Rhinoplasty surgeons in Europe who can fix an upturned nose?

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Patients with increased upwards rotation of the nose present with a short nose and an excessive amount of nostril show (Figure 22-1). Fortunately, this is not one of the more commonly encountered problems. Analysis of the face involves lateral inspection of the nasolabial angle. As stated earlier, the normal nasolabial angle for women is approximately 100 degrees to 105 degrees and that for men is 95 degrees to 100 degrees. Another important measurement is the nasofacial angle, which lies between the dorsal nasal line and the facial plane. Here, the values are roughly 36 degrees for males and 34 degrees for females.

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I believe that this approach will only fix an upward rotated tip of the nose, but not the whole nose. My nose bridge is also low and over rotated and my nasofrontal angle is low.

I know that bridge/radix augmentation exists for this, but I am not sure if it can be performed at the same time, and of how common it is. I also found a surgery called glabellar augmentation which seems to achieve the same result, of increasing the nasofrontal angle :

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Glabellar Augmentation The area superior to the radix is called the glabella (nasion), which extends from the inner margin of the bilateral eyebrows to the

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But I have no idea which surgeon does this.

I only know of Dr. Lamperti who performs bridge augmentation in Seattle. I am interested in more surgeons, specifically in Europe.

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I believe that this approach will only fix an upward rotated tip of the nose, but not the whole nose. My nose bridge is also low and over rotated and my nasofrontal angle is low.

I know that bridge/radix augmentation exists for this, but I am not sure if it can be performed at the same time, and of how common it is. I also found a surgery called glabellar augmentation which seems to achieve the same result, of increasing the nasofrontal angle :

Glabellar Augmentation - Nose | Wish Aesthetic Surgery Clinic

Glabellar Augmentation The area superior to the radix is called the glabella (nasion), which extends from the inner margin of the bilateral eyebrows to the

wishclinic.com.tw

But I have no idea which surgeon does this.

I only know of Dr. Lamperti who performs bridge augmentation in Seattle. I am interested in more surgeons, specifically in Europe.

Bridge Augmentation | Rhinoplasty in Seattle | Rhinoplasty Surgeon

www.rhinoplastyinseattle.com

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@RealSurgerymax

Bro, it is a BASIC procedure really. Nose tip is somewhat rotated in almost ALL rhinoplasties.

So there is really no point in asking "who can fix an upturned nose". ALL OF THEM can. And do it with high quality.

 

[Deleted member 8988]

Bro, it is a BASIC procedure really. Nose tip is somewhat rotated in almost ALL rhinoplasties.

So there is really no point in asking "who can fix an upturned nose". ALL OF THEM can. And do it with high quality.

well that is not true at all, not true if you actually understood that what I want is a downward rotation of the tip. What is indeed common is an upward rotation of the nasal tip, something expected because it creates a more feminine or youthful look, and most patients are women.

Also if you would have read the post you would have seen that correcting an over rotated tip is not the only concern I have. I also want to know which surgeons can augment the nasal bridge and if the this procedure can be done at the same time. List me any surgeon who does this in Europe or even talks about it. I am waiting.

 

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Meet me london geezah.. I will fix your up turned nose with my fist. Cost 200 dollars.

 

[Deleted member 16380]

well that is not true at all, not true if you actually understood that what I want is a downward rotation of the tip. What is indeed common is an upward rotation of the nasal tip, something expected because it creates a more feminine or youthful look, and most patients are women.

Also if you would have read the post you would have seen that correcting an over rotated tip is not the only concern I have. I also want to know which surgeons can augument the nasal bridge and if the this procedure can be done at the same time. List me any surgeon who does this in Europe or even talks about it. I am waiting.

Bro, UPTURNING the tip is as common as DOWNTURNING it. Really. Idk why you want it to seem like some "exotic" procedure when it is not. Go to a rhinoplasty consultation they ALL do it.

Nasal bridge augmentation is ALSO A COMMON THING.

It is a WELL KNOWN FACT that males want downturned/90-degree nose tip. Every plastic surgeon who does rhinoplasties has this qualification. Every one of them also knows how to adjust your nose bridge. Nose bridge adjustment is the SINGLE MOST COMMON procedure in both men and women, bread and butter if you can say so. Because most cases come from accidents/broken noses, and nasal bridge HAS TO BE FIXED in all those cases.

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ANY experienced rhinoplasty surgeon in a nordic country does ALL OF THESE. Damn, any rhinoplasty surgeon in EU, Russia, Mexico, etc does that.

Go to Finland, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, ANYWHERE.

 

[Deleted member 8988]

Bro, UPTURNING the tip is as common as DOWNTURNING it. Really. Idk why you want it to seem like some "exotic" procedure when it is not. Go to a rhinoplasty consultation they ALL do it.

Nasal bridge augmentation is ALSO A COMMON THING.

It is a WELL KNOWN FACT that males want downturned/90-degree nose tip. Every plastic surgeon who does rhinoplasties has this qualification. Every one of them also knows how to adjust your nose bridge. Nose bridge adjustment is the SINGLE MOST COMMON procedure in both men and women, bread and butter if you can say so. Because most cases come from accidents/broken noses, and nasal bridge HAS TO BE FIXED in all those cases.

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ANY experienced rhinoplasty surgeon in a nordic country does ALL OF THESE. Damn, any rhinoplasty surgeon in EU, Russia, Mexico, etc does that.

Go to Finland, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, ANYWHERE.

Ok, my bad then. I rarely ever see results concerning any of those two procedures, or see it talked about on surgeons/clinics websites, or even on this site, but whatever. It must be my lack of knowledge. But its a fact that I never claimed that those are some exotic type of procedures. Reread my post. I wanted to know the name of some surgeons who do it in Europe, but I guess that my mistake was in not saying "best surgeons" because my aim seems another one. You even said "any experienced surgeon knows..." so why not give any insight into this? I am not sure why are you so aggressive.

 

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Bro, UPTURNING the tip is as common as DOWNTURNING it. Really. Idk why you want it to seem like some "exotic" procedure when it is not. Go to a rhinoplasty consultation they ALL do it.

Nasal bridge augmentation is ALSO A COMMON THING.

It is a WELL KNOWN FACT that males want downturned/90-degree nose tip. Every plastic surgeon who does rhinoplasties has this qualification. Every one of them also knows how to adjust your nose bridge. Nose bridge adjustment is the SINGLE MOST COMMON procedure in both men and women, bread and butter if you can say so. Because most cases come from accidents/broken noses, and nasal bridge HAS TO BE FIXED in all those cases.

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ANY experienced rhinoplasty surgeon in a nordic country does ALL OF THESE. Damn, any rhinoplasty surgeon in EU, Russia, Mexico, etc does that.

Go to Finland, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, ANYWHERE.

Most rhino results is of them making the nose smaller and more upturned
its much harder to find results where they make it more downturned/bigger

 

[Deleted member 16380]

Ok, my bad then. I rarely ever see results concerning any of those two procedures, or see it talked about on surgeons/clinics websites, or even on this site, but whatever. It must be my lack of knowledge. But its a fact that I never claimed that those are some exotic type of procedures. Reread my post. I wanted to know the name of some surgeons who do it in Europe, but I guess that my mistake was in not saying "best surgeons" because my aim seems another one. You even said "any experienced surgeon knows..." so why not give any insight into this? I am not sure why are you so aggressive.

I am just explaining to you straight that the procedures you described are quite common, and done by any plastic surgeon who specializes in rhino. Not my intention to be aggressive.

As for insight, well, you can NEVER be sure of their skill. Rhinoplasty while commonly done is the simplest way to fuck up your face. Cause way too many things can go wrong. For example, for your tip, if you have thick skin, the operation becomes way harder, and they will have to shave off your bone just to adjust your tip properly.

WHo can do this well? You never know 100%. even the best fuck up from time to time and you need a revision. I would suggest picking a surgeon who had male patients, AND has photos to demonstrate. Of course, he should have all the qualifications and HUGE experience (try 15+ years) in rhinoplasty.

 

[Deleted member 16380]

Most rhino results is of them making the nose smaller and more upturned
its much harder to find results where they make it more downturned/bigger

It is because these are both for MALES. And as we know, males rarely need or want rhinoplasty, unlike foids. SO, obviously it will be hard to find the male results = downturned + bigger, since these are fewer.

But it does not matter that these procedures are any harder than upturning the nose tip.

 

[Deleted member 8988]

WHo can do this well? You never know 100%. even the best fuck up from time to time and you need a revision. I would suggest picking a surgeon who had male patients, AND has photos to demonstrate. Of course, he should have all the qualifications and HUGE experience (try 15+ years) in rhinoplasty.

Thats what I am concerned about. I see more bad rhinoplasty results where the nasal tip is raised in males, or the nose is simply feminised in some way, than I do of downturning the tip, so I made this presumption that the downturning of a nose tip is something rarely done, or not well known by surgeons/more difficult. But I am here to learn.

And unfortunately my nose is truly fucked up so I really need this. And I might get it before bimax because you need to wait at least 1-2 years where I am from as you need braces before surgery and the consultations are often postponed.

 

[Deleted member 16380]

It is because these are both for MALES. And as we know, males rarely need or want rhinoplasty, unlike foids. SO, obviously it will be hard to find the male results = downturned + bigger, since these are fewer.

But it does not matter that these procedures are any harder than upturning the nose tip.

ALSO, JUST to clarify. downturning the nose tip is a routine procedure. Bridge augmentation is routine too in MOST cases.

Making nose bigger is the HARDEST for any surgeon, because it involves grafting. It is either done by repositioning the nose's own cartilage, OR by taking a sample of the rib. This shit is quite involved.

But OP did not mention making his nose bigger, so his still falls under "routine".

 

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ALSO, JUST to clarify. downturning the nose tip is a routine procedure. Bridge augmentation is routine too in MOST cases.

Making nose bigger is the HARDEST for any surgeon, because it involves grafting. It is either done by repositioning the nose's own cartilage, OR by taking a sample of the rib. This shit is quite involved.

But OP did not mention making his nose bigger, so his still falls under "routine".

LOL isnt that what augmentation even means? Yes, I possibly do need a bigger nose bridge, and that was something I explored in OP. In the case when simply lowering the nasal tip will not achieve the desired nasofrontal angle.

 

[Deleted member 16380]

Thats what I am concerned about. I see more bad rhinoplasty results where the nasal tip is raised in males, or the nose is simply feminised in some way, than I do of downturning the tip, so I made this presumption that the downturning of a nose tip is something rarely done, or not well known by surgeons/more difficult. But I am here to learn.

You do not really know the details here, no offence. This is why it is important to consult a real SURGEON in PERSON, and not incels like us here.

You see those upturned noses in "after" photos on males, BECAUSE IT IS HOW IT LOOKS LIKE INITIALLY. It is done like this on purpose. Then, the nose tip gradually drops down under the force of gravity within a month or two until it forms an aesthetic male 90-degree angle.

If the surgeon does not do this, you will look nice in an immediate "after" photo, and then in 2 months you will be stuck with a Jewish nose.

Looking at pictures on the internet, not knowing details, is not something you should do if you are seriously planning such a body modification.

 

[Deleted member 16380]

LOL isnt that what augmentation even means? Yes, I possibly do need a bigger nose bridge, and that was something I explored in OP. In the case when simply lowering the nasal tip will not achieve the desired nasofrontal angle.

No, not usually. In most cases, you do not need any additional tissue for your nose.

THe only types of patients that routinely need grafting are burn victims and asians. E.g. sth like this:

Do you have the same bridge and want to lift it?

PS. To be frank, your OP has a similar example with the black guy i missed it. Anyways...

PPS. If you need this btw, Fillers are ideal to try the "new look". Liquid rhinoplasty. That is, if you are not afraid of possible blindness.

 

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THe only types of patients that routinely need grafting are burn victims and asians. E.g. sth like this:

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Do you have the same bridge and want to lift it?

PS. To be frank, your OP has a similar example with the black guy i missed it. Anyways...

then we are not talking about the same procedure:

augmentation​

A surgical enhancement/plasty procedure in which a body part (e.g., breast, buttocks, cheeks, chin) is enhanced with Gore-Tex, fat, fibrous tissue, etc

So what is the best way to augment the bridge? The options basically boil down to whether to use a patient's own tissue (cartilage, bone, fascia) versus a synthetic product (silicone, medpore, or gortex). Dr. Lamperti prefers using a patient's own tissue for augmenting the nasal bridge (septal, ear or rib cartilage) as it is incorporated into the nose in the most natural manner. While there are risks with warping of cartilage grafts (mainly with rib cartilage), by using advanced cartilage carving techniques Dr. Lamperti has not found this to be an issue in his own practice. In some cases Dr. Lamperti will even finely dice the cartilage and wrap it in a thin fascia graft before inserting it on the bridge. Another alternative cartilage source is irradiated rib cartilage from a tissue bank.

but anyway, this is only about semantics at this point.

I am not asian nor have a small enough nose, so probably I do not need the bridge augmented. I was unsure about this and its one of the reasons I made this thread.

 

[Deleted member 16380]

then we are not talking about the same procedure:


but anyway, this is only about semantics at this point.

Well, anyways, they all still do it. If you need this, it will just be harder to find a surgeon who is more experienced.

Go for a consultation, they will directly tell you what you need, and if they can achieve that. No sane licensed surgeon would do an operation on you, when they are not certain of the result.

I would also suggest you go to a place which does 3D modelling for you face, with a program like Crisalix. They will demonstrate to you exactly what the final result is supposed to look like.

Good luck!

 

[Hombremacho]

No, not usually. In most cases, you do not need any additional tissue for your nose.

THe only types of patients that routinely need grafting are burn victims and asians. E.g. sth like this:

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Do you have the same bridge and want to lift it?

PS. To be frank, your OP has a similar example with the black guy i missed it. Anyways...

PPS. If you need this btw, Fillers are ideal to try the "new look". Liquid rhinoplasty. That is, if you are not afraid of possible blindness.

Can it be made with cartilage? Probably if I change my maxillary projection I will need this.

 

[Deleted member 16380]

Can it be made with cartilage?

I think this is routine IF you HAVE the cartilage... If they do not cut off parts of your tip, then you do not have spare cartilage, and they have to take it from the rib.

E.g. you probably saw Michael Jackson nose? The reason his nose looked like that was the he was doing the bridge with his own nose cartilage, and they took so much through endless surgeries, that the tip of the nose just fell through into his skull...

 

[Hombremacho]

I think this is routine IF you HAVE the cartilage... If they do not cut off parts of your tip, then you do not have spare cartilage, and they have to take it from the rib.

I prefer that to fillers, is it still dangerous to the eyes?

 

[Deleted member 16380]

I prefer that to fillers - is it still dangerous to the eyes?

Yeah, if I needed it, I personally would not go for fillers, but straight to rhinoplasty.

Fillers would be ok if it were once, but you would have to repeat every year... too much risk IMO...

 

[Hombremacho]

But what makes it dangerous to the eyes for a surgeon to inadvertently cut your eye?

Another thing nosepilled, do you know why when Niggas and Rice people have their nostrils reduced they look so strange or rounded? I mean it must have a cause. When I see it on whites sometimes they look effeminate but they have better results.

I have a good nose but I will probably expand my palate, I thought I wouldn't do it because I was told by an orthodontist but apparently the guy wants to extract teeth. I'll do sarpe instead of going for the filthy extraction and it's for sure I'll need rhino. The other option is MSE and I'm afraid of being effeminate as I already have lateral projection of zygos or damaging my ES ratio.

 

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Ah the two biggest curses to SMV

Well, if they are a burn victim, their SMV concerns them the least, I would guess...

... there the question is about leaving home so that not everyone in the street is staring at them

 

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Look at some names on the european rhinoplasty society
It shouldnt be a big problem for someone skilled , if its not a revision case

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[zeek]

Nasal tip rotation is a common maneuver. Any rhinoplasty specialist especially one doing a lot of bridge augmentation will also do this. It’s common in Asia as well, korean surgeons do it in almost every rhinoplasty.

European surgeons are generally shit lol.

 

[Deleted member 16375]

Upturned nose is ideal

 

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[Bdh]

Turkish surgeons will just do whatever you tell them to.