rate me and whats my potential and things I should work on? 17 5'10

[vosx0]

 

[anxiety]

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Low MTN
Fat asian with short lower third, loose bf first

 

[vosx0]

Low MTN
Fat asian with short lower third, loose bf first

gotcha

I think even if I do fix the short lower third my skull will be too tall because my total fwhr is 1:1.42. I have a large forehead

 

[premium_mogger1]

gotcha

I think even if I do fix the short lower third my skull will be too tall because my total fwhr is 1:1.42. I have a large forehead

I wld agree LTN. You want to grow out your hair to give the appearance of a lower hairline which would help the ratio. Unfortunately there is not really a natural solution And dermal fillers would be the best option for your lower 3rd. You can get them for about £400 and they’ll last 1-2 years depending on where you get them done. They are very effective. If you want a more permanent solution, you could get jaw implants, but you do have to wonder, is this worth it. God made you the way you are bro. MTNs fine. If you were sub5 I cld get it.

 

[vosx0]

I wld agree LTN. You want to grow out your hair to give the appearance of a lower hairline which would help the ratio. Unfortunately there is not really a natural solution And dermal fillers would be the best option for your lower 3rd. You can get them for about £400 and they’ll last 1-2 years depending on where you get them done. They are very effective. If you want a more permanent solution, you could get jaw implants, but you do have to wonder, is this worth it. God made you the way you are bro. MTNs fine. If you were sub5 I cld get it.

bro but MTN is average right? I don't want to be average for my whole life and also don't plan to do surgeries.

Is losing weight the only non surgical thing I can do?

 

[Muttcel foid killer]

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Kpopmax

 

[vosx0]

Kpopmax

how can I do that?

is my coloring good already or am I too tan?

 

[Muttcel foid killer]

how can I do that?

is my coloring good already or am I too tan?

Dawg just grow out your hair and go after whites Becky's who only want eastern men ur good since u aren't manlet

 

[vosx0]

Dawg just grow out your hair and go after whites Becky's who only want eastern men ur good since u aren't manlet

ok thanks man also whats my appeal looking like

 

[Muttcel foid killer]

ok thanks man also whats my appeal looking like

Probs mtn

 

[premium_mogger1]

bro but MTN is average right? I don't want to be average for my whole life and also don't plan to do surgeries.

Is losing weight the only non surgical thing I can do?

Pretty much bro. Unfortunately not everyone can be above average. That’s not how it works. So lose weight, debloat and that’s all you can do if you don’t want surgery. Maybe use minoxidil on your eyebrows for thickness and shape - remember you want a rounded curve shape. Like the guy in the photo attached. Apply it in that shape 2 times a day for a year and they should have improved significantly. You look fine bro. What you have to remember, is that many of the people on this forum have diagnosed autism - they have done surveys in teh past. They don’t realise that real life is more complicated than MTN LTN whatever the fuck - they blame their lack of social skills and personality on being low MTN (although to be fair there is a level of ugliness that will mean it is virtually impossible to get girls - low LTN/sub5 and looks matter significantly more than the general population will tell you).

If you want to improve further getting girls, work on yourself, get more hobbies, get an earring, get a better fashion sense, and that will make more of a difference than trying some bullshit chewing exercise off tik tok, and obsessing over something that you can’t change (naturally). Trust me bro. You’ll be fine. If u aren’t getting any girls at all, it’s not cause ur completely cooked. Ur high LTN to low MTN. that is more than enough if you have maximised everything else that comes into play. If ur a boring uninteresting unfunny fuck with nothing to talk about and no energy then no wonder you can’t get girls. GET OFF THIS FORUM and go work on your personality and everything you can change. Sure would things be easier if your lower third was bigger. Yes. You can’t change it (or you’re not willing to get fuller/implants) and fair enough. It’s your face.

So in conclusion bro. You're fine. Your not at the level where your looks are absolutely cooking you. Could things be better, definitely. But you're fine.

 

[vortex]

Get a haircut That would suit ur face. Debloat

 

[premium_mogger1]

forgot to upload eyebrow picture (try and apply minoxidil in the shape of the left picture)

 

[vosx0]

Pretty much bro. Unfortunately not everyone can be above average. That’s not how it works. So lose weight, debloat and that’s all you can do if you don’t want surgery. Maybe use minoxidil on your eyebrows for thickness and shape - remember you want a rounded curve shape. Like the guy in the photo attached. Apply it in that shape 2 times a day for a year and they should have improved significantly. You look fine bro. What you have to remember, is that many of the people on this forum have diagnosed autism - they have done surveys in teh past. They don’t realise that real life is more complicated than MTN LTN whatever the fuck - they blame their lack of social skills and personality on being low MTN (although to be fair there is a level of ugliness that will mean it is virtually impossible to get girls - low LTN/sub5 and looks matter significantly more than the general population will tell you).

If you want to improve further getting girls, work on yourself, get more hobbies, get an earring, get a better fashion sense, and that will make more of a difference than trying some bullshit chewing exercise off tik tok, and obsessing over something that you can’t change (naturally). Trust me bro. You’ll be fine. If u aren’t getting any girls at all, it’s not cause ur completely cooked. Ur high LTN to low MTN. that is more than enough if you have maximised everything else that comes into play. If ur a boring uninteresting unfunny fuck with nothing to talk about and no energy then no wonder you can’t get girls. GET OFF THIS FORUM and go work on your personality and everything you can change. Sure would things be easier if your lower third was bigger. Yes. You can’t change it (or you’re not willing to get fuller/implants) and fair enough. It’s your face.

So in conclusion bro. You're fine. Your not at the level where your looks are absolutely cooking you. Could things be better, definitely. But you're fine.

in the past couple months one girl at school dmed me on insta making the first move and another saw me at my part time job and asked me for my insta but thats about it. someone here rated me 2 years ago sub 5 so that explains why I didnt get any girls before.

how is high ltn - low mtn fine bro? doesnt that mean im below average by a lot?

also how do I get minoxidil? if its over the counter then I'll 100% be able to convince my parents

 

[anthony111553]

High Ltn to mtn

 

[vosx0]

forgot to upload eyebrow picture (try and apply minoxidil in the shape of the left picture)

random question but how do you achieve the shiny look that the guy on the lefts eyes have? The guy on the right has dull eyes

 

[LTNUser]

High LTN

 

[Spookybah]

in the past couple months one girl at school dmed me on insta making the first move and another saw me at my part time job and asked me for my insta but thats about it. someone here rated me 2 years ago sub 5 so that explains why I didnt get any girls before.

how is high ltn - low mtn fine bro? doesnt that mean im below average by a lot?

also how do I get minoxidil? if its over the counter then I'll 100% be able to convince my parents

Brother, no girl has ever made the first move to me. I'll be bluepilled for a sec, it doesn't even matter if you're below average (high LTN is average guy) since you're already getting dms from girls making the first move. People say it doesn't work, but if you're average then socialmaxxing and nichemaxxing can get you far. I know this works because I've seen it work. If you want to look good then do it for yourself; softmaxxing and leanmaxxing especially will bring you up without considering surgery.

 

[vosx0]

Brother, no girl has ever made the first move to me. I'll be bluepilled for a sec, it doesn't even matter if you're below average (high LTN is average guy) since you're already getting dms from girls making the first move. People say it doesn't work, but if you're average then socialmaxxing and nichemaxxing can get you far. I know this works because I've seen it work. If you want to look good then do it for yourself; softmaxxing and leanmaxxing especially will bring you up without considering surgery.

bro this has only happened those 2 times and its all recent because puberty hit me hard in the past few months

since im high ltn and girls have made the first move idk maybe I look better irl which is a bit of cope

 

[bloatcelled]

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ltn

 

[premium_mogger1]

in the past couple months one girl at school dmed me on insta making the first move and another saw me at my part time job and asked me for my insta but thats about it. someone here rated me 2 years ago sub 5 so that explains why I didnt get any girls before.

how is high ltn - low mtn fine bro? doesnt that mean im below average by a lot?

also how do I get minoxidil? if its over the counter then I'll 100% be able to convince my parents

Firstly, high LTN - low MTN is only very slightly below average (maybe 45th percentile) , and I'm sure that you'll reach at least a solid MTN once u lose weight.

Also the 'shiny' look your referring to is just a result of extreme angularity - very high positive canthal tilt (much more than average, a very strong and protrusive and low set brow ridge, and due to an elongated downturned medial canthus. Here is a video on it for more info

I would say that as an Asian, you shld try to avoid trying to compare your monolid eyes with non monolid eyes, because they are just different.

Also, the people on this forum, myself included, are not that great at rating, if you want a proper rating with better more in depth looksmaxxing advice, from a guy who properly knows what he's talking about go here https://nerofacerate.com/ he has a YT channel. He is the most reasonable and well thought out blackpiller. A fair amount of blackpill, and a fair amount of reality. He will measure all of your angles etc. for £5.

I'm 17 as well mate, I just bought it over amazon. Just make sure the seller is verified. Here's the one I got: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0155N6RYE?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title - You cld probs get it at a chemist's/pharmacy - superdrug sell it if u live in england

When ur older, if you grow a beard, that will fix ur lower third problem - although if ur Asian genetics stop u from doing so, you'll have to use minoxidil for your beard as well - there are loads of tutorials on YT.

 

[vosx0]

Firstly, high LTN - low MTN is only very slightly below average (maybe 45th percentile) , and I'm sure that you'll reach at least a solid MTN once u lose weight.

Also the 'shiny' look your referring to is just a result of extreme angularity - very high positive canthal tilt (much more than average, a very strong and protrusive and low set brow ridge, and due to an elongated downturned medial canthus. Here is a video on it for more info

I would say that as an Asian, you shld try to avoid trying to compare your monolid eyes with non monolid eyes, because they are just different.

Also, the people on this forum, myself included, are not that great at rating, if you want a proper rating with better more in depth looksmaxxing advice, from a guy who properly knows what he's talking about go here https://nerofacerate.com/ he has a YT channel. He is the most reasonable and well thought out blackpiller. A fair amount of blackpill, and a fair amount of reality. He will measure all of your angles etc. for £5.

I'm 17 as well mate, I just bought it over amazon. Just make sure the seller is verified. Here's the one I got: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0155N6RYE?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title - You cld probs get it at a chemist's/pharmacy - superdrug sell it if u live in england

When ur older, if you grow a beard, that will fix ur lower third problem - although if ur Asian genetics stop u from doing so, you'll have to use minoxidil for your beard as well - there are loads of tutorials on YT.

damn ok so now I know I cant achieve that look

thanks for the help