After the dominant primate left his presence, the adolescent male was photographed ejaculating (emission) without any stimulation of it's own penis while sitting down.

This, to my brain, appears to have been a photographed evidence of a sissygasm in a primate after a social hierarchy event, occuring in response to dominance awe, prostate stimulation, and extremely salient neurological feelings of hierarchy subordinance. If anyone wants to dig up the photo it is eerily extremely uncanny to look at, almost as if many of us can empathize with what the monkey feels at that moment. One could imagine that a subordinate being mounted and thrust into, feeling primative hierarchy shame, then experiencing themselves inexplicably ejaculating afterwards; obviously that would have a powerful social effect on the primate social interactions with that alpha, as well as their role within the group. One consequence of mounting & hierarchy defeat is the involuntary compulsion for the subordinate to display its hindquarters in the presence of the dominant, how embarassing. Sensorimotor feedback and pudendal nerve pathways are of interest, as well as various cortical structures. I hypothesize that the neurological networks underpinning these mechanisms might be correlated more than we realize with the entire trans identity, AGP, MEF, etc. The brain is literally tuned to perceive and react to hierarchy on a bioligical (even hormonal level). For example, social defeat lowers testosterone, and chronic stress (humiliation, hierarchy defeat) will suppress testosterone via cortisols influence on the HPG axis.

What triggered this line of research was the personal subjective experience that something occurred within my body after I was sexually assaulted, and I couldnt understand why the human body would evolve a prostate that lights up like a christmas tree at the thought of your abuser or hierarchy rival. What evolutionary adaptation could that possibly serve? Imagine how a human organism might feel in an abstract world, if our society allowed for your bully or rival to walk up to you in front of your friends and family, anally penetrate you, and then everyone witnessing you involuntarily ejaculating afterwards. Imagine what kind of impact that might have on the social behavior of the penetrated human. This is essentially what occurs in nature. I suspect that this mechanism is more biologically conserved, salient, and implicated in more processes than once assumed. Edit: you can use chatgpt to help locate the papers of interest and sci-hub urls to read the paper. By popular demand:
 
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whole lot of nothing
 
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Brutal, they really have cucks in nature
 

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