Saafiir admits he has had Surgeries [Proof]

[greycel]

You might of heard of Saafiir before. For any greycels reading this, he’s this guy:


He’s the true embodiment of
Considering he’s the best looking Chad who:

• isn’t
• knows he is good looking ( )
• is low Inhib to prove it in public
• has a platform other people see his interactions

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Lots of people have been debating whether his ascension from this:

To this:

Has been a result of losing baby fat/ surgery/ aging.

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In a recent TikTok of his he has revealed:

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Reasons he could be telling the truth:

• takes looks seriously, very softmaxxed
• has taken exogenous hormones, so is already a hard looksmaxxer
• made an ascension late in life, admitting to friends/family (no point lying online)
• gains nothing from telling the truth, but everything from lying (selling hope to fans so they can buy his course)
• has enough attention from women (they don’t care about his surgeries)

Reasons he could be lying:

I like that he is honest about it. There’s lots of users here who after ascending would ego trip and act like it was their genes all along

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@saafiir fan @safir2.0incoming @BadmanPlayer @first snow @Tai Lung @Daddy's Home

 

[Tai Lung]

I really don’t like him at all, just like Lucky Blue Smith. Goatis and his girlfriend rated him a 5, and I agree with them.

He looks good in his edits, but there are clips showing what he looks like in real life, and there he’s a low-mid MTN
@Clqs

4:44

 

[greycel]

I really don’t like him at all, just like Lucky Blue Smith. Goatis and his girlfriend rated him a 5, and I agree with them.

He looks good in his edits, but there are clips showing what he looks like in real life, and there he’s a low-mid MTN
@Clqs

I remember seeing that video before. Thing is that’s a bad frame IMO + the Stacy next to him ends up kissing him later:

Also if he was close to average looks, I don’t know how he gets these reactions:

 

[Saint Casanova]

I really don’t like him at all, just like Lucky Blue Smith. Goatis and his girlfriend rated him a 5, and I agree with them.

He looks good in his edits, but there are clips showing what he looks like in real life, and there he’s a low-mid MTN
@Clqs

4:44

No one gives a shit what that lunatic Goatis or his putana thinks. How cucked is it to even rate attractive men with your gf.

He is a chadlite JFL. Maybe 5 people out of 30k on here are close.

 

[Tai Lung]

I remember seeing that video before. Thing is that’s a bad frame IMO + the Stacy next to him ends up kissing him later:
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Also if he was close to average looks, I don’t know how he gets these reactions:

No one gives a shit what that lunatic Goatis or his putana thinks. How cucked is it to even rate attractive men with your gf.

He is a chadlite JFL. Maybe 5 people out of 30k on here are close.

Even if we ignore the fact that they’re most likely acquainted and he asked her to play along,
it still doesn’t prove anything.
Clavicular could easily do the same.

Bragging about interactions with girls from a club is like bragging that you managed to buy bread at a store.

 

[Saint Casanova]

Even if we ignore the fact that they’re most likely acquainted and he asked him to play along,
it still doesn’t prove anything.
Clavicular could easily do the same.

Bragging about interactions with girls from a club is like bragging that you managed to buy bread at a store.

Your body count is the best metric of your genetic, or in the case with these people, frauded genetic value so it’s a good sign irrespective of the environment. Unless they’re extremely low quality chicks I guess

 

[greycel]

Can’t believe this thread is getting 5 reps for putting an end to a debate org’s been having for the last few years
But my 0 effort “.” Thread got 7 in the first minute…

State of org

 

[greycel]

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@itzyaboyJJ @JohnBaza @The Homelander @pfl @puniteking @Jason Voorhees

 

[Beniceandkind]

Again i think you guys overate the psl and appeal of those guys. He's between HTN and chadlite in my scale nothing more. But ye he lacks harmony in a way that tells me it's surgery botch lowkey

 

[Beniceandkind]

Your body count is the best metric of your genetic, or in the case with these people, frauded genetic value so it’s a good sign irrespective of the environment. Unless they’re extremely low quality chicks I guess

ridicule claim. everyone and their dogs can have a gf, or slay mid girls, or slay simply. If genetics were determined by it then the only thing that would matter is to be able to be adored by a virgin stacy, ideally in an ltr.

 

[anthony111553]

Can’t believe this thread is getting 5 reps for putting an end to a debate org’s been having for the last few years
But my 0 effort “.” Thread got 7 in the first minute…

State of org

weird debte seeing as how he was GL before

 

[greycel]

Again i think you guys overate the psl and appeal of those guys. He's between HTN and chadlite in my scale nothing more. But ye he lacks harmony in a way that tells me it's surgery botch lowkey

It depends on definition of HTN/Chadlite/Chad for you
For me he’s a High Chad on this tierlist for PSL:

7.5 PSL+: (Terra chad, beyond all PSL icons and chads) IRL morph tier, 1/ 250 000 000 - <20 alive
Example: Hernan Drago, Isaac Moreno. Prime Salludon (not even a joke, compare him to others side by side), Hexum

7 PSL+: (PSL icon) Worshipped here, 1/ 25 000 000 - <200 alive
Example: High tier example (7.25+ PSL) = Barrett, De Poot, Alfredo Hernandez De La Cruz, Gandy, Alexander Zanoza, Louis Allen III
Normal example (7+ PSL) = Atesh Salih, Jorge Del Rio, Tyson Ballou, O’ Pry, Meeks, Henry Cavill, Massimo Del Sante

6.75 PSL+: (Giga chad) Once a lifetime you'll see one, 1/ 1 000 000 - <4000 alive
Example: Ian sommerhalder, Francsisco Lachowski, Zach Cox, Jeff Seid, Allesandro Dellisola, Simonas Pham

6.5 PSL+: (High chad) Once every few years you'll see one, 1/ 50 000 - <80000 alive
Example: Saafiir, Kaden Hammond, Colton Haynes, Sam Dezz

6 PSL+: (Chad) Few times a year sighting if you live in a busy city, 1/ 2 000 - <2 000 000 alive
Example: Mid tier chad example (6.25+ PSL) = Zayn Malik, Amnesia, Damian Kater, Alain Delon
Low tier chad example (6+ PSL) = Lorenzo Zurzolo, Alan Ritchson

Btw, APPEAL =/= PSL, so some giga/high chads like Lachowski or Delon may have more appeal than even 7.25 PSL+. Tbh, 7.25 PSL+ have probably less appeal because they look so uncanny and perfect. For example, that Twitch streamer Amouranth thought Salludon had a Gigachad Filter on and "isn't real".

Like @Saint Casanova said in terms of rarity he thinks he is equivalent to 1/10k
I’d say more like 1/50k. This being PSL

For Appeal, even though he doesn’t fit the type of aesthetic you or Lachowski have.. I don't think appeal is as simple as there being one answer. I think it goes to perfecting whatever aesthetic you are closest to. Some people are the prettyboy, some vampire, some hypermasc, etc.
I think he relies more on his masc features + bones, compared to soft features. Also he’s very softmaxxed + good health indicators:

 

[Beniceandkind]

For Appeal, even though he doesn’t fit the type of aesthetic you or Lachowski have.. I don't think appeal is as simple as there being one answer. I think it goes to perfecting whatever aesthetic you are closest to. Some people are the prettyboy, some vampire, some hypermasc, etc.
I think he relies more on his masc features + bones, compared to soft features. Also he’s very softmaxxed + good health indicators

i agree obviously on that. Everyone has a niche or is closer to a certain niche and should max it out. But like i would say someone like him would have lower class ( what guys usually prefer i guess bimbo type ) appeal. While i would rather have the opposite. And it's good because i'm repulsed by low class ( not economically but you get me ) bimbos.

It depends on definition of HTN/Chadlite/Chad for you
For me he’s a High Chad on this tierlist for PSL:

uhm maybe. but when i see him unfrauded he is just good looking, not like super ethereal. from my irl experience he is more like 1 in 1-2k rather than 1 in 50k, at least purely facially.

 

[first snow]

mirin him

 

[chadhamed]

I really don’t like him at all, just like Lucky Blue Smith. Goatis and his girlfriend rated him a 5, and I agree with them.

He looks good in his edits, but there are clips showing what he looks like in real life, and there he’s a low-mid MTN
@Clqs

4:44

lmao if safir is a 5 then goatis is a - 5

 

[Remeliawpckhardt]

I really don’t like him at all, just like Lucky Blue Smith. Goatis and his girlfriend rated him a 5, and I agree with them.

He looks good in his edits, but there are clips showing what he looks like in real life, and there he’s a low-mid MTN
@Clqs

4:44

Balding testicle eating chipmunk hates on cl. Caging lol.

 

[Iblamehyo]

The fillers were obv asf tho

 

[RapeAllFemales]

His frauding with contacts lol i recognize cause i fraud too with green contacts

 

[truthhurts]

Where did he imply for getting surgeries?

 

[greycel]

His frauding with contacts lol i recognize cause i fraud too with green contacts

He posted pics when he was a kid he had green eyes in it in a TT vid
Also he’s admitted that’s his eye colour, idk why he would lie about getting surgery but not that
Also he’s Nafri, and they tend to have green eyes there

You might just have high quality contacts it looks similar

 

[greycel]

Where did he imply for getting surgeries?

 

[truthhurts]

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Yea? Did his comment apply to his before ascension picture?
He doesnt speak english fluently tho, maybe he mispelled it

 

[greycel]

Yea? Did his comment apply to his before ascension picture?
He doesnt speak english fluently tho, maybe he mispelled it

The ss was below the TikTok vid in the original post of this thread

 

[greycel]

Yea? Did his comment apply to his before ascension picture?
He doesnt speak english fluently tho, maybe he mispelled it

Here:

The video was about his looksmaxxing change

 

[isegrim314]

12 reps for this thread is criminal

 

[truthhurts]

Here:
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The video was about his looksmaxxing change

I dont necessarily think you can use it as evidence. There might be a slight mispelling in his sentence, additionally this guy denies surgeries in his other tiktoks or comment sections

 

[greycel]

12 reps for this thread is criminal

Jfl it is what it is
This is lowkey an answer to maybe 1000s of posts on org have been about

 

[greycel]

I dont necessarily think you can use it as evidence. There might be a slight mispelling in his sentence, additionally this guy denies surgeries in his other tiktoks or comment sections

orc mentioned that he admitted to specifically using fillers in a different video once, but he didn’t get a ss
Also I don’t know how “I had surgery” can be assumed to mean anything but that
Esp in a looksmaxxing transformation video

 

[truthhurts]

orc mentioned that he admitted to specifically using fillers in a different video once, but he didn’t get a ss

Whats a ss seriously?

Also I don’t know how “I had surgery” can be assumed to mean anything but that
Esp in a looksmaxxing transformation video

Its me without surgery doesnt transalte to that he had surgery in his after pic. Every time this guy posts of his before and after pic, users immediately claim surgeries

 

[KKKuroiso]

 

[ltncurry]

I really don’t like him at all, just like Lucky Blue Smith. Goatis and his girlfriend rated him a 5, and I agree with them.

He looks good in his edits, but there are clips showing what he looks like in real life, and there he’s a low-mid MTN
@Clqs

4:44

 

[ltncurry]

btw good thread bhai, I think he’s frauding his height too with insoles apparently

 

[JohnBaza]

You might of heard of Saafiir before. For any greycels reading this, he’s this guy:


He’s the true embodiment of
Considering he’s the best looking Chad who:

• isn’t
• knows he is good looking ( )
• is low Inhib to prove it in public
• has a platform other people see his interactions

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Lots of people have been debating whether his ascension from this:
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To this:
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Has been a result of losing baby fat/ surgery/ aging.

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In a recent TikTok of his he has revealed:


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​

Reasons he could be telling the truth:

• takes looks seriously, very softmaxxed
• has taken exogenous hormones, so is already a hard looksmaxxer
• made an ascension late in life, admitting to friends/family (no point lying online)
• gains nothing from telling the truth, but everything from lying (selling hope to fans so they can buy his course)
• has enough attention from women (they don’t care about his surgeries)

Reasons he could be lying:

I like that he is honest about it. There’s lots of users here who after ascending would ego trip and act like it was their genes all along

Spoiler: Tags

@saafiir fan @safir2.0incoming @BadmanPlayer @first snow @Tai Lung @Daddy's Home

he is obviously joking in the comments bro
andjfl at the cumskins coping that he is mtn/htn he is a chad

 

[greycel]

he is obviously joking in the comments bro
andjfl at the cumskins coping that he is mtn/htn he is a chad

He's admitted in other videos too according to orc, he has said he got fillers before
And if you look at his jaw transformation it makes sense

 

[JohnBaza]

He's admitted in other videos too according to orc, he has said he got fillers before
And if you look at his jaw transformation it makes sense

according to orc bro
let @Orc send the vids
but yeah even if he did surgery doesnt impcat his appeal. girls wont know that he did surgery when he fucks them

 

[greycel]

according to orc bro
let @Orc send the vids
but yeah even if he did surgery doesnt impcat his appeal. girls wont know that he did surgery when he fucks them

They know but they don't care
Women like guys who are deserve worthy of appeal. It's why they like guys who are ultra softmaxxed/ might look slightly uncanny from surgery. Because that person deserves attraction

 

[Surfsup]

saafir is literally blackpilled
I remember seeing an ig story of his where some white girl was getting his name tatted on her and he was laughing dude
she was probably just another slay for him he prob doesn't care for her yet she's so obsessed with chad she's willing to get his name tatted on her actually brutal
Saafir doesn't even care about her lol