Redditor chimpmaxes to combat sleep apnea

[Reckless Turtle]

 

[Deleted member 84056]

looks like shit

 

[Saint Casanova]

This is what you get from the NHS

 

[CoreSchizo]

He looks a bit better though, lol. Should have gone to Ramieri, though.

 

[Deleted member 88357]

he mucj looks better, but yeah still a shit ass result

 

[normie_joe]

"Possibly I mean I asked for him to advance as much as possible sleep apnea is a much bigger deal for me than how I look."

I kinda respect him tbh.

 

[Jonnyboi]

Life ruined just like that. Brutal

 

[normie_joe]

Life ruined just like that. Brutal

He's a 6 ft 4 ogre, he'll be fine and that's what he wanted too.

 

[Reckless Turtle]

Life ruined just like that. Brutal

Not according to him.

 

[longjohnmong]

he mucj looks better, but yeah still a shit ass result

he looks better if he's trying to attract balloon tits, balloon lipped, plastic whores

this is by far his best pic:

he also fucked his nose

 

[Pakicel]

This is worse than many Alfaro botches.

But it’s great that Reddit is delusionmaxxing him. He sees a chad in the mirror and that’s what really matters in the end.

 

[Reckless Turtle]

But it’s great that Reddit is delusionmaxxing him. He sees a chad in the mirror and that’s what really matters in the end.

This is literally the top comment:

 

[Pakicel]

This is literally the top comment:

That’s just one comment. There are others like this:



And OP thinks he ascended so who cares. It’s not like he even did it to improve his looks.

 

[TUSSELEIF]

he looks better if he's trying to attract balloon tits, balloon lipped, plastic whores

this is by far his best pic:

he also fucked his nose

Or this one

Guys like this need a beard

 

[chrishell]

NHS is a Frankenstein lab at this point

 

[greycel]

Cover the lower third with your thumb and it looks fine

The angle of the lower third doesn't work with the angle of the maxilla

It looks off, not to mention the swelling of the lower third making it seem that his bigonial is crazy

If he fixes his lower third, then he's set

 

[chrishell]

The issue is that his upper third doesn't have enough facial depth to accommodate this projected a jaw.

 

[Reckless Turtle]

Cover the lower third with your thumb and it looks fine

The angle of the lower third doesn't work with the angle of the maxilla

It looks off, not to mention the swelling of the lower third making it seem that his bigonial is crazy

If he fixes his lower third, then he's set

Yeah, he has a long chin and a somewhat shallow ramus. A lot of bimax advancements result in a banana mandible.

 

[greycel]

Yeah, he has a long chin and a somewhat shallow ramus. A lot of bimax advancements result in a banana mandible.

Is there any way to make a banana mandible straight after bimax?

 

[Reckless Turtle]

Is there any way to make a banana mandible straight after bimax?

Chin wing or implants. I also asked Ramieri about cutting the ramus to lengthen it during bimax and he said it's a possibility but I've never seen a case of a popular surgeon doing it on a typical patient.

Personally, I would need it done on one side because one ramus is shorter, which would theoretically address some of the asymmetry in my bite.

 

[greycel]

Chin wing or implants. I also asked Ramieri about cutting the ramus to lengthen it during bimax and he said it's a possibility but I've never seen a case of a popular surgeon doing it on a typical patient.

Personally, I would need it done on one side because one ramus is shorter, which would theoretically address some of the asymmetry in my bite.

Same with me man
Do you have that mild condylar hyperplasia

Did you do orthodontics growing up?
Extractions? Braces?

 

[Reckless Turtle]

Do you have that mild condylar hyperplasia

Not really. I'm just moderately recessed and have ramus length discrepancy. One of my gonial angles is acceptable and the other is too wide with the ramus being short. It isn't very noticeable from the front because my bite seems to align but my lower teeth are actually shifted in position by roughly one tooth size as a result.

Did you do orthodontics growing up?
Extractions? Braces?

I had braces when I was 10 but only on the top teeth and they have since relapsed. I had my wisdom teeth removed at 17.

 

[PSL Les]

He just needs to debloat

 

[Deleted member 84469]

He just needs to debloat

This. Once that happens we can judge fairly

 

[noahwillascend]

NHS MENTIONED
Seriously though, why would you do it through the NHS and not privately

 

[noahwillascend]

He looks ok though
But he did it for a quality of life improvement, and not looks improvement
Either way he ascended from before , and it would have been for free with the NHS

 

[Reckless Turtle]

He just needs to debloat

This. Once that happens we can judge fairly

Debloat or unswell? The first post is 6 months post-op.

 

[rolloftape]

ok hes not htn but hes def better

 

[Snicket]

This is a cautionary tale for people who just want big advancements. The maxilla constitutes the entire midface. If you only move the upper jaw, you leave the rest of the maxilla behind. This was not about sleep apnea, whatever he says. This was clearly about aesthetics. It was a bad result though. No serious surgeon was advocate an advancement like this. I'm frankly surprised he got the NHS to even agree to this.

 

[Reckless Turtle]

This is a cautionary tale for people who just want big advancements. The maxilla constitutes the entire midface. If you only move the upper jaw, you leave the rest of the maxilla behind. This was not about sleep apnea, whatever he says. This was clearly about aesthetics. It was a bad result though. No serious surgeon was advocate an advancement like this. I'm frankly surprised he got the NHS to even agree to this.

If the jaws are secured and he doesn't relapse then the movements will likely solve his sleep apnea. Why would you doubt that?

 

[Snicket]

If the jaws are secured and he doesn't relapse then the movements will likely solve his sleep apnea. Why would you doubt that?

No i agree that advancement will address sleep apnea but the advancements of well over 1cm (in this man's case) are clearly for aesthetic reasons - not functional. Large advancements (>1cm) are more liable to relapse although I'm sure he'll be better off than when he started.

 

[Reckless Turtle]

No i agree that advancement will address sleep apnea but the advancements of well over 1cm are clearly for aesthetic reasons - not functional. Large advancements (>1cm) are more liable to relapse although I'm sure he'll be better off than when he started.

He said that he had a poor result after his first procedure due to under-advancement. I suspect that he wanted to make sure that was avoided the second time. He seemed pretty aware that the large advancement would look chimpish, so your argument about aesthetics is not that strong, frankly.

 

[Snicket]

He said that he had a poor result after his first procedure due to under-advancement. I suspect that he wanted to make sure that was avoided the second time. He seemed pretty aware that the large advancement would look chimpish, so your argument about aesthetics is not that strong, frankly.

Ok. Missed that. His first op doesn't look like an under-advancement to me. Even if it was, near 1cm advancements were excessive. Tbh, I just don't believe that second advancement was functional. I'd bet money on it. He probably thinks the chimp look is attractive. Many people go to Alfaro for this reason.

 

[longjohnmong]

nevermind

 

[haus33]

This is a cautionary tale for people who just want big advancements. The maxilla constitutes the entire midface. If you only move the upper jaw, you leave the rest of the maxilla behind. This was not about sleep apnea, whatever he says. This was clearly about aesthetics. It was a bad result though. No serious surgeon was advocate an advancement like this. I'm frankly surprised he got the NHS to even agree to this.

He thinks he is ascended bro

 

[Snicket]

He thinks he is ascended bro

I don’t blame him. Most people don’t get that a misalignment of the teeth almost always means that the rest of the face didn’t grow properly. They think fixing the teeth and advancing the jaws as far as possible fixes the problem.

 

[Zangano1]

I also have no chin

 

[Reckless Turtle]

They think fixing the teeth and advancing the jaws as far as possible fixes the problem.

As opposed to what—slightly advancing the jaws?

 

[Snicket]

As opposed to what—slightly advancing the jaws?

Yes. Advancing the lower maxilla too much creates a skeletal discrepancy with the rest of the maxilla. That’s why it’s crudely called “chimpmaxxing” here. The first operation looks much more natural than the revision to me. At this point, he’s do well to get custom implants to provide more upper maxillary projection.

 

[Oberyn]

shit wrong topic.

 

[Guiltyfeelings]

Fucked Up Beyond All Recognition

 

[vrt]

proof that surgery wont save everyone

 

[longjohnmong]

proof that surgery wont save everyone

Is anyone claiming that having some random surgeon arbitrarily move bones around will save everyone?

Proof would be if he spent $200k with all the best surgeons, got everything he needed, and still looked like shit.