RU58841 - my experience so far

[Sir Galachad]

After I stopped applying Finasteride because it would give me sexual sides (both oral and topical, 0.625mg daily) I tried RU58841. It's supposed to bind to androgen receptors instead of inhibiting DHT production. However, I got a very different set of sides which is why I will stop application as well. After 3 months of 0,5 to 1ml of a 5% solution I.....

....started growing hair again, just like on Fin. Finasteride worked better for me though. RU Binding affinity to receptors is stronger than tesosterone, but not as strong as DHT, so that would explain that.

...got a dry cough, starting 3 weeks ago. It is today so severe that I will stop application for 2 weeks and see if it changes.

...feel a slight pain in my upper body, probably lungs. Pain started 3 days ago. Google "Nilutamide lung side effects", I think that's what's happening here.

...uncontrolled muscle twitches throughout my whole body

The premixed solution was stored at room temperature. I never shook it, so as I am approaching the bottom, the RU is probably very dense in my leftover solution. I will order again, store in the fridge, shake before every application, use a glove and see if that changes things.

 

[5.5psl]

After I stopped applying Finasteride because it would give me sexual sides (both oral and topical, 0.625mg daily) I tried RU58841. It's supposed to bind to androgen receptors instead of inhibiting DHT production. However, I got a very different set of sides which is why I will stop application as well. After 3 months of 0,5 to 1ml of a 5% solution I.....

....started growing hair again, just like on Fin. Finasteride worked better for me though. RU Binding affinity to receptors is stronger than tesosterone, but not as strong as DHT, so that would explain that.

...got a dry cough, starting 3 weeks ago. It is today so severe that I will stop application for 2 weeks and see if it changes.

...feel a slight pain in my upper body, probably lungs. Pain started 3 days ago. Google "Nilutamide lung side effects", I think that's what happening here.

...uncontrolled muscle twitches throughout my whole body

The premixed solution was stored at room temperature. I never shook it, so as I am approaching the bottom, the RU is probably very dense in my leftover solution. I will order again, store in the fridge, shake before every application, use a glove and see if that changes things.

Is it legit to use in steroid cycle to "avoid" hair loss ???

 

[Sir Galachad]

Is it legit to use in steroid cycle to "avoid" hair loss ???

Never tried it and never going to, but seems logical. RU binds to receptors in the follicle. As long as you're not experiencing systemic sides it should be fine. Would not take Finasteride if you're concerned with muslce mass though, as DHT is needed for optimal gains.

 

[GalacticHero]

started growing hair again

What parts of the hair did you grow?

 

[5.5psl]

Never tried it and never going to, but seems logical. RU binds to receptors in the follicle. As long as you're not experiencing systemic sides it should be fine. Would not take Finasteride if you're concerned with muslce mass though, as DHT is needed for optimal gains.

Yes exactly that's the reason I haven't started to take fin despite me being on cycle as dht is very important for growth
I am thinking to go for ru as it only blocks androgens at follicle and prevents hair loss and I would only use it during my cycle
Btw I think it has no effect if we use any other steroid than test like tren or mast ??
@callisto thoughts ??

 

[Sir Galachad]

What parts of the hair did you grow?

What do you mean? What I was trying to say is basically: vellus hair turned into terminal hair again. Same thing fin did for me.

 

[lepo2317]

There are bad news. Pyrilutamide which is 'hope' for people like us who can't take fin, gives same sides as fucking fin. Over for us baldingcels.

 

[Sir Galachad]

There are bad news. Pyrilutamide which is 'hope' for people like us who can't take fin, gives same sides as fucking fin. Over for us baldingcels.

Yeah, I don't know what to fucking do at this point. Can you give me the details?

 

[callisto]

dht is vital for feeling good and having a good, attractive aura. the only time i would use a dht blocker is if it was studied for 10+ years, no unacceptable side effects like probability of permantent libido loss or dangerous heart issues with ru, if it was topical and didnt go systemic at all.
I dont like fin, I dont like RU.
Anything that has the possibility make me not be able to fuck is instant no for me. i have decent hair genetics and will only use hair mild compounds until there are realistic and robust(meaning indistinguishable from real hair in grip, feel, halt and usability like being able to swim or shower with it) enough hair systems. when these will be available I will get one instantly and blast the shit out of mast, proviron and halo.

 

[callisto]

Yes exactly that's the reason I haven't started to take fin despite me being on cycle as dht is very important for growth
I am thinking to go for ru as it only blocks androgens at follicle and prevents hair loss and I would only use it during my cycle
Btw I think it has no effect if we use any other steroid than test like tren or mast ??
@callisto thoughts ??

dht is vital for feeling good and having a good, attractive aura. the only time i would use a dht blocker is if it was studied for 10+ years, no unacceptable side effects like probability of permantent libido loss or dangerous heart issues with ru, if it was topical and didnt go systemic at all.
I dont like fin, I dont like RU.
Anything that has the possibility make me not be able to fuck is instant no for me. i have decent hair genetics and will only use hair mild compounds until there are realistic and robust(meaning indistinguishable from real hair in grip, feel, halt and usability like being able to swim or shower with it) enough hair systems. when these will be available I will get one instantly and blast the shit out of mast, proviron and halo.

forgot to tap reply thats why double post

 

[Sir Galachad]

dht is vital for feeling good and having a good, attractive aura

what do you mean by "aura"?

 

[5.5psl]

dht is vital for feeling good and having a good, attractive aura. the only time i would use a dht blocker is if it was studied for 10+ years, no unacceptable side effects like probability of permantent libido loss or dangerous heart issues with ru, if it was topical and didnt go systemic at all.
I dont like fin, I dont like RU.
Anything that has the possibility make me not be able to fuck is instant no for me. i have decent hair genetics and will only use hair mild compounds until there are realistic and robust(meaning indistinguishable from real hair in grip, feel, halt and usability like being able to swim or shower with it) enough hair systems. when these will be available I will get one instantly and blast the shit out of mast, proviron and halo.

forgot to tap reply thats why double post

That's exacty what I want to do bro
When some solid hair system comes out I will literally run 1 gram of tren and not give a single fuck about my heart health only thing stopping me is hair

 

[lepo2317]

Yeah, I don't know what to fucking do at this point. Can you give me the details?

Pyri was (and is?) huge hope for those who can't take fin. It claimed to be sides free, stronger than fin shit. There are guys using it already even tho it's not a drug yet and most people get sides like: ball aches, chest pain, sexual sides just like with fin. They are using some off the market shit so we don't know if it's 100% pure tho.
There is new stuff called cosmeRNA? or something like that. It will come out in marach in Europe. It isn't drug, it is cosmetic so it doesn't need YEARS of trials. It claims to be almost as strong as fin, you use it once weekly, ZERO SIDES (pyri claimed to have no sides too).

 

[DHTrash]

unacceptable side effects like probability of permantent libido loss

only if you believe what the PFS fudsters tell you lol. ive been fine with no sides for a year now with 2.5mg fin every day (1.25mg every 12 hrs).

 

[Sir Galachad]

only if you believe what the PFS fudsters tell you lol. ive been fine with no sides for a year now with 2.5mg fin every day (1.25mg every 12 hrs).

Ah, good you found this post. DHT is no trash hormone though. Do you workout? If yes you could probably feel the effects.
Also, I believed the tressless story of "side effects are mostly made up", but after 6 months on Fin I realised that I haven't had morning wood for a straight 3 weeks. Never happened before.

 

[DHTrash]

Do you workout? If yes you could probably feel the effects.

I do. Still doing the same amount of reps with pullups so nothing changed there.
I lost morning wood maybe just the first month.
Why is losing morning boners a bad thing though? It can lead to embarrassing situations.

 

[SoundnVision]

Have you tried topical dut

 

[Sir Galachad]

I do. Still doing the same amount of reps with pullups so nothing changed there.
I lost morning wood maybe just the first month.
Why is losing morning boners a bad thing though? It can lead to embarrassing situations.

Tells me my libidio (and therefore hormone balance) is off. And who is gonna see my penis at 8 am?

 

[Sir Galachad]

Have you tried topical dut

Nope, but there's also no reason to because it's just fin in stronger.

 

[2d v2]

After I stopped applying Finasteride because it would give me sexual sides (both oral and topical, 0.625mg daily) I tried RU58841. It's supposed to bind to androgen receptors instead of inhibiting DHT production. However, I got a very different set of sides which is why I will stop application as well. After 3 months of 0,5 to 1ml of a 5% solution I.....

....started growing hair again, just like on Fin. Finasteride worked better for me though. RU Binding affinity to receptors is stronger than tesosterone, but not as strong as DHT, so that would explain that.

...got a dry cough, starting 3 weeks ago. It is today so severe that I will stop application for 2 weeks and see if it changes.

...feel a slight pain in my upper body, probably lungs. Pain started 3 days ago. Google "Nilutamide lung side effects", I think that's what's happening here.

...uncontrolled muscle twitches throughout my whole body

The premixed solution was stored at room temperature. I never shook it, so as I am approaching the bottom, the RU is probably very dense in my leftover solution. I will order again, store in the fridge, shake before every application, use a glove and see if that changes things.

just use rogaine. The hair it gives you is way thicker then your natural hair. My hair got really thick and wavy and perfect from rogaine and coconut oil.

 

[Sir Galachad]

just use rogaine. The hair it gives you is way thicker then your natural hair. My hair got really thick and wavy and perfect from rogaine and coconut oil.

Did that, still do. Since 2 years. Doesn't get me to my perfect hairline though, just not strong enough.

 

[2d v2]

Did that, still do. Since 2 years. Doesn't get me to my perfect hairline though, just not strong enough.

use tretinoin and derma stamp on the hairline

 

[DHTrash]

Tells me my libidio (and therefore hormone balance) is off. And who is gonna see my penis at 8 am?

That doesn't make sense. Unless you can't get it up when a girl is infront of you, morning wood cannot tell you anything about if your hormones are out of whack. I got gyno during puberty, but I had the strongest morning boners back then. By your logic that means my hormone balance was okay then?

 

[SoundnVision]

Nope, but there's also no reason to because it's just fin in stronger.

Well no, in theory it won't cause sides because of its molecular size it can't go systematic.Thats why it's becoming popular

 

[Sir Galachad]

That doesn't make sense. Unless you can't get it up when a girl is infront of you, morning wood cannot tell you anything about if your hormones are out of whack. I got gyno during puberty, but I had the strongest morning boners back then. By your logic that means my hormone balance was okay then?

Not really, no but could have been other things.
Anyway have you had sex since you started fin? Because I have and really felt the difference in stiffness.

 

[Sir Galachad]

Well no, in theory it won't cause sides because of its molecular size it can't go systematic.Thats why it's becoming popular

That would make more sense. I need to look into that.

 

[callisto]

what do you mean by "aura"?

people sense how your mental state is, your health and way of thinking affects the way you behave. dht influences that very much in a good way.

 

[callisto]

only if you believe what the PFS fudsters tell you lol. ive been fine with no sides for a year now with 2.5mg fin every day (1.25mg every 12 hrs).

you better make an injection solution and pin it in your prostate to get maximum dht reduction.

god what a cuck you have to be to reject the main androgen for males. you will never know what it is like to rightfully have a god complex

you probably look like a pile of shit with average hair, so thats the only thing you hold on to.

fastest ignore in the west, i cant stand the people who think hair is more important than maximizing your ability to fuck. sacrificing the end goal for only a part of the way. utterly retarded.

 

[callisto]

Not really, no but could have been other things.
Anyway have you had sex since you started fin? Because I have and really felt the difference in stiffness.

dont assume the guy ever had sex by the way he sounds

 

[DHTrash]

main androgen

"Main" androgen whose effects are mostly paracrine. Testosterone is the main circulating androgen.
Yes, men with genetic 5-AR deficiencies are pseudohermaphrodites throughout puberty. However, post puberty aren't discernable from regular men, and a lot still develop avg size weenies. Only difference is, they cannot get bald.

you probably look like a pile of shit with average hair, so thats the only thing you hold on to.

At least I have hair. From the sounds of it you don't. You're probably a looksmaximus slaphead coper and have to resort wearing wigs JFL. Half of the men my age (25) I regularly speak to are nw3-6s and already look like 40 year old men