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[Valsoon]

Hello everyone

I am asking for some honest rate and advice if you have please, i have theses pictures :




Thank you very much !

 

[Deleted member 18494]

Chaddam-lite

 

[Deleted member 15827]

Chad

 

[Deleted member 15827]

Irl chad psl chadlite

 

[Deleted member 18310]

Hello everyone

I am asking for some honest rate and advice if you have please, i have theses pictures :


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Thank you very much !

last picture is insanely good. Definitely masc chadlite/chad. Whats your height?

 

[Valsoon]

Really ? Thank you but i don't have the impression to be that chad in life

My height is 5,10 feet (180 cm)

 

[Hipcel]

Good looking, but you "fraud" a bit with the beard to make the jawline middle face look sharper.

Also 5'10 is ~178cm

 

[Pakicel]

LTN overall due to pheno and height.

 

[Valsoon]

Yeah sorry I'm 5'11

Yes I know my beard is a cheatcode, i think i can find a bad quality photo but with almost no beard

 

[Valsoon]

This is me with almost no beard : sorry for the quality of this picture

 

[Lygodactylus]

Maxxed out HTN, insha'Allah you will have many european blonde wives

 

[Valsoon]

I hope so Thanks

 

[Telemachus]

Good looking for sure, around a 7/10

 

[eduardkoopman]

htn

 

[Deleted member 17345]

htn -mtn

 

[Valsoon]

thanks for answers

 

[Johanjohan]

Normie everything else is cope

 

[Jason Voorhees]

U look good

 

[JawGuyFatFaceGuy]

Mogger

 

[Deleted member 1660]

Are you turkish?

 

[Valsoon]

No, i am from Iran

 

[twilight]

LTN overall due to pheno and height.

What’s wrong with his pheno? He looks arab which isn’t as good as white but he doesn’t look curry. Tbh every comment of yours I see has this same vibe

 

[Pakicel]

What’s wrong with his pheno? He looks arab which isn’t as good as white but he doesn’t look curry.

Dude. These are good ethnic phenos:

These guys would still be disadvantaged a bit in the west relative to actual white guys. OP's pheno is a lot worse. He almost looks indian in some pics. Like he looks like a punjabi guy here:

It's definitely a failo phenotype and puts him at a disadvantage relative to the average white guy. He isn't dravidian so it's not like he would be complete incel with zero appeal. But he can almost as well as an average white guy based on his looks. So he is basically a LTN.

Btw this is not a light skin ethnic pheno. In my uni back in pakistan, he'd be darker than 40% and lighter than 60%. So just slightly more light-skinned than the average pakistani.

Tbh every comment of yours I see has this same vibe

People here are not phenopilled enough when it arguably matters a lot more than some autistic PSL rating. You can do tinder experiments and see for yourself. Ethnic gigachads get beat by white HTN-Chadlites in the west.

 

[twilight]

Dude. These are good ethnic phenos:

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These guys would still be disadvantaged a bit in the west relative to actual white guys. OP's pheno is a lot worse. He almost looks indian in some pics. Like he looks like a punjabi guy here:

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It's definitely a failo phenotype and puts him at a disadvantage relative to the average white guy. He isn't dravidian so it's not like he would be complete incel with zero appeal. But he can almost as well as an average white guy based on his looks. So he is basically a LTN.

Btw this is not a light skin ethnic pheno. In my uni back in pakistan, he'd be darker than 40% and lighter than 60%. So just slightly more light-skinned than the average pakistani.

People here are not phenopilled enough when it arguably matters a lot more than some autistic PSL rating. You can do tinder experiments and see for yourself. Ethnic gigachads get beat by white HTN-Chadlites in the west.

I mean…maybe your right bro but I can’t comprehend how pheno can drop you that low, especially in places like Canada and shit.

 

[Pakicel]

I mean…maybe your right bro but I can’t comprehend how pheno can drop you that low, especially in places like Canada and shit.

It depends on your pheno though. Some indian phenotypes with brown skin and light eyes have exotic appeal. Depends on the location as well, because in some places ethnics are not as integrated with whites. But generally, if you look like an indian tech support worker, you will struggle hard. I am not saying you can't get laid at all, but you need to manage your expectations.

I think OP would still do OK in a place like Canada if he is NTmaxxed but I doubt he would slay based on his facial aesthetics. Also, LTN is still a solid looks level and you will still get IOIs etc. He cold probably LTR stacies with enough effort especially if they aren't particularly racist.

 

[twilight]

It depends on your pheno though. Some indian phenotypes with brown skin and light eyes have exotic appeal. Depends on the location as well, because in some places ethnics are not as integrated with whites. But generally, if you look like an indian tech support worker, you will struggle hard. I am not saying you can't get laid at all, but you need to manage your expectations.

I think OP would still do OK in a place like Canada if he is NTmaxxed but I doubt he would slay based on his facial aesthetics. Also, LTN is still a solid looks level and you will still get IOIs etc. He cold probably LTR stacies with enough effort especially if they aren't particularly racist.

Agreed until the last paragraph wtf bro your takes make me lose braincels tbh, LTN (slightly below average guys) get IOS? And they can date stacies?? . Anyways I’m curious if what you look like tbh, you describe yourself as quite below average

 

[Pakicel]

Agreed until the last paragraph wtf bro your takes make me lose braincels tbh, LTN (slightly below average guys) get IOS? And they can date stacies?? . Anyways I’m curious if what you look like tbh, you describe yourself as quite below average

Incel tier ugly. Dogshit ethnic phenotype with no bones. Zygos are flat, jaw is rounded and cuck tier. I also have the same pheno as this guy:

Like him, my situation is different from most curries in the sense that my colouring looks legit anemic and pale in natural light. It doesn't work well because all my features are ethnic af. The indians on this website worship pale skin but you will notice that most high appeal chads have tan skin.

I need this guy's colouring to look better:

He looks a fuck ton more healthy and chad like imo. I think I can get this just by spending more time outside. Rotting in the basement plus high E levels is probably why I ended up incel.

 

[twilight]

Incel tier ugly. Dogshit ethnic phenotype with no bones. Zygos are flat, jaw is rounded and cuck tier. I also have the same pheno as this guy:

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Like him, my situation is different from most curries in the sense that my colouring looks legit anemic and pale in natural light. It doesn't work well because all my features are ethnic af. The indians on this website worship pale skin but you will notice that most high appeal chads have tan skin.

I need this guy's colouring to look better:

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He looks a fuck ton more healthy and chad like imo. I think I can get this just by spending more time outside. Rotting in the basement plus high E levels is probably why I ended up incel.

You mind pming your pics? No worries if not. My nigga, blast lycopene and beta caretone and you will achieve that skin tone easily

 

[Pakicel]

Agreed until the last paragraph wtf bro your takes make me lose braincels tbh, LTN (slightly below average guys) get IOS? And they can date stacies?? .

Like I said, you underrate the average young white guy. MTN would be 6 feet tall, north atlantid pheno with decent craniofacial development. Also, somewhat gymmaxxed lean body. A guy slightly worse looking than that would not face issues with his looks.

 

[twilight]

Like I said, you underrate the average young white guy. MTN would be 6 feet tall, north atlantid pheno with decent craniofacial development. Also, somewhat gymmaxxed lean body. A guy slightly worse looking than that would not face issues with his looks.

You said LTN in your other comment. A 6ft tall decent facial developed white guy with a Gymmaxed body is not a low tier normie, neither a mtn either tbh that’s a high tier normie

 

[Pakicel]

You mind pming your pics? No worries if not. My nigga, blast lycopene and beta caretone and you will achieve that skin tone easily

Nah. No point. People gaslight in DMs. I have heard people tell 5'5" indians they can be chadlite/chad. I trust my own eyes and real life experience with women. Maybe I was exaggerating when I said incel tier ugly. I mean I am not deformed like this guy:

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Just below average tbh. It is different.

I already have that guy's skin tone in indoor lighting. But when I go outside and take a selfie, I look incel tier pale.

 

[Pakicel]

You said LTN in your other comment. A 6ft tall decent facial developed white guy with a Gymmaxed body is not a low tier normie, neither a mtn either tbh that’s a high tier normie

Nah. That's the average young guy on campus in many western countries. In some places in germany, sweden, it is even below average.

 

[twilight]

Nah. That's the average young guy on campus in many western countries. In some places in germany, sweden, it is even below average.

Okay, so going back to your first comment. Your saying these “average” young guys are dating stacies? No amount of mental gymnastics will make that make sense

 

[Pakicel]

Okay, so going back to your first comment. Your saying these “average” young guys are dating stacies? No amount of mental gymnastics will make that make sense

I am not saying they are all dating stacies. Obviously, a MTN needs other things like money/status/NT to stand out. But they pass the looks threshold to date them.

OP probably could get a white stacylite through social circle if he has other things going for him. You will better looking women date worse looking guys.

 

[twilight]

I am not saying they are all dating stacies. Obviously, a MTN needs other things like money/status/NT to stand out. But they pass the looks threshold to date them.

OP probably could get a white stacylite through social circle if he has other things going for him. You will better looking women date worse looking guys.

What’s your ascension plan

 

[Pakicel]

What’s your ascension plan

Surgeries and gymaxxing to get me to LTN-MTN. But I am on the fence about them as they don't always work out. I guess I am better off moneymaxxing and then escortcelling. I could force a girl to marry me through her parents but I have morals.

 

[twilight]

Surgeries and gymaxxing to get me to LTN-MTN. But I am on the fence about them as they don't always work out. I guess I am better off moneymaxxing and then escortcelling. I could force a girl to marry me through her parents but I have morals.

Tbh arranged marriage is legit, I often see ugly curries get married to decent looking girls and they don’t seem to mind. Something to consider. Surgeries with good surgeries are always good bro.

 

[Pakicel]

Tbh arranged marriage is legit, I often see ugly curries get married to decent looking girls and they don’t seem to mind.

Yeah. But I gotta feeling those girls are getting raped. A lot of those curries are not just below average. They are deformed. It's different.

I do get some proposals I guess from families wanting to marry their daughters to me but tbh I can def see the girl's revulsion in their eyes when they look at me. No girl should have to marry some guy they find ugly.

Something to consider. Surgeries with good surgeries are always good bro.

Yes. But they can make you look worse if you are not deformed.

 

[twilight]

Yeah. But I gotta feeling those girls are getting raped. A lot of those curries are not just below average. They are deformed. It's different.

I do get some proposals I guess from families wanting to marry their daughters to me but tbh I can def see the girl's revulsion in their eyes when they look at me. No girl should have to marry some guy they find ugly.

Yes. But they can make you look worse if you are not deformed.

Jesus you can actually see the disgust?

I’m guessing your talking about looking uncanny? I think that only happens when you get like 5+ surgeries.

 

[Pakicel]

I’m guessing your talking about looking uncanny? I think that only happens when you get like 5+ surgeries.

Nah. Even one surgery can make you look uncanny.

 

[twilight]

Nah. Even one surgery can make you look uncanny.

Maybe if you have room temperature iq and don’t get the right surgery and don’t plan properly then sure maybe. Pakicel I have noticed you are quite pessimistic in every topic. Why is that

 

[Pakicel]

Maybe if you have room temperature iq and don’t get the right surgery and don’t plan properly then sure maybe. Pakicel I have noticed you are quite pessimistic in every topic. Why is that

Not pessimistic. I am nowhere near as blackpilled as the people here. I don't think that looks are everything. In fact, they don't really matter once you cross a certain threshold. And even if you are ugly af, you can still get women through other means like money/status. You can also luck out with numbers game.

This forum is delusional regarding how much you can improve your looks though. I see truecel tier dudes being told they can be chadlite/chad when they have terrible phenotypes and no harmony. Often times, they are very short as well. The delusion becomes even more apparent when it comes to surgeries, which imo, are very overrated for improving your appeal to women unless you have a clear deformity or something. People here legit think they will be male model tier after bimax+implants when they are held back their skull shape, ratios or other unchangeable factors. I mean they can improve of course, but a lot of these people will never be gl no matter what they do.

Looksmaxxing only really benefits people who have a decent starting point in terms of phenotype, height, harmony, ratios, skull shape etc. A lot of the people here are below average in these regards. They are better off maxxing themselves out in other ways.

 

[randomuser2407]

When you're 22 but look 32 JFL

 

[oatmeal]

Nah. No point. People gaslight in DMs. I have heard people tell 5'5" indians they can be chadlite/chad. I trust my own eyes and real life experience with women. Maybe I was exaggerating when I said incel tier ugly. I mean I am not deformed like this guy:

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Just below average tbh. It is different.

I already have that guy's skin tone in indoor lighting. But when I go outside and take a selfie, I look incel tier pale.

just get a rhino nig

i need one too tbh, but look decent so blah blah blah autism

 

[Pakicel]

just get a rhino nig

i need one too tbh, but look decent so blah blah blah autism

All these surgeries just to be below the average white guy.

 

[Valsoon]

I see that this thread become a debate !

Tbh maybe I am under the white chad but i don't think i am below the normie white, my tinder in France worked well

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[RoundHouse]

When you're 22 but look 32 JFL

youre not the one to talk you fucking baboon lanklet abomination​

 

[Blackgymmax]

I see that this thread become a debate !

Tbh maybe I am under the white chad but i don't think i am below the normie white, my tinder in France worked well

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Faggot suck my cock.
Ugly nigger fuck. Why are you askingfor rates when you see exactly how you're doing on tinder

 

[Valsoon]

Because I want to know how to improve too and know my real note because women will never tell truth, and messages here are interesting except yours

 

[Deleted member 18436]

chadlite