Retarded Pedo argument Proven Retarded

[mcmentalonthemic]

I see alot of .is incels defend pedophilia or at the very least ephebophilia because of the idea that women are most fertile when they hit puberty.

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They site alot of evidence for this such as the fact in graphs depicting egg health by age, it starts at 20 [evil conspiracy from the jews to hide muh truth]

[literally first 3 graphs I could find on google]
Also the idea that, well, it just sounds right. The idea that the most healthy eggs come first, and that until 1 and a half centuries ago, women as young as 12 got married [both my grandparents on both sides of my family were married by 14-16]

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But, assuming this is true, wouldn't the ideal age to give women the healthiest eggs, evolutionary speaking, be around when they hit adulthood, since then they'd have experience raising children?

Yes. Graph from a study on pregnancy related mortality rate, by maternal age, by region, the healthiest babies are born from mothers aged 20-24

Another graph I made using MatPlotLib with the data for the Americas
So no, your fascination with a perfect 15 year old innocent girl is not goatis natural raw primal, it's a disordered way of thinking.

Tl;Dr: The most natural age to be attracted to after hitting age 20 is 20-24, not around 15

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Further reading:

The Best Age for Pregnancy and Undue Pressures - PMC

In western countries we assist at the paradox that fertility is socially discouraged by a mindset that depicts fertility as a resource to exploit as late as possible. So, couples have high expectative about the advantages of delayed parenthood, but ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[mcmentalonthemic]

I think the best way to find out what is the lowest age it's socially acceptable for you to date though is the classic "divide your age by 2 and add 7" formula

 

[BlackSilence]

youd have to be severely mentally ill to not find a 15 year old girl attractive, fertile on the other hand def not.

 

[mcmentalonthemic]

youd have to be severely mentally ill to not find a 15 year old girl attractive, fertile on the other hand def not.

 

[dhusc]

I see alot of .is incels defend pedophilia or at the very least ephebophilia because of the idea that women are most fertile when they hit puberty.

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They site alot of evidence for this such as the fact in graphs depicting egg health by age, it starts at 20 [evil conspiracy from the jews to hide muh truth]
View attachment 4680855View attachment 4680856View attachment 4680858
[literally first 3 graphs I could find on google]
Also the idea that, well, it just sounds right. The idea that the most healthy eggs come first, and that until 1 and a half centuries ago, women as young as 12 got married [both my grandparents on both sides of my family were married by 14-16]

---

But, assuming this is true, wouldn't the ideal age to give women the healthiest eggs be around when they hit adulthood, since then they'd have experience raising children?
View attachment 4680868
Yes. Graph from a study on pregnancy related mortality rate, by maternal age, by region, the healthiest babies are born from mothers aged 20-24
So no, your fascination with a perfect 15 year old innocent girl is not goatis natural raw primal, it's a disordered way of thinking.
View attachment 4680875
Tl;Dr: The most natural age to be attracted to after hitting age 20 is 20-24, not around 15

pedo evisceration

 

[Chungus]

Your graphs literally disprove your arguments

 

[mcmentalonthemic]

Your graphs literally disprove your arguments

Thanks for elaborating

 

[Chungus]

Thanks for elaborating

All of them besides one have data on women under 20, and the graph that does has varying maternal mortality trends with some continents having lowest maternal mortality in 15-19 or equal amounts from 15-25

 

[Former Shortcel]

All of them besides one have data on women under 20, and the graph that does has varying maternal mortality trends with some continents having lowest maternal mortality in 15-19 or equal amounts from 15-25

Chungus

 

[Chungus]

Chungus

I’m so ugly why did god make me this way

 

[Former Shortcel]

I’m so ugly why did god make me this way

Explains the defending of pedophilia / ephebophilia

 

[mcmentalonthemic]

All of them besides one have data on women under 20

The first 3 I used as examples? No they do not.

and the graph that does has varying maternal mortality trends with some continents having lowest maternal mortality in 15-19 or equal amounts from 15-25

No, literally all of them follow the pattern I outlined, even the super flat looking ones

Except South East Asia

And I doubt anyone lives in the phillipenes on this forum except very very few
I can only chalk this up to human development or perhaps something genetic with south east asians that required them to need healthier eggs younger

But, if you don't live in SEA, this thread is still LAW

 

[mcmentalonthemic]

Explains the defending of pedophilia / ephebophilia

I do unironically believe humans are hardwired to be attracted to younger girls and develop incestuous feelings when they become incels

If your entire village was wiped out by a plague and the only surrounding women are too young or your sister, this was probably some evolutionary thing to make sure you continue your offspring no matter what

in the modern world with this many incels though.. it just results in incest fantasy threads on .is and the pedos caught on chris hansen all being ltn or less

 

[Former Shortcel]

I do unironically believe humans are hardwired to be attracted to younger girls and develop incestuous feelings when they become incels

If your entire village was wiped out by a plague and the only surrounding women are too young or your sister, this was probably some evolutionary thing to make sure you continue your offspring no matter what

in the modern world with this many incels though.. it just results in incest fantasy threads on .is and the pedos caught on chris hansen all being ltn or less

Probably also a cause of being abused dogs in their teens and thus missing out on teenage love

 

[Societal Reject]

Agreed anything under 20 is pedophilia women are babies

 

[mcmentalonthemic]

Probably also a cause of being abused dogs in their teens and thus missing out on teenage love

 

[Former Shortcel]

Agreed anything under 20 is pedophilia women are babies

 

[Vantablack]

she’s only 24 you sick fuck! women aren’t fertile until age 30.

 

[Chungus]

The first 3 I used as examples? No they do not.

I meant to say all of them don’t have data on women under 20 besides one

No, literally all of them follow the pattern I outlined, even the super flat looking ones
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Except South East Asia
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And I doubt anyone lives in the phillipenes on this forum except very very few
I can only chalk this up to human development or perhaps something genetic with south east asians that required them to need healthier eggs younger

But, if you don't live in SEA, this thread is still LAW

The decrease is insignificant with the maternal mortality rate basically reaching the same rate as it was at 15 by 25-30. Besides, even if the ideal is 20, the ability for pregnancy to occur at 15-19 with a relatively low maternal mortality rate shows it isn’t abnormal for women that age to be impregnated

 

[Chungus]

I meant to say all of them don’t have data on women under 20 besides one

The decrease is insignificant with the maternal mortality rate basically reaching the same rate as it was at 15 by 25-30. Besides, even if the ideal is 20, the ability for pregnancy to occur at 15-19 with a relatively low maternal mortality rate shows it isn’t abnormal for women that age to be impregnated

Also this random graph at the top of google suggests that maternal mortality is lowest 15–19 lol
Edit: haha wait this graph is bullshit 40+ is so low

 

[mcmentalonthemic]

Except South East Asia

And I doubt anyone lives in the phillipenes on this forum except very very few
I can only chalk this up to human development or perhaps something genetic with south east asians that required them to need healthier eggs younger

It may actually be the idea that people in SEA have a much stronger maternal/paternal instinct towards babies of girls who are much younger, they feel more bad for it?
Which causes them to take care of it more attentively. Actually the reason why female babies survive more than male, even in modern era.
SEA families are much bigger and interconnected than muh nuclear family I'm pretty sure. So if you get pregnant at like 14 maybe you can much better rely on your family to take care of your children than if you lived in europe or africa
Just a hypothesis
@Chungus @Former Shortcel

I meant to say all of them don’t have data on women under 20 besides one

@Former Shortcel I suspect he believes I was using the first 3 graphs to prove the idea that they all don't have data under 20 wrong, when I was actually using them to prove the idea right, to illustrate why such people might think this
If so, brutal IQcel here

The decrease is insignificant with the maternal mortality rate basically reaching the same rate as it was at 15 by 25-30

I genuinely do not understand how a few dozen more baby deaths per 100,000 is insignificant in long term evolution jfl

Besides, even if the ideal is 20, the ability for pregnancy to occur at 15-19 with a relatively low maternal mortality rate shows it isn’t abnormal for women that age to be impregnated

I do not really think for this to be the case. In societies with lower HDI, and therefore higher birth rate, getting impregnated at such an age is the norm. But in developed societies, it's weird. Just naturally weird. Why? Because there is no need to rush. We are hardwired to get weirded out when there is enough food to never go hungry, and the idea of getting killed in daily life is a fantasy because we can afford to take it slow and go for the most healthy option, aka, 20-24, which is the most attractive age a woman is according to studies.
The ability is there as a "just incase"
We have literally dozens of just incase factors.
If you were starving and saw meat filled with maggots, you'd eat it without a second's thought, but would you eat it right now? Fuck no, that's not normal. Your brain has the ability to shut off disgust in this way when you're starving "just incase", that doesn't mean eating meat with maggots is normal.

Also this random graph at the top of google suggests that maternal mortality is lowest 15–19 lol

Hhahahahha this is maternal deaths, aka death of the MOTHER
Which has nothing to do with health of the egg and fertility? Also by this logic, the graph shows it's lowest age 45-49, yet getting pregnant at this age is death tier for baby health, just lol

 

[wyves]

I see alot of .is incels defend pedophilia or at the very least ephebophilia because of the idea that women are most fertile when they hit puberty.

---

They site alot of evidence for this such as the fact in graphs depicting egg health by age, it starts at 20 [evil conspiracy from the jews to hide muh truth]
View attachment 4680855View attachment 4680856View attachment 4680858
[literally first 3 graphs I could find on google]
Also the idea that, well, it just sounds right. The idea that the most healthy eggs come first, and that until 1 and a half centuries ago, women as young as 12 got married [both my grandparents on both sides of my family were married by 14-16]

---

But, assuming this is true, wouldn't the ideal age to give women the healthiest eggs, evolutionary speaking, be around when they hit adulthood, since then they'd have experience raising children?
View attachment 4680868
Yes. Graph from a study on pregnancy related mortality rate, by maternal age, by region, the healthiest babies are born from mothers aged 20-24
View attachment 4680907
Another graph I made using MatPlotLib with the data for the Americas
So no, your fascination with a perfect 15 year old innocent girl is not goatis natural raw primal, it's a disordered way of thinking.
View attachment 4680875
Tl;Dr: The most natural age to be attracted to after hitting age 20 is 20-24, not around 15

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Further reading:

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articl...about 15 year olds have not actually met any

http://

 

[Former Shortcel]

http://

Nigga got taken out midway through writing his response

 

[mcmentalonthemic]

Nigga got taken out midway through writing his response

what's funnier is it's http not https which means it was prolly gonna be some ancient website

 

[Ghoulish]

My type is slightly older, im 17 so my ideal is like 18-19

 

[wyves]

Nigga got taken out midway through writing his response

Nah I'm dead fried wtf

 

[Chungus]

@Former Shortcel I suspect he believes I was using the first 3 graphs to prove the idea that they all don't have data under 20 wrong, when I was actually using them to prove the idea right, to illustrate why such people might think this
If so, brutal IQcel here

Them not using women under 20 only proves a lack of data

I genuinely do not understand how a few dozen more baby deaths per 100,000 is insignificant in long term evolution jfl

If there is a constant possibility of death, impregnating a slightly less than ideal aged woman is the best way for humans to not become extinct

I do not really think for this to be the case. In societies with lower HDI, and therefore higher birth rate, getting impregnated at such an age is the norm. But in developed societies, it's weird. Just naturally weird. Why? Because there is no need to rush. We are hardwired to get weirded out when there is enough food to never go hungry, and the idea of getting killed in daily life is a fantasy because we can afford to take it slow and go for the most healthy option, aka, 20-24, which is the most attractive age a woman is according to studies.
The ability is there as a "just incase"
We have literally dozens of just incase factors.
If you were starving and saw meat filled with maggots, you'd eat it without a second's thought, but would you eat it right now? Fuck no, that's not normal. Your brain has the ability to shut off disgust in this way when you're starving "just incase", that doesn't mean eating meat with maggots is normal

Even if you consider it weird it was practiced ancestrally for millennia and it isn’t a forgot practice

Hhahahahha this is maternal deaths, aka death of the MOTHER
Which has nothing to do with health of the egg and fertility? Also by this logic, the graph shows it's lowest age 45-49, yet getting pregnant at this age is death tier for baby health, just lol

Yeah I realized that but your original graph was about maternal mortality. Also, even if that graph is incorrect graphs aren’t completely accurate with each having unique outcomes

 

[esoterik]

this is such a weird thread, if age of consent is 14-16 in countries and it makes ephebophilia accepted in that region, why do you even care? your bringing graphs to a morality debate

its like the same thing when straight people get mad at gay people for being gay

 

[thedarkerone]

I think the best way to find out what is the lowest age it's socially acceptable for you to date though is the classic "divide your age by 2 and add 7" formula

retarded gay cuck tranny formula

 

[donpuro]

24 jfljfljfljfl

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

I see alot of .is incels defend pedophilia or at the very least ephebophilia because of the idea that women are most fertile when they hit puberty.

---

They site alot of evidence for this such as the fact in graphs depicting egg health by age, it starts at 20 [evil conspiracy from the jews to hide muh truth]
View attachment 4680855View attachment 4680856View attachment 4680858
[literally first 3 graphs I could find on google]
Also the idea that, well, it just sounds right. The idea that the most healthy eggs come first, and that until 1 and a half centuries ago, women as young as 12 got married [both my grandparents on both sides of my family were married by 14-16]

---

But, assuming this is true, wouldn't the ideal age to give women the healthiest eggs, evolutionary speaking, be around when they hit adulthood, since then they'd have experience raising children?
View attachment 4680868
Yes. Graph from a study on pregnancy related mortality rate, by maternal age, by region, the healthiest babies are born from mothers aged 20-24
View attachment 4680907
Another graph I made using MatPlotLib with the data for the Americas
So no, your fascination with a perfect 15 year old innocent girl is not goatis natural raw primal, it's a disordered way of thinking.
View attachment 4680875
Tl;Dr: The most natural age to be attracted to after hitting age 20 is 20-24, not around 15

---

Further reading:

The Best Age for Pregnancy and Undue Pressures - PMC

In western countries we assist at the paradox that fertility is socially discouraged by a mindset that depicts fertility as a resource to exploit as late as possible. So, couples have high expectative about the advantages of delayed parenthood, but ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

i dont think anyones scale of morality or worldview is based upon the "most ideal age to impregnate a woman biologically"

strictly biologically, its also above 15 as they still face higher mortality rate

but regardless, this "in nature" shit is completely pointless, we would rape women in nature.

the core of the argument, is:

is a 20 year old so much more developed than a teenager that they are not capable of consenting?

thats the end of the road, you have to say "all women are stupid" or "its better if they're groomed"

theres no way to get past this, but 16-18 is fine imo just depends on their level of maturity

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

at the end of the day theres no objective morality

Does a childs urge to feel safe and secure usurp my urge to fuck that kid? if so, why?

assuming i kidnap the child and do this to it every day, will my joy not be equivalent to their suffering?

who makes the rules?

OF COURSE I WOULD NEVER DO ANY OF THIS AND I AM NOT AN ATHIEST SO I HAVE SUBJECTIVE MORALITY

 

[mcmentalonthemic]

Them not using women under 20 only proves a lack of data

if they have 44-49, they'll have before 20
I think it's just etiquette since under aged pregnancies are.. weird

this is such a weird thread

if age of consent is 14-16 in countries and it makes ephebophilia accepted in that region, why do you even care?

We do not live in Africa or SEA, according to the sruvey over 90% of this forum lives in Europe or North America [aka US]

Even if you consider it weird it was practiced ancestrally for millennia and it isn’t a forgot practice

Because humans have been starving for thousands of years
The last 50 years have been paradise for the human race compared to even 100 years ago
99% of human history before 100 years ago only focuses on the top 0.01%, the other 99.99% were too busy starving

If there is a constant possibility of death, impregnating a slightly less than ideal aged woman is the best way for humans to not become extinct

This is only needed in very underdeveloped countries, which both you and I do not live in

r original graph was about maternal mortality. Also, even if that graph is incorrect graphs aren’t completely accurate with each having unique outcomes

your graph is bar which is pretty innacurate and usually only used in smaller data sets, I assume my graph is more accurate

i dont think anyones scale of morality or worldview is based upon the "most ideal age to impregnate a woman biologically"

strictly biologically, its also above 15 as they still face higher mortality rate

but regardless, this "in nature" shit is completely pointless, we would rape women in nature.

the core of the argument, is:

is a 20 year old so much more developed than a teenager that they are not capable of consenting?

thats the end of the road, you have to say "all women are stupid" or "its better if they're groomed"

theres no way to get past this, but 16-18 is fine imo just depends on their level of maturity

Realise that all your thoughts and ideas and beliefs are based on genetic prerequisites that have kept your ancestors alive for hundreds of thousands of years
Why does mold smell bad to us all?
Why are we disgusted by rotting food?
Why is the average age where a woman is most attractive 20-24?
Because of hundreds of thousands of millions of years of pre requisites

 

[mcmentalonthemic]

at the end of the day theres no objective morality

Does a childs urge to feel safe and secure usurp my urge to fuck that kid? if so, why?

assuming i kidnap the child and do this to it every day, will my joy not be equivalent to their suffering?

who makes the rules?

It's funny because I never once brought up morality
@Former Shortcel last time I'll @ you but gosh these niggas dont read

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

Why is the average age where a woman is most attractive 20-24?

what are you talking about its obviously 16

Ill assume you're debating in bad faith from this point onwards

the most physically attractive age is 24? who are we deceiving here you hollow rat? stand on fucking business.

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

It's funny because I never once brought up morality
@Former Shortcel last time I'll @ you but gosh these niggas dont read

the argument in your thread is fruitless it doesnt resolve any debate at all

would we fuck teenagers in nature? yes obviously.

it doesnt even need to go further than this

 

[esoterik]

We do not live in Africa or SEA, according to the sruvey over 90% of this forum lives in Europe or North America [aka US]

..... right, soooo??? like i said

if age of consent is 14-16 in countries and it makes ephebophilia accepted in that region, why do you even care?

stop trying to be the moral police and push your morals on others

 

[mcmentalonthemic]

Ill assume you're debating in bad faith from this point onwards

Ok then dnr everything else

..... right, soooo??? like i said

if age of consent is 14-16 in countries and it makes ephebophilia accepted in that region, why do you even care?

stop trying to be the moral police and push your morals on others

I literally did not bring up morality once holy fuck .org users do not read
Atp i'm dnring you both, literally put TLDR in post, where morality was not brung up once

 

[esoterik]

the argument in your thread is fruitless it doesnt resolve any debate at all

would we fuck teenagers in nature? yes obviously.

it doesnt even need to go further than this

i think op is just ragebaiting tbh, take thread with alot of gains of salt, and tone down the brain power you give this thread, the mental energy is better spent on other shit

 

[esoterik]

I literally did not bring up morality once holy fuck .org users do not read
Atp i'm dnring you both, literally put TLDR in post, where morality was not brung up once

i think u have a fundamental misunderstanding in a topic like this; this topic heavily involves morals, hence why i brought it up, even if you say you didnt bring morals, your making a moral argument

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

i think op is just ragebaiting tbh, take thread with alot of gains of salt, and tone down the brain power you give this thread, the mental energy is better spent on other shit

yea i need to go gym right now

ive been going to home gym but its 12am so ill just go and lift in peace at PF

 

[mcmentalonthemic]

i think u have a fundamental misunderstanding in a topic like this; this topic heavily involves morals, hence why i brought it up, even if you say you didnt bring morals, your making a moral argument

no i'm not..

 

[Centurion_Hunter]

I see alot of .is incels defend pedophilia or at the very least ephebophilia because of the idea that women are most fertile when they hit puberty.

---

They site alot of evidence for this such as the fact in graphs depicting egg health by age, it starts at 20 [evil conspiracy from the jews to hide muh truth]
View attachment 4680855View attachment 4680856View attachment 4680858
[literally first 3 graphs I could find on google]
Also the idea that, well, it just sounds right. The idea that the most healthy eggs come first, and that until 1 and a half centuries ago, women as young as 12 got married [both my grandparents on both sides of my family were married by 14-16]

---

But, assuming this is true, wouldn't the ideal age to give women the healthiest eggs, evolutionary speaking, be around when they hit adulthood, since then they'd have experience raising children?
View attachment 4680868
Yes. Graph from a study on pregnancy related mortality rate, by maternal age, by region, the healthiest babies are born from mothers aged 20-24
View attachment 4680907
Another graph I made using MatPlotLib with the data for the Americas
So no, your fascination with a perfect 15 year old innocent girl is not goatis natural raw primal, it's a disordered way of thinking.
View attachment 4680875
Tl;Dr: The most natural age to be attracted to after hitting age 20 is 20-24, not around 15

---

Further reading:

The Best Age for Pregnancy and Undue Pressures - PMC

In western countries we assist at the paradox that fertility is socially discouraged by a mindset that depicts fertility as a resource to exploit as late as possible. So, couples have high expectative about the advantages of delayed parenthood, but ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Women married at 16 before brotha and at 16 thier offspring are still more better than a 30 year old or a 40 year old one

 

[mcmentalonthemic]

Women married at 16 before brotha and at 16 thier offspring are still more better than a 30 year old or a 40 year old one

ok