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new here but i’ve lurked here and there. i’m currently hitting the gym (bulking) and chewing while working on eye exercises due to ptosis and eye assmmetry. also saving for a much needed HT.

it’s clear after looking at a photo 3 years ago that i’ve gained some weight in the face :/

what do you guys recommend so i can ascend and do better?

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you lack harmony i can't see any discernible failos other than long midface idk
 
mtn, maybe htn if you lower your bf%
 
in the first pic you look htn or at least close
that first pic was before my bulk unfortunately. i probably won’t stop bulking until the end of next year.

any tips to improve aside from body fat?
 
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i think genioplasty would look good on you, you look like a perfect candidate
 
you lack harmony i can't see any discernible failos other than long midface idk

wouldn’t getting my philtrum shortened improve my long midface? what exactly is ‘harmony’?
 
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mtn, maybe htn if you lower your bf%
pheno cap tbh, plus bad coloring so mtn imo

wouldn’t getting my philtrum shortened improve my long midface? what exactly is ‘harmony’?
actually yes lip lift might help. also contacts to get better contrast might be good for you. overall though i feel like you are hardcapped at htn though
 
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pheno cap tbh, plus bad coloring so mtn imo


actually yes lip lift might help. also contacts to get better contrast might be good for you. overall though i feel like you are hardcapped at htn though
care to elaborate on pheno? (i’m guessing it’s race) not sure about coloring as well.
 
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why genio? just curious
bc it would give you a good chin projection, your maxilla seems decent but your chin/jaw dont follow, it could be more projected
 
care to elaborate on pheno? (i’m guessing it’s race) not sure about coloring as well.
phenotype inclydes coloring and ethnic traits i guess? i just feel like you need better contrast bc everything just blends together and not in a good way? idk. also i just noticed the side profile pic and it's recessed. could be just chin or actual mandible
 
Contrary to what the other user said I think u have very good harmony, but there is something about ur eyes that I don't like. In fact, that's the only thing I don't like, but it's a very noticeable thing. Or maybe it's your high set eyebrows.
 
Oh yes, and maybe try not cutting ur sides that short, because judging from the picture you posted, your temples have a very strange shape: they are narrower than your jaw at ear level, but above the ears they protrude outwards again. Maybe it's a bad angle or distortion?
 
Haircuts with very short sides are the bane of all templecels, I know this myself, and this actor, for example, is bluepilled on the topic and has a haircut that failos his skull shape significantly.
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phenotype inclydes coloring and ethnic traits i guess? i just feel like you need better contrast bc everything just blends together and not in a good way? idk. also i just noticed the side profile pic and it's recessed. could be just chin or actual mandible

i’m mixed but been told i look indian. can’t change that, so might as well embrace it.
also yeah my side profile leaves a lot to be desired.
couldn’t i get a bsso and genio without touching the upper jaw?
 
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Contrary to what the other user said I think u have very good harmony, but there is something about ur eyes that I don't like. In fact, that's the only thing I don't like, but it's a very noticeable thing. Or maybe it's your high set eyebrows.
Contrary to what the other user said I think u have very good harmony, but there is something about ur eyes that I don't like. In fact, that's the only thing I don't like, but it's a very noticeable thing. Or maybe it's your high set eyebrows.
i do have high set eyebrows, could also be the photo and angle along with distortion.
can’t a reverse brow lift make eye brows less highest?
Oh yes, and maybe try not cutting ur sides that short, because judging from the picture you posted, your temples have a very strange shape: they are narrower than your jaw at ear level, but above the ears they protrude outwards again. Maybe it's a bad angle or distortion?

i have recession on both temples but my right one has much more recession. which is probably why it looks odd, along with that photo being old. - i never knew about camera distortion at the time.
Haircuts with very short sides are the bane of all templecels, I know this myself, and this actor, for example, is bluepilled on the topic and has a haircut that failos his skull shape significantly.
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what haircut do you think would suit me?
 
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i’m mixed but been told i look indian. can’t change that, so might as well embrace it.
also yeah my side profile leaves a lot to be desired.
couldn’t i get a bsso and genio without touching the upper jaw?
probably ur maxilla isn't too bad. bimax would not have that much of an impact but it would ascend you.
Contrary to what the other user said I think u have very good harmony, but there is something about ur eyes that I don't like. In fact, that's the only thing I don't like, but it's a very noticeable thing. Or maybe it's your high set eyebrows.
i can't really pinpoint what the failos are honestly. lips/nose ratio is off, chin/philtrum ratio, etc. but overall nothing stands out to me as an actual failo
 
i do have high set eyebrows, could also be the photo and angle along with distortion.
can’t a reverse brow lift make eye brows less highest?
Brow surgery could definitely help, and it's much less invasive and expensive than eye surgery.
i have recession on both temples but my right one has much more recession. which is probably why it looks odd, along with that photo being old. - i never knew about camera distortion at the time.

what haircut do you think would suit me?
Any haircut that aligns your temple shape well and doesn't expose any unevenness
 
probably ur maxilla isn't too bad. bimax would not have that much of an impact but it would ascend you.

i can't really pinpoint what the failos are honestly. lips/nose ratio is off, chin/philtrum ratio, etc. but overall nothing stands out to me as an actual failo
Maybe his beard masks it all very well, but his chin is significantly longer than his philtrum.
 
the ratio on a male should be 1:2 so i think lip lift could be beneficial
so in this case. if i were to get a genio, i wouldn’t want more height but instead more projection? maybe widen it a little since lip lift will fix the ratio?

or will adding more height in general not hurt me?
 
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so in this case. if i were to get a genio, i wouldn’t want more height but instead more projection? maybe widen it a little since lip lift will fix the ratio?

or will adding more height in general not hurt me?
more height from the front + projection from the side would be good even with the lip lift
 

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