Recessed from pulled teeth/braces but not incel - is surgery worth it?

[dravidiancel]

Hey guys, will keep it brief

At 13, I had 4 adult teeth pulled and braces and bands, the whole lot up until about 16

I developed breathing problems, narrow palate, prominent nasolabial folds when smiling and a weak side profile and a seemingly large nose due to lack of forward growth in the jaw

I'm decently happy with my front and 3/4 profile but my side profile isn't up to par. I need direct front lighting to hide my nasolabial folds and I'm more often than not unhappy with how i look in pictures

I do have consistent success with women, i've had 2 girlfriends, and i see success with women who like and reply to stories complimenting my looks

but, the women i'd find attractive enough for a long term relationship are usually a lot harder for me to pull, usually we're in the same class and the stars align for us to talk, but if I had met her on social media it probably wouldn't pan out

my side profile is also pretty weak and my recession is obvious when i smile from my side profile, but i do think my jaw genetics has somewhat saved me from looking subhuman but the issues are visible

I would like to know if jaw surgery (bimax, CCW rotation, lefort idk) is worth it in my situation? I have two photos of my side profile, one normal and one with jaw jutted forward and tongue behind lips to simulate some forward growth and i can see a clear difference. if needed i will attach these. cheers

 

[aids]

I developed breathing problems, narrow palate, prominent nasolabial folds when smiling and a weak side profile and a seemingly large nose due to lack of forward growth in the jaw

Seems like you've answered your own question.
Look into it at the very least.

 

[depressionmaxxing]

too much text i just need a pic

 

[dravidiancel]

too much text i just need a pic

bet. here's 4 photos;

1x frauded side profile, 1x 3/4 candid photo, 1x actual side profile, 1x jaw jutted with tongue in front of teeth to mock forward growth, lmk wyt

 

[johnathansmithston]

Nasolabial folds big nose and narrow palate are a maxilla issue...?

 

[dravidiancel]

Nasolabial folds big nose and narrow palate are a maxilla issue...?

well if the maxilla isn't as forward grown as could be, doesn't that mean there's more tissue to fold in when ur smiling n whatnot?

narrow palette isn't a maxilla issue that's just due to retractive braces, my nose appears larger due to the surrounding facial landmarks, rest of my family havr either straight or slightly upturned noses mine is the only one that hooks probably cause of lacking support

could be wrong, open to ur suggestions

 

[dravidiancel]

Seems like you've answered your own question.
Look into it at the very least.

emailed a local ortho to see if i can get a consultation in

 

[depressionmaxxing]

bet. here's 4 photos;

1x frauded side profile, 1x 3/4 candid photo, 1x actual side profile, 1x jaw jutted with tongue in front of teeth to mock forward growth, lmk wyt

Seems alright ngl

 

[DNRDniggerking]

dnrd if you're not an incel and have women just live life or go to a dentist and get some normie treatment retard

 

[Splash]

I also had 4 adult teeth removed but no differences since they were crooked, now I'll get braces soon and hopefully my jaw will improve

 

[dravidiancel]

dnrd if you're not an incel and have women just live life or go to a dentist and get some normie treatment retard

yeah fair enough but like it's been something i've been concerned about for ages, i figured getting it fixed might help confidence and my actual looks

 

[dravidiancel]

I also had 4 adult teeth removed but no differences since they were crooked, now I'll get braces soon and hopefully my jaw will improve

hopefully, just be careful with getting rubber bands as that's what does the damage especially