Roid question

[Deleted member 7753]

Say I'm doing a steroid cycle of test, get all my gains and surpass my genetic potential. After the cycle, how much muscle mass am I expected to lose? Will I be far off my genetic potential?

I've been reading online forums and most say that after the cycle you'll be close your genetic potential. If thats true someone could just hop on a cycle, reach their genetic potential and then just maintain. Just sounds too good to be true.

 

[Deleted member 5393]

You will lose a lot of the gains

and some of the gains are just an illusion from the water + glycogen retention filling the muscles

 

[Deleted member 7753]

You will lose a lot of the gains

and some of the gains are just an illusion from the water + glycogen retention filling the muscles

Yeah but even if it puts someone 5-10kg of muscle mass short of their genetic potential, it still is something worth doing, unless youre very sensitive to balding. I obviously don't know shit about roids so I'm kind of talking out of my ass lol

 

[Bewusst]

The mentality of you retards... don’t wanna put in the work, driven by only your ego and illusions. Then whine and complain that life is so unfair when you fail. It’s pathetic

 

[uglygypsy]

Unless you've been training perfectly for 6+ years without roids, a single cycle isn't gonna propel you above your genetic limit.

In general if you're worried about losing gains, you can always "blast and cruise" eg. Essentially self adminstering TRT (testosterone replacement therapy) so that after a cycle you don't go hypo, feel like shit, gain fat and lose muscle.

Even with roids if you don't train you're not gonna see shit for a difference. If you don't want to train hard and progress then drop the roids and eat a balanced diet and casually exercise whenever, that way you won't be risking going bald for nothing.

also train neck its literally most important muscle ever

 

[Deleted member 7753]

The mentality of you retards... don’t wanna put in the work, driven by only your ego and illusions. Then whine and complain that life is so unfair when you fail. It’s pathetic

just train for 10+ years to reach your genetic potential when instead you can do a couple of cycles to get there within a year theory. Also shit post, kys. I've haven't said even once my life is unfair fag. You're talking out of your ass.

 

[Deleted member 7753]

Unless you've been training perfectly for 6+ years without roids, a single cycle isn't gonna propel you above your genetic limit.

In general if you're worried about losing gains, you can always "blast and cruise" eg. Essentially self adminstering TRT (testosterone replacement therapy) so that after a cycle you don't go hypo, feel like shit, gain fat and lose muscle.

Even with roids if you don't train you're not gonna see shit for a difference. If you don't want to train hard and progress then drop the roids and eat a balanced diet and casually exercise whenever, that way you won't be risking going bald for nothing.

also train neck its literally most important muscle ever

Nah, I'm not interested in blasting and cruising. I've already been training for 4 months, if I could do a couple of cycles to surpass my genetic potential and after doing my last cycle I would be closer to it than going natty, I would.

 

[Bewusst]

just train for 10+ years to reach your genetic potential when instead you can do a couple of cycles to get there within a year theory. Also shit post, kys. I've haven't said even once my life is unfair fag. You're talking out of your ass.

Why do you want to “reach your genetic potential” asap? If you don’t enjoy the process of lifting itself, why bother at all? What are you doing it for?

 

[Deleted member 7753]

Why do you want to “reach your genetic potential” asap? If you don’t enjoy the process of lifting itself, why bother at all? What are you doing it for?

To get laid, is that a serious question? I would be very happy laying on my ass all day if I knew I would have a rotation of women to fuck regularly.

 

[Bewusst]

To get laid, is that a serious question? I would be very happy laying on my ass all day if I knew I would have a rotation of women to fuck regularly.

Just what I thought. Remember my words when you type your first venting thread

 

[Deleted member 7753]

Just what I thought. Remember my words when you type your first venting thread

I'll make sure you're the first person I tag.

 

[Deleted member 10172]

Say I'm doing a steroid cycle of test, get all my gains and surpass my genetic potential. After the cycle, how much muscle mass am I expected to lose? Will I be far off my genetic potential?

I've been reading online forums and most say that after the cycle you'll be close your genetic potential. If thats true someone could just hop on a cycle, reach their genetic potential and then just maintain. Just sounds too good to be true.

good luck doing TRT for the rest of your life

 

[MentalistKebab]

just train for 10+ years to reach your genetic potential

This is BS. If you are eating right, dont have aby defincies, training correctly you are reaching to your 95% potential in 2 years max.

If that doesnt satisfy you roid, cuz reaching your limit at 10 years is a meme

 

[MentalistKebab]

Say I'm doing a steroid cycle of test, get all my gains and surpass my genetic potential. After the cycle, how much muscle mass am I expected to lose? Will I be far off my genetic potential?

I've been reading online forums and most say that after the cycle you'll be close your genetic potential. If thats true someone could just hop on a cycle, reach their genetic potential and then just maintain. Just sounds too good to be true.

Anyhow main problem with that you will absolutely gonna lose most of gains at PCT, and its nit clear whether you can control it with huge gains or fail and forced to TRT

 

[Deleted member 7753]

Anyhow main problem with that you will absolutely gonna lose most of gains at PCT, and its nit clear whether you can control it with huge gains or fail and forced to TRT

You would still recover most of your natural t production within the first months with a proper PCT. Even if it takes longer, the muscle memory from the steroid use should help regain most of the gains in a couple of months after t production is back to normal. Isn't this how it works since you'll have more muscle nuclei and muscle memory will you make gains quicker than going natty?

 

[Carbon Copy]

You would still recover most of your natural t production within the first months with a proper PCT. Even if it takes longer, the muscle memory from the steroid use should help regain most of the gains in a couple of months after t production is back to normal. Isn't this how it works since you'll have more muscle nuclei and muscle memory will you make gains quicker than going natty?

I don't have personal experience with roids but I have read that you will keep around 80% of the gains you made on your first test only cycle. The only problem I see is that if you are a total newbie you don't know how to train and eat, and even if you have the theory right you probably will lack the dicipline. I am at 105 kg with 20 - 25% bodyfat right now after 3 years of training. Now I am dieting and after that I will start my first cycle and will report.

 

[Deleted member 7753]

I don't have personal experience with roids but I have read that you will keep around 80% of the gains you made on your first test only cycle. The only problem I see is that if you are a total newbie you don't know how to train and eat, and even if you have the theory right you probably will lack the dicipline. I am at 105 kg with 20 - 25% bodyfat right now after 3 years of training. Now I am dieting and after that I will start my first cycle and will report.

I had been training in the past but life got in the way, it's not like I just started 4 months ago. I probably have around a year and a half to 2 years of cumulative gym training experience. But I'd appreciate it if you could tag me in your thread or pm me if you aren't going to make one.

 

[Deusmaximus]

Unless you've been training perfectly for 6+ years without roids, a single cycle isn't gonna propel you above your genetic limit.

In general if you're worried about losing gains, you can always "blast and cruise" eg. Essentially self adminstering TRT (testosterone replacement therapy) so that after a cycle you don't go hypo, feel like shit, gain fat and lose muscle.

Even with roids if you don't train you're not gonna see shit for a difference. If you don't want to train hard and progress then drop the roids and eat a balanced diet and casually exercise whenever, that way you won't be risking going bald for nothing.

also train neck its literally most important muscle ever

There was a study where the roid group has built more muscle without training compared to the natty gymcel group.

 

[Deleted member 9090]

Say I'm doing a steroid cycle of test, get all my gains and surpass my genetic potential. After the cycle, how much muscle mass am I expected to lose? Will I be far off my genetic potential?

I've been reading online forums and most say that after the cycle you'll be close your genetic potential. If thats true someone could just hop on a cycle, reach their genetic potential and then just maintain. Just sounds too good to be true.

yeah this is possible with correct pct and good ass diet and training. its really hard to do so though, as u will feel like utter shit during the transition. also no guarantee u will have the same test levels naturally after, but a good chance you do if you dont fuck up. only thing that cant happen is surpass your genetic limit. basically u do 1 or 2 cycles and try to maintain that physique till you die

 

[Deleted member 7753]

yeah this is possible with correct pct and good ass diet and training. its really hard to do so though, as u will feel like utter shit during the transition. also no guarantee u will have the same test levels naturally after, but a good chance you do if you dont fuck up. only thing that cant happen is surpass your genetic limit. basically u do 1 or 2 cycles and try to maintain that physique till you die

Have you done any cycles?

 

[Deleted member 9090]

Have you done any cycles?

no im just researching this shit for the future. you have to know wtf u are putting into your body. keep in mind if it goes bad it goes bad, you can fuck up your aging, collagen, hair etc etcet c

 

[Deleted member 7753]

no im just researching this shit for the future. you have to know wtf u are putting into your body. keep in mind if it goes bad it goes bad, you can fuck up your aging, collagen, hair etc etcet c

Yeah, which is why I'm kind of reluctant still but fuck is it temping.