risks outweigh benefits if u add tren to ur test cycle

[AtrophicPyra]

people usually forget safety os no.1 in any protocol and think tren which is horrible for your body will ascend u far more than test ever will.

people also forget test converts to dht which is 3-5x more androgen binding on bone than test and is similar to tren due to that.

it ovecomplicates the cycle and is simply not needed esp if ur 15 without bloodwork.

 

[Stacyslayerᛉ]

people usually forget safety os no.1 in any protocol and think tren which is horrible for your body will ascend u far more than test ever will.

people also forget test converts to dht which is 3-5x more androgen binding than test and is similar to tren due to that.

it ovecomplicates the cycle and is simply not needed esp if ur 15 without bloodwork.

dunno bout that one, brah.

as little as 25mg can make a hugeeee difference alr.

 

[dragomog]

if u wanna risk its good

 

[aryanwantsadvice]

DHT is not necessary for muscle growth, androgen binding via dht is a bad argument. test is usualloy enuff though for 90% of. pepolpe

 

[aryanwantsadvice]

20-40mg of pharma tren per week is not the worst ifu control prolaitn and bp

 

[AtrophicPyra]

dunno bout that one, brah.

as little as 25mg can make a hugeeee difference alr.

studies evidence ANYTHING to prove 25mg can make a huge difference?

 

[idontmogu]

dnr just run it

 

[AtrophicPyra]

DHT is not necessary for muscle growth, androgen binding via dht is a bad argument. test is usualloy enuff though for 90% of. pepolpe

referring more towards bones mb g should have mentioned

 

[aryanwantsadvice]

referring more towards bones mb g should have mentioned

haha for sure, even then in pubertty - as androgenic has said - if ur a subhuman low dose tren can give the androgen density for facial bnes which test alone and hgh can't

 

[AtrophicPyra]

haha for sure, even then in pubertty - as androgenic has said - if ur a subhuman low dose tren can give the androgen density for facial bnes which test alone and hgh can't

tren barely makes ur androgen receptors denser and its inconsistent how would 25-50mg even do anything anyway and do u rlly wanna waste money on a billion liver ancilaries when all u would need is bp meds for the test and l cart for hgh?

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

Why dont you just take some blood thiner and slit your wrists?

 

[MyDreamIsToBe183CM]

Why dont you just take some blood thiner and slit your wrists?

Shut the fuck up

 

[AtrophicPyra]

Why dont you just take some blood thiner and slit your wrists?

sooo sinister and edgy

 

[MyDreamIsToBe183CM]

sooo sinister and edgy

This is him btw

 

[AtrophicPyra]

This is him btw
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lmao he was debating me a week ago abt how rats are not a viable rodent to test drugs and never wanted to admit he was wrong and kept on making up shit now hes telling me to kill myself

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

lmao he was debating me a week ago abt how rats are not a viable rodent to test drugs and never wanted to admit he was wrong and kept on making up shit now hes telling me to kill myself

You offered to prove me wrong, i asked about relevant proof, you didnt even acknowledge it becaude you didnt have s clue because you didnt even know the topic before i asked you, we kept debating, you specifically offered proof again for all your claims, i asked for the proof, you dodged ut and started making horrible arguments out of assumption, i kept asking for the proof, you kept dodging it.

You are a fucking jester, if you dont even have shred of evidence behind your beliefs there is nothing to debate about

Delete your account. @Zagro Please make another thread like you did with ahmed but on this nigga

 

[AtrophicPyra]

You offered to prove me wrong, i asked about relevant proof, you didnt even acknowledge it, we kept debating, you specifically offered proof again for all your claims, i asked for the proof, you dodged ut and started making horrible arguments out of assumption, i kept asking for the proof, you kept dodging it.

You are a fucking jester, if you dont even have shred of evidence behind your beliefs there is nothing to debate about

Delete your account. @Zagro Please make another thread like you did with ahmed but on this nigga

lmao i showed you proof on 2 of the 5 topics we kept playing musical chairs around, each time i proved you wrong you switched topics to try and prove me wrong. i showed u pubmed studies dont bullshit i can show screenshots

maybe YOU need blood thinners i think i just spiked ur blood pressure jfl

most of the stuff i was saying were proven non negotiable statements its like saying show me a study that grass is green

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

lmao i showed you proof on 2 of the 5 topics we kept playing musical chairs around, each time i proved you wrong you switched topics to try and prove me wrong. i showed u pubmed studies dont bullshit i can show screenshots

In beggining you provided 2 shit studies, ehich i explained why they csnt be extrspolated, also before you offered proof for your later claims. You are scientifically illiterate, and i doubt you barely read it even

maybe YOU need blood thinners i think i just spiked ur blood pressure jfl

yeah because that makes sense jfl

 

[AtrophicPyra]

In beggining you provided 2 shit studies, ehich i explained why they csnt be extrspolated, also before you offered proof for your later claims. You are scientifically illiterate, and i doubt you barely read it even

yeah because that makes sense jfl

those studies are not bullshit literally proved that the study was viable proof oh my goodness i even screenshotted the part of the study that i read

blood thinners lower blood pressure indirectly insignificantly dipshit

 

[Zagro]

You offered to prove me wrong, i asked about relevant proof, you didnt even acknowledge it becaude you didnt have s clue because you didnt even know the topic before i asked you, we kept debating, you specifically offered proof again for all your claims, i asked for the proof, you dodged ut and started making horrible arguments out of assumption, i kept asking for the proof, you kept dodging it.

You are a fucking jester, if you dont even have shred of evidence behind your beliefs there is nothing to debate about

Delete your account. @Zagro Please make another thread like you did with ahmed but on this nigga

Why are you even debating this retard he solely uses GPT for info and that’s proven

This was me when i debated that donkey-fucker he just sent random studies he found with GPT that are not even remotely comparable, don’t fall into his bait

 

[Zagro]

people usually forget safety os no.1 in any protocol and think tren which is horrible for your body will ascend u far more than test ever will.

people also forget test converts to dht which is 3-5x more androgen binding on bone than test and is similar to tren due to that.

it ovecomplicates the cycle and is simply not needed esp if ur 15 without bloodwork.

And there you go nigga there’s zero truth here, locally converted DHT intraskeletal is 40-fold more potent but does it compare to the properties tren has? No negro

Bitch thinks any dose of tren just makes your heart explode, this is what happens when you rely on GPT and get fear-mongered to death

Make one more fucking thread like this and you’ll be my next target you fucking homo, you have 20 posts claiming you have the “elite” “best” stack and it’s some random bullshit like bpc and tb500 for bones

 

[AtrophicPyra]

Why are you even debating this retard he solely uses GPT for info and that’s proven

This was me when i debated that donkey-fucker he just sent random studies he found with GPT that are not even remotely comparable, don’t fall into his bait

zagro god of information 1000000000iq vs highly intiligent artifical bot

i can link u the thread i made to show u how retarded he was at trying to prove me wrong


@Zagro still wont debate me for some reason its been a week lmao

 

[Zagro]

zagro god of information 1000000000iq vs highly intiligent artifical bot

i can link u the thread i made to show u how retarded he was at trying to prove me wrong


@Zagro still wont debate me for some reason its been a week lmao

What debate? Which debate? i never told you I’ll debate you if i did it was probably the most bullshit easiest debate so i forgot probably

Tag me in that supposed “debate”

“Highly intelligent artificial bot”

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

What debate? Which debate? i never told you I’ll debate you if i did it was probably the most bullshit easiest debate so i forgot probably

Tag me in that supposed “debate”

“Highly intelligent artificial bot”

Do not agree to this

Male on male rape porn is not allowed on this forum. Follow the rules

 

[AtrophicPyra]

And there you go nigga there’s zero truth here, locally converted DHT intraskeletal is 40-fold more potent but does it compare to the properties tren has? No negro

Bitch thinks any dose of tren just makes your heart explode, this is what happens when you rely on GPT and get fear-mongered to death

Make one more fucking thread like this and you’ll be my next target you fucking homo, you have 20 posts claiming you have the “elite” “best” stack and it’s some random bullshit like bpc and tb500 for bones

explain how 25-50mg tren wont overcomplicate your cycle and potentially harm u if left without ancilaries.

the only way to recognize if i got my info from gpt is if you use it too, yk alot abt gpts responses leading me to conlcude you probably use it too.
alot of people on this forum use gpt i can tell from responses only bec i use it 70% of the time aswel to link me studies and answer questions. your not edgy for wasting ur time ineffeciently gaining knowledge

forgot which thread ill find it you said u would debate me "tmrw" after u skip school

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

the only way to recognize if i got my info from gpt is if you use it too, yk alot abt gpts responses leading me to conlcude you probably use it too.
alot of people on this forum use gpt i can tell from responses only bec i use it 70% of the time aswel to link me studies and answer questions.

Your posts make a lot more sense now, chat gpt gets simple math questions wrong like 35% of the time

 

[AtrophicPyra]

Your posts make a lot more sense now, chat gpt gets simple math questions wrong like 35% of the time

which means you had been proven wrong by a retarded chat bot

let me clarify, i use gpt to both link me pubmed studies and anwer my questions but anyway im not gonna get defensive over using gpt since everybody uses it and your lying if you say you havent.

actually i kinda believe you dont use gpt, nigga said rats are not a viable rodent to test drugs and hes been on org since 2024

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

which means you had been proven wrong by a retarded chat bot

Proven wrong according to who? A person that csnnot nor wont even interpret a study?

actually i kinda believe you dont use gpt, nigga said rats are not a viable rodent to test drugs and hes been on org since 2024

I didnt ssy that, dont strawman me, i said rat studies cannot be extrapolated to humans but they sre instead used to create and improve theories, which is water

 

[AtrophicPyra]

Proven wrong according to who? A person that csnnot nor wont even interpret a study?


I didnt ssy that, dont strawman me, i said rat studies cannot be extrapolated to humans but they sre instead used to create and improve theories, which is water

the topic was about bones, you said rodents such as rats are not viable to test drugs that affect bones.
i clearly stated and proven that rodents and rats are 100% valid to test drugs that affect bones due to the similarity of the layers and structure. they are made to improve theories and create them but if a drug that scientists test on rats promotes chrondrocytes then it will also promote chrondrocytes in humans aswel which u denied.

i read the studies that i sent you and i even screenshotted the part that was in the study that i mentioned after you said " you read it and it was an unrelated study"

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

the topic was about bones, you said rodents such as rats are not viable to test drugs that affect bones.
i clearly stated and proven that rodents and rats are 100% valid to test drugs that affect bones due to the similarity of the layers and structure. they are made to improve theories and create them but if a drug that scientists test on rats promotes chrondrocytes then it will also promote chrondrocytes in humans aswel which u denied.

Yes because again we dont have identical receptors, senescence systems etc, there are relevant differences in growth, in fact there has to be in order for them to grow faster

There is so many downstream effects in biology as everything is connected as one system that you can sit and theoretically circlebjerk around whatever flr any purpose and reason for it, but can it give signifant results is a different question, and not even the best scientists are able to make quantitative analisyses from only theory, this is why you need empirical evidence to prove or disprove it. And thats why you can never nor will ever be able to get a compound recognized as functioning by any lehit scientific institution without empirical evidence

 

[Zagro]

which means you had been proven wrong by a retarded chat bot

let me clarify, i use gpt to both link me pubmed studies and anwer my questions but anyway im not gonna get defensive over using gpt since everybody uses it and your lying if you say you havent.

actually i kinda believe you dont use gpt, nigga said rats are not a viable rodent to test drugs and hes been on org since 2024

Rats aren't 1:1 human and not comparable in 95% of trials they really rape those rats and injected everything locally or infuse I.V 24/7 to monitor effects, also if you actually read the studies you may provide most of them are done when rats are newborns so anything for bone growth that works on rats doesn't on humans atleast not how you think it does.

Their peptideases/oligopeptideases are different from what I've heard so most of the shit studies you may provide don't mean anything

 

[Zagro]

Do not agree to this

Male on male rape porn is not allowed on this forum. Follow the rules

“JBG bro!” brootal

explain how 25-50mg tren wont overcomplicate your cycle and potentially harm u if left without ancilaries.

Explain how it will? I’d argue that it wont even change your bloodwork ever so slightly.

First off all why are you on cycle without ancillaries? Are you running 100mg test and calling it a cycle? If you’re that health conscious (high-inhib pussy) even with a modest stack you’ll either have everything else e.g. training, diet and lifestyle locked in or have some meds or even both. So the added bitchy dose of 50mg tren wont do shit, if it’s enanthate it already becomes like 35mg, if you aren’t a retard and have the base ancillaries and actually are health conscious even 100mg weekly wont hit you mildly.

the only way to recognize if i got my info from gpt is if you use it too, yk alot abt gpts responses leading me to conlcude you probably use it too.
alot of people on this forum use gpt i can tell from responses only bec i use it 70% of the time aswel to link me studies and answer questions. your not edgy for wasting ur time ineffeciently gaining knowledge

I have debated GPT hundreds of times in my free time to prove my parents wrong about multiple topics, as my brother's only source is ai this had to be done. I know every single counter-argument GPT has for topics I’m interested in. I also know how it exactly formats and explains things, how it fear-mongers and how it tells you the side-effects.

Absolutely NONE of GPT’s average response match my takes like ZERO, thus the reason I have to debate retards like you and Ahmed every now and then because it directly conflicts what GPT has taught y’all, i can directly see if one has used GPT because to know the truth you need to be able to understand even the basics of biology, pharmacology and such topics. Otherwise GPT wont extrapolate or think outside of the box for you, never will it do that, and only when pressed about it will it accept that it made a mistake and that you’re actually correct.

Yeah maybe look at my last hundred posts where i just spot out people using GPT and them being all aggressive and declining it, just to give up in the end and tell me they used it and ask for advice

You wont learn anything from GPT, which you should have noticed after getting your asscheeks clapped and flamed in every single thread by other users

forgot which thread ill find it you said u would debate me "tmrw" after u skip school

I have like 5-10 people still waiting for a reply maybe as long as they don't enrage me or make bullshit claims i tend to just take a nice nap after i post shit like that sorry mate you didn't catch my interest

 

[AtrophicPyra]

Yes because again we dont have identical receptors, senescence systems etc, there are relevant differences in growth, in fact there has to be in order for them to grow faster

There is so many downstream effects in biology as everything is connected as one system that you can sit and theoretically circlebjerk around whatever flr any purpose and reason for it, but can it give signifant results is a different question, and not even the best scientists are able to make quantitative analisyses from only theory, this is why you need empirical evidence to prove or disprove it. And thats why you can never nor will ever be able to get a compound recognized as functioning by any lehit scientific institution without empirical evidence

bro we literally do have near identical receptors, and once again its good they have faster dividing cells easier to conduct experiments on.
why r u steering away from the fact we were talking about bones. "there is so many downstream effects in biology" nigga did i disagree obv we are fucking different. scientists use them for preclinical studies btw.

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

bro we literally do have identical receptors, and once again

again its good they have faster dividing cells easier to conduct experiments on.

Sure, but for practicality, not for accuracy

why r u steering away from the fact we were talking about bones. "there is so many downstream effects in biology" nigga did i disagree obv we are fucking different.

You did, you basically said that our similar biology means you can extrapolate rat studies to humans

scientists use them for preclinical studies btw.

Take a guess why we need clinicals after preclinicals and thwy dont just get approved. And take a guess why you still need to prove both efficacy and safety

 

[AtrophicPyra]

“JBG bro!” brootal


Explain how it will? I’d argue that it wont even change your bloodwork ever so slightly.

First off all why are you on cycle without ancillaries? Are you running 100mg test and calling it a cycle? If you’re that health conscious (high-inhib pussy) even with a modest stack you’ll either have everything else e.g. training, diet and lifestyle locked in or have some meds or even both. So the added bitchy dose of 50mg tren wont do shit, if it’s enanthate it already becomes like 35mg, if you aren’t a retard and have the base ancillaries and actually are health conscious even 100mg weekly wont hit you mildly.


I have debated GPT hundreds of times in my free time to prove my parents wrong about multiple topics, as my brother's only source is ai this had to be done. I know every single counter-argument GPT has for topics I’m interested in. I also know how it exactly formats and explains things, how it fear-mongers and how it tells you the side-effects.

Absolutely NONE of GPT’s average response match my takes like ZERO, thus the reason I have to debate retards like you and Ahmed every now and then because it directly conflicts what GPT has taught y’all, i can directly see if one has used GPT because to know the truth you need to be able to understand even the basics of biology, pharmacology and such topics. Otherwise GPT wont extrapolate or think outside of the box for you, never will it do that, and only when pressed about it will it accept that it made a mistake and that you’re actually correct.

Yeah maybe look at my last hundred posts where i just spot out people using GPT and them being all aggressive and declining it, just to give up in the end and tell me they used it and ask for advice

You wont learn anything from GPT, which you should have noticed after getting your asscheeks clapped and flamed in every single thread by other users


I have like 5-10 people still waiting for a reply maybe as long as they don't enrage me or make bullshit claims i tend to just take a nice nap after i post shit like that sorry mate you didn't catch my interest

bro made up a story out of thin air but anyway ok ig u dont use chatgpt totally. and also obv im using fucking ancilaries.

androgens and chrondrocyte proliferation is all u need u dont need to be a genius to understand that. trust me u dont have gatekept info i got all the info i needed in a couple weeks on how to optimize your body stop inflating ur ego.

tren 50mg isnt useless i guess i agree, but once again im talking realistic nobody has the balls to run tren and it overcomplicates the cycle.

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Sure, but for practicality, not for accuracy


You did, you basically said that our similar biology means you can extrapolate rat studies to humans

Take a guess why we need clinicals after preclinicals and thwy dont just get approved. And take a guess why you still need to prove both efficacy and safety

never said it went from rats to fda approved WTF

love how you both are sucking each other off raping me in the middle

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

never said it went from rats to fda approved WTF

Are you retarded? The point wasnt hard to miss. Byt the point was that approval is the recognition that a med works, and you cannot get that recognition from rat studies, meaning rat studies are not able to reasonably be taken as proof

 

[AtrophicPyra]

Are you retarded? The point wasnt hard to miss. Byt the point was that approval is the recognition that a med works, and you cannot get that recognition from rat studies, meaning rat studies are not able to reasonably be taken as proof

ok so scientists dont test meds like tyra300 on healthy boys who are looking to become 7foot slenderman pilled demons so you dont really have a choice but to trust the studys that scientists test on rats. and given the biology of the rats skeletal cells we can confidently confirm that tyra300 on rats is probably going to work identical to tyra300 on humans if we ignore the studies of tyra300 on humans

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

ok so scientists dont test meds like tyra300 on healthy boys who are looking to become 7foot slenderman pilled demons so you dont really have a choice but to trust the studys that scientists test on rats. and given the biology of the rats skeletal cells we can confidently confirm that tyra300 on rats is probably going to work identical to tyra300 on humans if we ignore the studies of tyra300 on humans

You have a choice, you can stay consistent in your standard of evidence

Lack of good evidence doesnt turn bad evidence good

If i say i have a magical unicorn in my room you have absolutely 0 contradicting evidence but the only evidence you have is a witness statement, does that mean you have to trust me? No of course not, and no 85+ iq person would even entertain that kind of logic

 

[Zagro]

bro made up a story out of thin air but anyway ok ig u dont use chatgpt totally. and also obv im using fucking ancilaries.

https://looksmax.org/members/zagro.88665/page-2#profile-post-comment-425162

Type my name in the member sections and search with the key word parents, you joined in 2026 so it's expected that you don't know my ventures with my parents.

If you use ancillaries which isn't even a need this is considering you're pussy or health conscious enough to do everything in your capacity to stay healthy which I would still endorse strongly, you will not even take the slightest hit from 50mg tren.

androgens and chrondrocyte proliferation is all u need u dont need to be a genius to understand that. trust me u dont have gatekept info i got all the info i needed in a couple weeks on how to optimize your body stop inflating ur ego.

You don't know any of the caveeats, you've gone into zero-depth in these topics you're at the top of the iceberg as corny as that may sound. You're right you don't have to be a genius to understand that cells proliferation means more cells = more growth but this is the same shit as knowing that chondrocytes are cartilage cells, this is the bare minimum you need to know and there is thousands of compounds that do this.

I only share maybe half of the story most of the time and wont even counter-argument in debates just to not share that info. I do not give a fuck about anyone like you on the forum trust me, you know 5% of what i know maybe, fun fact did you know your growth plates have a circadian rhythm? This is one of the hundreds of shit you have no idea about and i will share some in my next rhGH thread so jits like you can learn.

"tren 50mg isnt useless i guess i agree, but once again im talking realistic nobody has the balls to run tren and it overcomplicates the cycle." Nobody has the balls as they compare the sides of running 500mg to 50mg weekly and get their info from GPT just like you do and it does not overcomplicate anything.

 

[Zagro]

ok so scientists dont test meds like tyra300 on healthy boys who are looking to become 7foot slenderman pilled demons so you dont really have a choice but to trust the studys that scientists test on rats. and given the biology of the rats skeletal cells we can confidently confirm that tyra300 on rats is probably going to work identical to tyra300 on humans if we ignore the studies of tyra300 on humans

Do you know that like anything grows bones in rats?

Take myo-inositol for 4mm mandible projection bro it worked in rats so it must work for us too innit

 

[AtrophicPyra]

You have a choice, you can stay consistent in your standard of evidence

Lack of good evidence doesnt turn bad evidence good

If i say i have a magical unicorn in my room you have absolutely 0 contradicting evidence but the only evidence you have is a witness statement, does that mean you have to trust me? No of course not, and no 85+ iq person would even entertain that kind of logic

the studies are not magical unicorns in ur room they r real

Do you know that like anything grows bones in rats?

Take myo-inositol for 4mm mandible projection bro it worked in rats so it must work for us too innit

why wouldnt it help mandible project in humans? who knows maybe it willl need to read more abt that compound

https://looksmax.org/members/zagro.88665/page-2#profile-post-comment-425162

Type my name in the member sections and search with the key word parents, you joined in 2026 so it's expected that you don't know my ventures with my parents.

If you use ancillaries which isn't even a need this is considering you're pussy or health conscious enough to do everything in your capacity to stay healthy which I would still endorse strongly, you will not even take the slightest hit from 50mg tren.


You don't know any of the caveeats, you've gone into zero-depth in these topics you're at the top of the iceberg as corny as that may sound. You're right you don't have to be a genius to understand that cells proliferation means more cells = more growth but this is the same shit as knowing that chondrocytes are cartilage cells, this is the bare minimum you need to know and there is thousands of compounds that do this.

I only share maybe half of the story most of the time and wont even counter-argument in debates just to not share that info. I do not give a fuck about anyone like you on the forum trust me, you know 5% of what i know maybe, fun fact did you know your growth plates have a circadian rhythm? This is one of the hundreds of shit you have no idea about and i will share some in my next rhGH thread so jits like you can learn.

"tren 50mg isnt useless i guess i agree, but once again im talking realistic nobody has the balls to run tren and it overcomplicates the cycle." Nobody has the balls as they compare the sides of running 500mg to 50mg weekly and get their info from GPT just like you do and it does not overcomplicate anything.

nigga YOUR BODY HAS A CIRCADIAN RYTHM ITS ALL CONNECTED NO SHIT

there are NOT a thousand compounds that make ur cartilage cells proliferate AND are not risky to take. there are a ton that are dogshit compounds that could MAYBE make u grow but they promote differentiation of cartillage cells which is bad.

aqualyx uc, strong binding androgens, an ai for all of puberty and during cycle, masseter muscle trainers, neck curls, something to proliferate growth plate chrondrocytes and slow down the differentiation such as hgh or vosoritide or tyra300. fgfr3 inhibitors are shit other than tyra-300 by far the best heightmaxx drug but too expensive. obv supplements such as multivitamins melatonin vit d, magnesium zinc creatine if needed etc. i could list more complex supplements but they r cope.

this is literally all you need anything else yk is dogshit useless and will never be implented due to sourcing or bec ppl r too pussy.

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

the studies are not magical unicorns in ur room they r real

Do you just miss the point on purpose? I even spelled it out for you.

 

[AtrophicPyra]

Do you just miss the point on purpose? I even spelled it out for you.

i get the point do you get the point? studies on rats are real and can be implemented

 

[Zagro]

why wouldnt it help mandible project in humans? who knows maybe it willl need to read more abt that compound

"six-week-old male Japanese white rabbits "
"fed with or without myo-inositol supplementation in laboratory chow until 25 weeks old"
"myo-inositol group was fed a diet supplemented with myo-inositol (myo-inositol content: 66 g/kg; Fujifilm Wako chemicals, Osaka, Japan)."

Have fun consuming 10kg of myo-inositol for 4/5th of your lifespan for a few milimeters of thickening. GPT will never look in-depth like this for you, it'll only answer your questions such as "will myo-inositol grow my mandible" and the answer will be yeah obviously but disregarding the fact that it's unrealistic.

nigga YOUR BODY HAS A CIRCADIAN RYTHM ITS ALL CONNECTED NO SHIT

Your growth plates have a different circadian rhythm not linked to your bodies circadian rhythm that's why I'm telling you this you complete retard, you cant even fathom the fact that it's possible

there are NOT a thousand compounds that make ur cartilage cells proliferate AND are not risky to take. there are a ton that are dogshit compounds that could MAYBE make u grow but they promote differentiation of cartillage cells which is bad.

Yeah you're right, there are tens of thousands of compounds that make ur cartilage cells proliferate. I can pull up like 100-200 random chinese herbs that do this let alone meds or research compounds anything that has the capacity to proliferate cells holds some risk even if it isn't significant or realistic the idea is mechanistically sound

Name me one that solely promotes proliferation and I'll show you evidence that it also promotes differentiation, you need differentiation to grow by the way, what are you going to proliferate the extracellular fluid?

aqualyx uc, strong binding androgens, an ai for all of puberty and during cycle, masseter muscle trainers, neck curls, something to proliferate growth plate chrondrocytes and slow down the differentiation such as hgh or vosoritide or tyra300. fgfr3 inhibitors are shit other than tyra-300 by far the best heightmaxx drug but too expensive. obv supplements such as multivitamins melatonin vit d, magnesium zinc creatine if needed etc. i could list more complex supplements but they r cope.

this is literally all you need anything else yk is dogshit useless and will never be implented due to sourcing or bec ppl r too pussy.

Neck curls for bones bro

Slow down differentiation and rhGH in the same sentence mirin iq

You in particular wont be able to source nor afford tyra-300 nor will any non-richcel on the forum that hasn't been spoonfed with sources.

Multivitamins don't work they're 20-fold underdosed you need the whole bottle for RDA, which is again low as the RDA is very considerate meaning you can go 10-fold above the RDA and sometimes have to.

You wanna hear something crazy? Melatonin inhibits chondrocyte proliferation

Mirin knowledge bro very high iq, you cracked the code and learned everything in two weeks wow

 

[introvertedextrover]

ts guy still on this forum?

comparing rats to humans, this is high iq thread im bookmarking incase i ever want to blast my rabbit with tren you have already ai the studies and sources for me. thanks OP

 

[AtrophicPyra]

"six-week-old male Japanese white rabbits "
"fed with or without myo-inositol supplementation in laboratory chow until 25 weeks old"
"myo-inositol group was fed a diet supplemented with myo-inositol (myo-inositol content: 66 g/kg; Fujifilm Wako chemicals, Osaka, Japan)."

Have fun consuming 10kg of myo-inositol for 4/5th of your lifespan for a few milimeters of thickening. GPT will never look in-depth like this for you, it'll only answer your questions such as "will myo-inositol grow my mandible" and the answer will be yeah obviously but disregarding the fact that it's unrealistic.


Your growth plates have a different circadian rhythm not linked to your bodies circadian rhythm that's why I'm telling you this you complete retard, you cant even fathom the fact that it's possible


Yeah you're right, there are tens of thousands of compounds that make ur cartilage cells proliferate. I can pull up like 100-200 random chinese herbs that do this let alone meds or research compounds anything that has the capacity to proliferate cells holds some risk even if it isn't significant or realistic the idea is mechanistically sound

Name me one that solely promotes proliferation and I'll show you evidence that it also promotes differentiation, you need differentiation to grow by the way, what are you going to proliferate the extracellular fluid?



Neck curls for bones bro

Slow down differentiation and rhGH in the same sentence mirin iq

You in particular wont be able to source nor afford tyra-300 nor will any non-richcel on the forum that hasn't been spoonfed with sources.

Multivitamins don't work they're 20-fold underdosed you need the whole bottle for RDA, which is again low as the RDA is very considerate meaning you can go 10-fold above the RDA and sometimes have to.

You wanna hear something crazy? Melatonin inhibits chondrocyte proliferation

Mirin knowledge bro very high iq, you cracked the code and learned everything in two weeks wow

neck curls work they dont give give u bones its more or so an illusion
hgh promotes differentiation not as much as proliferation so it outweighs
multivitamins work wtf r u on abt
melatonin insignificantly inhibits chrondrocyte proliferation at 1mg as stated
the protocol i stated is literally all u need i guarentee you chinese herbs are not going to turn u into chad

tyra300 promotes mainly proliferation look it up

circadian rythym of ur growth plates is SO UNIMPORTANT TO know its useless as shit to know as i have said before.

 

[AtrophicPyra]

ts guy still on this forum?

comparing rats to humans, this is high iq thread im bookmarking incase i ever want to blast my rabbit with tren you have already ai the studies and sources for me. thanks OP

prove me wrong on why testing bone effecting compounds on rats is different than on humans take ur time

 

[Zagro]

neck curls work they dont give give u bones its more or so an illusion
hgh promotes differentiation not as much as proliferation so it outweighs
multivitamins work wtf r u on abt
melatonin insignificantly inhibits chrondrocyte proliferation at 1mg as stated
the protocol i stated is literally all u need i guarentee you chinese herbs are not going to turn u into chad

tyra300 promotes mainly proliferation look it up

circadian rythym of ur growth plates is SO UNIMPORTANT TO know its useless as shit to know as i have said before.

rhGH promotes more differentiation retard thus the risk for you reaching an senescence like state, but you also don't know that free igf-1 is more important than all this shit and that pulsatile secretion mogs for free igf-1 to an extent

Multivitamins don't work you fucking retard

Yes bro not even 1mg of vitamins work you're right.

You should also know that your 1mg melatonin wont even be noticeable retard, and i was testing you out if you knew about it just to fuck your asshole and debunk you once again.

I never said chinese herbs work you fucking illiterate bitch it was sarcasm to mimic you and to prove my point that there are indeed thousands of things that help proliferation.

Once again I didn't say tyra-300 doesn't promote proliferation, its just that your retarded ass wont be able to source nor afford it, you're making things up just to sound correct for once that ain't happening son

Circadian rhythm in the plates is literally how your growth happens and is regulated you fucking retard You don't even know what it is why are you larping

Keep going and you'll end up on my ignore list and get a whole thread made just to debunk your points just like what happened to Ahmed

 

[Zagro]

prove me wrong on why testing bone effecting compounds on rats is different than on humans take ur time

"Yes because again we dont have identical receptors, senescence systems etc, there are relevant differences in growth, in fact there has to be in order for them to grow faster

There is so many downstream effects in biology as everything is connected as one system that you can sit and theoretically circlebjerk around whatever flr any purpose and reason for it, but can it give signifant results is a different question, and not even the best scientists are able to make quantitative analisyses from only theory, this is why you need empirical evidence to prove or disprove it. And thats why you can never nor will ever be able to get a compound recognized as functioning by any lehit scientific institution without empirical evidence"

"Rats aren't 1:1 human and not comparable in 95% of trials they really rape those rats and injected everything locally or infuse I.V 24/7 to monitor effects, also if you actually read the studies you may provide most of them are done when rats are newborns so anything for bone growth that works on rats doesn't on humans atleast not how you think it does.

Their peptideases/oligopeptideases are different from what I've heard so most of the shit studies you may provide don't mean anything"

""six-week-old male Japanese white rabbits "
"fed with or without myo-inositol supplementation in laboratory chow until 25 weeks old"
"myo-inositol group was fed a diet supplemented with myo-inositol (myo-inositol content: 66 g/kg; Fujifilm Wako chemicals, Osaka, Japan)."

Have fun consuming 10kg of myo-inositol for 4/5th of your lifespan for a few milimeters of thickening. GPT will never look in-depth like this for you, it'll only answer your questions such as "will myo-inositol grow my mandible" and the answer will be yeah obviously but disregarding the fact that it's unrealistic."

When people take the time to teach retards like you something you should actually read it for once, dyslexic nigga

 

[AtrophicPyra]

rhGH promotes more differentiation retard thus the risk for you reaching an senescence like state, but you also don't know that free igf-1 is more important than all this shit and that pulsatile secretion mogs for free igf-1 to an extent

Multivitamins don't work you fucking retard
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Yes bro not even 1mg of vitamins work you're right.

You should also know that your 1mg melatonin wont even be noticeable retard, and i was testing you out if you knew about it just to fuck your asshole and debunk you once again.

I never said chinese herbs work you fucking illiterate bitch it was sarcasm to mimic you and to prove my point that there are indeed thousands of things that help proliferation.

Once again I didn't say tyra-300 doesn't promote proliferation, its just that your retarded ass wont be able to source nor afford it, you're making things up just to sound correct for once that ain't happening son

Circadian rhythm in the plates is literally how your growth happens and is regulated you fucking retard You don't even know what it is why are you larping

Keep going and you'll end up on my ignore list and get a whole thread made just to debunk your points just like what happened to Ahmed

thats what i said 1mg of melatonin insignficantly lowers chrondrocyte prolfieration

circadian rythym in ur growth plates is so fucking unimportant if ur taking hgh once again overcomplicating stuff.

there are thousands of things that help proliferation by 0.00001% sucking dick prob helps proliferation if u wanna go that far

also wtf is that image of that multivitamin what language is that

hgh does NOT promote more differentiation than proliferation complete bs, hgh boosts free igf1 what r u rambling abt


look at my post;rep does it look like i give a shit