Roids Aren't Worth It

[Lonely]

If you train right and consistently with good methodology for 5 years you can walk into any room anywhere on the planet and mog every guy there. You will be known as the Jacked guy. I've just been lifting for 10 months and have doing it like trash but I've been consistent, worked hard, eaten a lot and now I physiquemog everyone in my high school. Not even roidmaxxxers will mog you if you gymcel natty for a few hears because most of them can't train right, eat right, recover right+ roids fuck up your aesthetics if you use them poorly (which most roidmaxxxxxers do). My humble opinion. People underestimate what can be achieved naturally because they suck at training, eating and sleeping.

 

[eduardkoopman]

If you train right and consistently with good methodology for 5 years you can walk into any room anywhere on the planet and mog every guy there. You will be known as the Jacked guy. I've just been lifting for 10 months and have doing it like trash but I've been consistent, worked hard, eaten a lot and now I physiquemog everyone in my high school. Not even roidmaxxxers will mog you if you gymcel natty for a few hears because most of them can't train right, eat right, recover right+ roids fuck up your aesthetics if you use them poorly (which most roidmaxxxxxers do). My humble opinion. People underestimate what can be achieved naturally because they suck at training, eating and sleeping.

bodyfat percentage?

 

[Lonely]

bodyfat percentage?

Mine?

 

[eduardkoopman]

Mine?

yeah.

 

[Lonely]

yeah.

Late teens/ early twenties

 

[eduardkoopman]

Late teens/ early twenties

lol. at describibing bodyfat perceatge that way.

so you are 20% bodyfat percentage orso?

 

[Lonely]

lol. at describibing bodyfat perceatge that way.

so you are 20% bodyfat percentage orso?

Probably a bit less but yeah

 

[eduardkoopman]

Probably a bit less but yeah

to fat, imo.
15% is even to much, imo.
12% is where it's good

 

[Lonely]

to fat, imo.
15% is even to much, imo.
12% is where it's good

What benefit will leaning down bring?

 

[eduardkoopman]

What benefit will leaning down bring?

face,
abbs.

Reminder - if you've never been lean, you don't know wtf you look like and you can't claim to be deformed or recessed or any other BS (my pics inside)

A few things before we begin: 1) I'm not asking for ratings here, not the point of the thread. 2) I don't care if you mog me or I mog you. Again, not the point, broseph. 3) The point is to show, with pictures, that if you're a fatcel, skinnyfatcel, or simply have never been to low bodyfat...

looksmax.org

 

[Lonely]

face,
abbs.

Reminder - if you've never been lean, you don't know wtf you look like and you can't claim to be deformed or recessed or any other BS (my pics inside)

A few things before we begin: 1) I'm not asking for ratings here, not the point of the thread. 2) I don't care if you mog me or I mog you. Again, not the point, broseph. 3) The point is to show, with pictures, that if you're a fatcel, skinnyfatcel, or simply have never been to low bodyfat...

looksmax.org

I don't care about either of those as much as I do about muscle and size

 

[Deleted member 3672]

I don't care about either of those as much as I do about muscle and size

Cope.

Imagine having both size + leanness, keep on training boyo.

 

[Lonely]

Cope.

Imagine having both size + leanness, keep on training boyo.

Yes, that's the plan. But I need to build size first.

 

[eduardkoopman]

Cope.

Imagine having both size + leanness, keep on training boyo.

yeah. true.
just walk around with a fat bloated face, theory.

face > Bodyshape

 

[Lonely]

yeah. true.
just walk around with a fat bloated face, theory.

face > Bodyshape

Maybe for attraction

 

[eduardkoopman]

Yes, that's the plan. But I need to build size first.

 

[Polar]

"yeah we natty gymcellers mog so fucking hard bro"
kys

 

[Lonely]

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xD I will cut but once I build a lot of mass

 

[Lonely]

"yeah we natty gymcellers mog so fucking hard bro"
kys

Just Cherrypick Theory

 

[eduardkoopman]

xD I will cut but once I build a lot of mass

muscle mass only counts!
Builded fat and water mass, doesn't mean nothing. Because it all goes away, when going below 15% bodyfat

 

[Polar]

Just Cherrypick Theory

yeah im sure this guy is just an exception to the rule if ur prone to balding because of roids (aka have a subhuman base) dont make shitty posts on how nobody else should use them

 

[eduardkoopman]

"yeah we natty gymcellers mog so fucking hard bro"
kys

Dude looks shit mostly because he is a FATTY, and doesn't know cardio exists. 20%-25% bodyfat range.
low bodyfat percentage, is the basic, for body aesthetics.

if ur prone to balding because of roids (aka have a subhuman base) dont make shitty posts on how nobody else should use them

LOL.
A roid user mocking a person for subhuman bas, while roid users can't build muscle mass naturally well, because genetically caped at lower muscle mass levels. Talking about a subhuman base.

 

[Lonely]

yeah im sure this guy is just an exception to the rule if ur prone to balding because of roids (aka have a subhuman base) dont make shitty posts on how nobody else should use them

if you unironically think that thats peak natty you're a dumbass. there are tons of natural lifters who look amazing.

 

[Lonely]

muscle mass only counts!
Builded fat and water mass, doesn't mean nothing. Because it all goes away, when going below 15% bodyfat

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mate, if i lean down right now i wont look as impressive in clothes. lemme build up a solid base of muscle first, and THEN ill go to 12% body fat so i can look like i lift in a shirt. why is this important? male gaze, and also foids love a guy thats muscular (and not a twink). maybe if i was a prettyboy fag i could rock a skinny physique but i dont have the facilities for that big man.

 

[Lonely]

Dude looks shit mostly because he is a FATTY, and doesn't know cardio exists. 20%-25% bodyfat range.
low bodyfat percentage, is the basic, for body aesthetics.

LOL.
A roid user mocking a person for subhuman bas, while roid users can't build muscle mass naturally well, because genetically caped at lower muscle mass levels. Talking about a subhuman base.

also the guy is literally trains for strength. he just does big compound movements for low reps with minimal bodybuilding training. if he focused on hypertrophy training and leaned he'd mog super hard.

he's also 17 ish so yeah.

 

[Polar]

Dude looks shit mostly because he is a FATTY, and doesn't know cardio exists. 20%-25% bodyfat range.
low bodyfat percentage, is the basic, for body aesthetics.

no shit
point is you cant be big while also being lean

LOL.
A roid user mocking a person for subhuman bas, while roid users can't build muscle mass naturally well, because genetically caped at lower muscle mass levels. Talking about a subhuman base.

any looksmaxxing you do is a subhuman trait right bro if youre frauding something its over jfl

if you unironically think that thats peak natty you're a dumbass. there are tons of natural lifters who look amazing.

just have top tier bodybuilding genetics bro

 

[Eren]

Probably a bit less but yeah

i'm a kid then

 

[Africancel]

If you train right and consistently with good methodology for 5 years you can walk into any room anywhere on the planet and mog every guy there. You will be known as the Jacked guy. I've just been lifting for 10 months and have doing it like trash but I've been consistent, worked hard, eaten a lot and now I physiquemog everyone in my high school. Not even roidmaxxxers will mog you if you gymcel natty for a few hears because most of them can't train right, eat right, recover right+ roids fuck up your aesthetics if you use them poorly (which most roidmaxxxxxers do). My humble opinion. People underestimate what can be achieved naturally because they suck at training, eating and sleeping.

Absolutely true tho. I’m 14%bf rn and I went from sub5 skinny fat mfs to mogging 90% of guys in my school and the difference in treatment is staggering. I haven’t even trained for a year straight and it was very inconsistent due to schoolwork and not having a gym membership(I only trained with calisthenics) and people will absolutely notice.

 

[Africancel]

Cope.

Imagine having both size + leanness, keep on training boyo.

Yeah that’s my goal. I don’t want to sacrifice leanness for size so I’ll probably hop on test when I moneymaxx

 

[Africancel]

"yeah we natty gymcellers mog so fucking hard bro"
kys

Bro I mog the living shit out of this guy and I haven’t trained consistently for a year. And I’m probably taller than him(6’3) soo whaaat?? How tf does he train??

 

[Lonely]

Bro I mog the living shit out of this guy and I haven’t trained consistently for a year. And I’m probably taller than him(6’3) soo whaaat?? How tf does he train??

For strength

 

[Africancel]

For strength

Fuck training for strength if you ain’t gonna be a legit powerlifting competitor, and you’ll need steroids for that too. Strength is just a happy byproduct of training regularly, not something you should actively seek if you don’t want to destroy your joints.
Training should be purely for aesthetics and health, anything else is just a fortunate byproduct

 

[Lonely]

Fuck training for strength if you ain’t gonna be a legit powerlifting competitor, and you’ll need steroids for that too. Strength is just a happy byproduct of training regularly, not something you should actively seek if you don’t want to destroy your joints.
Training should be purely for aesthetics and health, anything else is just a fortunate byproduct

You can be a natural strength athlete too. Strength and size is interchangeable until the advanced stage anyways. But he specialises in strength and doesn't care about aesthetics.

 

[Africancel]

You can be a natural strength athlete too. Strength and size is interchangeable until the advanced stage anyways. But he specialises in strength and doesn't care about aesthetics.

That’s just idiotic to do but it’s his life anyway. I care waay more about slaying than bragging about my 405 lift

 

[Lonely]

That’s just idiotic to do but it’s his life anyway. I care waay more about slaying than bragging about my 405 lift

Well yes but keep in mind that training for strength is a good way to become bigger. No one who benches 225, 315 or 405 will be small. He just took it too far.

 

[Deleted member 22126]

Keep coping while i roid at 17 to get a mogger frame and jaw

 

[Africancel]

Keep coping while i roid at 17 to get a mogger frame and jaw

Get an AI if you don’t wanna stunt your growth you dumbass

 

[Lonely]

Keep coping while i roid at 17 to get a mogger frame and jaw

Ok best of luck

 

[Africancel]

Well yes but keep in mind that training for strength is a good way to become bigger. No one who benches 225, 315 or 405 will be small. He just took it too far.

Some people do. Strength and size are not that correlated. Getting bigger means more strength capacity nothing more.

 

[Lonely]

Some people do. Strength and size are not that correlated. Getting bigger means more strength capacity nothing more.

Getting stronger means your muscles got bigger (with exceptions)

 

[Africancel]

Getting stronger means your muscles got bigger (with exceptions)

Getting stronger means you are better at using your muscles. Go learn again.
Strength is purely neurological.

 

[Lonely]

Getting stronger means you are better at using your muscles. Go learn again.
Strength is purely neurological.

It's both neurology and muscle, but a stronger muscle is a bigger muscle and vice versa. Strength being purely neurological is impossible. All elite strength elites are massive, discounting a handful who have excellent neurological adaptation and leverages, but those tend to always be in the smallest weight classes.

 

[Africancel]

It's both neurology and muscle, but a stronger muscle is a bigger muscle and vice versa. Strength being purely neurological is impossible. All elite strength elites are massive, discounting a handful who have excellent neurological adaptation and leverages, but those tend to always be in the smallest weight classes.

Because mass increases your strength capacity. You can be hella strong while skinny but your strength is capped. You need to get bigger to increase that capacity. A bigger muscle is a stronger muscle but the inverse is absolutely not true. If it was, no one smaller than me would ever be stronger than me but it just doesn’t work like that.

 

[Lonely]

Because mass increases your strength capacity. You can be hella strong while skinny but your strength is capped. You need to get bigger to increase that capacity. A bigger muscle is a stronger muscle but the inverse is absolutely not true. If it was, no one smaller than me would ever be stronger than me but it just doesn’t work like that.

A stronger muscle is a bigger muscle most of the time because to move more weight you need to have bigger muscles. Hence for all practical purposes increasing your strength could boost your muscle size.

 

[Africancel]

A stronger muscle is a bigger muscle most of the time because to move more weight you need to have bigger muscles. Hence for all practical purposes increasing your strength could boost your muscle size.

Bruh I’m bigger than guys stronger than me. What the heck do want else. If what you are saying is true, that should be impossible.

 

[Lonely]

Bruh I’m bigger than guys stronger than me. What the heck do want else. If what you are saying is true, that should be impossible.

Because there's other factors at play too.

 

[ChristianChad]

mate, if i lean down right now i wont look as impressive in clothes. lemme build up a solid base of muscle first, and THEN ill go to 12% body fat so i can look like i lift in a shirt. why is this important? male gaze, and also foids love a guy thats muscular (and not a twink). maybe if i was a prettyboy fag i could rock a skinny physique but i dont have the facilities for that big man.

PM me your physique. My bet is you have gyno bitch tits and stomach rolls + love handles

 

[Lonely]

PM me your physique. My bet is you have gyno bitch tits and stomach rolls + love handles

Not even close

 

[Deleted member 22627]

If you train right and consistently with good methodology for 5 years you can walk into any room anywhere on the planet and mog every guy there. You will be known as the Jacked guy. I've just been lifting for 10 months and have doing it like trash but I've been consistent, worked hard, eaten a lot and now I physiquemog everyone in my high school. Not even roidmaxxxers will mog you if you gymcel natty for a few hears because most of them can't train right, eat right, recover right+ roids fuck up your aesthetics if you use them poorly (which most roidmaxxxxxers do). My humble opinion. People underestimate what can be achieved naturally because they suck at training, eating and sleeping.

See you over at r/steroids when your newbie gains dry out.

 

[eduardkoopman]

See you over at r/steroids when your newbie gains dry out.