Sadly, Its time for me to get off Finasteride and explanation why I am

[nuisance]

Ive been on multiple different does of topical finasteride over the last six months and its been a very bumpy ride.

The good things I noticed was insane reduction of acne and sebderm, my skin also feels super smooth and bright although Im not sure if that is from the fin. No hair growth yet.

Now the bad things started the first week, I noticed gyno symptoms, burning itchy nips. This varied in severity throughout the six months and I hoped it would go away and it did not even on liposmal finasteride that I paid 165$ for. I noticed slight growth in the gyno.

Now I would be ok with that and was planning to still use it anyway but at month five I noticed a pretty drastic drop in libido, around 50% and it slowly got worse throughout last month. It got to the point where it took a lot more effort to achieve and hold an erection which I have never had a problem my whole life. I haven't had the urge to jerk off in over a month. Also morning wood disappeared.

Ive also felt a lot more sensitive and emotional sort of less "aggressive" lately. Gym performance has also suffered. Im on a cut and its insanely hard to lose chest fat and hip fat while everything is already lean.

The male penis is kind of a use-it-or-lose-it thing, you need nighttime erections and morning wood to keep it healthy. I decided to stop finasteride because of this I don't want to end up with some shit like peyronies disease or something from lack of erections and high estrogen activity id probably kill myself.

Ive actually found some cases of men that got peyronies disease while using finasteride and the weird thing is majority of them also had a gyno side effect. Testosterone and DHT prevent fibrosis in the penis and when there is a lot of estrogen activity and weak soft erections that just sounds like recipe for disaster.

I've been researching hair loss for the past two years and I've concluded that some individuals like me need dht to antagonize estrogen in the body, I got a blood test and my estrogen and testosterone are in range yet I am experiencing symptoms of high estrogen. There are some people that treat gynecomastia with dht gel on their nipples it is an excellent estrogen antagonizer.

I know some of you guys will say placebo and I probably would have said the same thing to a post like this 3 months ago but its sadly real.

Finasteride is not a once size fits all medication, some people might be fine but some people need that dht to antagonize estrogen. It is worth a try though.

IMO if you have lower libido or gyno symptoms on fnasteride that don't go away after 3 months of use just drop it. It not healthy to be walking around with to much estrogen activity you can get a bunch of problems.

 

[Youㅤ]

Now I would be ok with that and was planning to still use it anyway but at month five I noticed a pretty drastic drop in libido, around 50% and it slowly got worse throughout last month. It got to the point where it took a lot more effort to achieve and hold an erection which I have never had a problem my whole life. I haven't had the urge to jerk off in over a month. Also morning wood disappeared.

this is a good thing IMO

 

[User28823]

my condolences to your hairline

 

[nuisance]

this is a good thing IMO

your dick needs a bunch of good quaility rections day and night to be healthy

 

[chrishell]

Being bald is tantamount to castration anyway

 

[nuisance]

my condolences to your hairline

tragic I hope minox can at least let me enjoy some of my 20s

 

[Youㅤ]

your dick needs a bunch of good quaility rections day and night to be healthy

my dick will never touch a pussy so cope . rather be asexual

 

[User28823]

tragic I hope minox can at least let me enjoy some of my 20s

have u tried topical dutasteride? its less systemic than topical fin and less systemic than oral dut & fin, obv

 

[nuisance]

have u tried topical dutasteride? its less systemic than topical fin and less systemic than oral dut & fin, obv

I've talked to many men over the years on topical dutasteride, its not very easy to figure out how to use it. Some people's scalps are more permeable, some carriers can make it go systemic. The majority of men that I talked to with gyno issue say that it takes longer to develop those feelings but it still comes anyways.

 

[nuisance]

have u tried topical dutasteride? its less systemic than topical fin and less systemic than oral dut & fin, obv

Its funny I've used a 0.05% liposomal version of fin from the best topical finasteride pharmacy on the world yet my nips still end up swollen and itchy eventually.

Every time after a week of stopping it goes away

 

[User28823]

I've talked to many men over the years on topical dutasteride, its not very easy to figure out how to use it. Some people's scalps are more permeable, some carriers can make it go systemic. The majority of men that I talked to with gyno issue say that it takes longer to develop those feelings but it still comes anyways.

gyno surgery?

all other sides are manageable

 

[nuisance]

gyno surgery?

all other sides are manageable

Gyno surgery was always the plan if it got bad, just the libido problem and lack of morning wood worries me a lot.

Might seem far-fetched but the thing that terrifies me most is Peyronie's disease which I mentioned. Ive done a lot of research on finasteride over the years and sometimes ill notice a paper or a anecdote of someone getting peyronies on finasteride and I put it in the back of my mind until the low libido hit me. The majority of them also got gyno which is a rare symptom of finasteride and i am that category. Testosterone and dht prevent penile fibrosis and estrogen encourages it as seen in hrt patients. Older men get it from weak erections and low testosterone. Good erections and good hormones levels prevent it.

If i got peyronies id probably end my life ngl

 

[User28823]

Gyno surgery was always the plan if it got bad, just the libido problem and lack of morning wood worries me a lot.

Might seem far-fetched but the thing that terrifies me most is Peyronie's disease which I mentioned. Ive done a lot of research on finasteride over the years and sometimes ill notice a paper or a anecdote of someone getting peyronies on finasteride and I put it in the back of my mind until the low libido hit me. The majority of them also got gyno which is a rare symptom of finasteride and don't want to be put in that category. Testosterone and dht prevent penile fibrosis and estrogen encourages it as seen in hrt patients. Older men get it from weak erections and low testosterone. Good erections and good hormones levels prevent it.

If i got peyronies id probably end my life ngl

just take viagra then

ur not gonna rope from peyronies jfl you'll get dick surgery before you'd rope, i would know cause i have to - and no its not from fin, but from an injury in my teens

 

[nuisance]

just take viagra then

ur not gonna rope from peyronies jfl you'll get dick surgery before you'd rope, i would know cause i have to - and no its not from fin, but from an injury in my teens

im gonna start minoxidil again and mabye get back to the idea of trying fin again once my libido returns. Min did me good the first time I got me to a nw 1.5 by itself. i stopped it cuz i was thinking i just wanna use fin to.

Its possible I'm cutting to harshly and its affecting my libido but idk it feels a lot different than I remembered compared to my first cut .

I heard peyronies is treatable but its not curable?

 

[User28823]

im gonna start minoxidil again and mabye get back to the idea of trying fin again once my libido returns. Min did me good the first time I got me to a nw 1.5 by itself. i stopped it cuz i was thinking i just wanna use fin to.

Its possible I'm cutting to harshly and its affecting my libido but idk it feels a lot different than I remembered.

I heard peyronies is treatable but its not curable?

its curable with a good surgeon

 

[nuisance]

its curable with a good surgeon

Good luck with yours bro genuinely, its a pretty shitty thing hope it works out for you. It developed before you took fin right?

I'm just not happy with the bendy jelly softer dick fin gives me, feels like I could get it injured easily.My hairloss isn't that bad yet I'm still holding out hope I have my dads hair genetics he has a thick NW3 since his late 20s and not my grandpa which is nw6. Im around 2-2.5 ish at 21.

If it gets thinner ill probably hop on Cialis and fin again.

 

[CsCurry]

Have you tried topical fin?

Basically the same effects on hair as regular fin but less systemic.

If not I guess it’s time to start saving for Istanbul

 

[nuisance]

Have you tried topical fin?

Basically the same effects on hair as regular fin but less systemic.

If not I guess it’s time to start saving for Istanbul

yea trust me I tried everything

I even paid 165$ for 0.05% liposomal finasteride from the best pharmacy in the world for topical fin applying only 1/3 of the dosage to my temples. Burning nips always come back and always go away after stopping for a couple days. Im just hope I have my dads hair and not my granpas, cuz if its my granpa even Istanbul wont save me.

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

Just hop on an aromatase inhibitor lil nigga

 

[SubhumanForever]

Who is the foid below your post?

 

[nuisance]

Just hop on an aromatase inhibitor lil nigga

my estrodial is in range

 

[nuisance]

Who is the foid below your post?

Who is the foid below your post?

blanca soler

 

[nuisance]

Being bald is tantamount to castration anyway

i had the same mentality as that, but when it actually happens to you and your dick feels like its not functioning well its quite scary

I guess it goes both ways if i really bald hard I dont want to end up like this eiether

 

[Thebuffdon]

i had the same mentality as that, but when it actually happens to you and your dick feels like its not functioning well its quite scary

I guess it goes both ways if i really bald hard I dont want to end up like this eiether
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Have you used dut before?

 

[nuisance]

Have you used dut before?

I dont want to risk it there are some anecdotes that it can help, but the science shows it will just make side effects worse

 

[Thebuffdon]

I dont want to risk it there are some anecdotes that it can help, but the science shows it will just make side effects worse

What side effects though? Most of what I’ve heard with it isn’t that bad

 

[nuisance]

What side effects though? Most of what I’ve heard with it isn’t that bad

Did you read my post?

low libido, weak erections, and gynocomastia

 

[Thebuffdon]

Did you read my post?

low libido, weak erections, and gynocomastia

That was from fin

 

[nuisance]

That was from fin

yea and dut has the same side effects it is also stronger than finasteride it inhibits type 1 and type 2 5AR and way more dht

 

[Thebuffdon]

yea and dut has the same side effects it is also stronger than finasteride it inhibits type 1 and type 2 5AR and way more dht

So why do ppl take it over fin?

And why isn’t it talked about as much as fin if it’s way stronger

 

[nuisance]

So why do ppl take it over fin?

And why isn’t it talked about as much as fin if it’s way stronger

people take it because its stronger, its basically impossible to go bald on dutasteride on finasteride if your hair loss is strong enough it could still fall out.

It has the same mechanism of action as finasteride it inhibits 5ar which stops the conversion of testosterone to dht. Finasteride inhibits up to 70% of dht while dutasteride inhibits 90%.

Its not talked as much s fin because fin is fda approved for hairloss and dutasteride is not. Also dutasteride causes the same side effects as finasteride just at a higher rate.

 

[Thebuffdon]

people take it because its stronger, its basically impossible to go bald on dutasteride on finasteride if your hair loss is strong enough it could still fall out.

It has the same mechanism of action as finasteride it inhibits 5ar which stops the conversion of testosterone to dht. Finasteride inhibits up to 70% of dht while dutasteride inhibits 90%.

Its not talked as much s fin because fin is fda approved for hairloss and dutasteride is not. Also dutasteride causes the same side effects as finasteride just at a higher rate.

Dut is fda approved

 

[nuisance]

Dut is fda approved

not for hairloss its approved for BPH

 

[JohnDoe]

Good man.

 

[incelbhai]

look up pfs post finasteride syndrome

 

[Maalik]

I find it baffling how DHT grows beard hair but rapes scalp hair

 

[BlondeB1tch]

just take viagra then

ur not gonna rope from peyronies jfl you'll get dick surgery before you'd rope, i would know cause i have to - and no its not from fin, but from an injury in my teens

Viagra doesn't help ED caused by fin, I still have it after stopping 3 months after and even cialis doesn't help me

 

[yue]

what was your dose bhai

 

[User28823]

Viagra doesn't help ED caused by fin, I still have it after stopping 3 months after and even cialis doesn't help me

use androgenic penile gels

 

[nuisance]

what was your dose bhai

initially 0.25mg oral, then 0.1% topical 1/2 to 1/3 dose for 5 months then 0.05% liposomal 1/3 dose.

 

[nuisance]

Viagra doesn't help ED caused by fin, I still have it after stopping 3 months after and even cialis doesn't help me

did you consistently have it or did it get worse after stopping?

If it didn't get worse you should be fine just focus on your health and wellness it should come back. =

 

[nuisance]

Viagra doesn't help ED caused by fin, I still have it after stopping 3 months after and even cialis doesn't help me

you posted today tat you are stil on propecia 1mg, if you are lower your dose or go topical it might help 1mg is alot

 

[nuisance]

use androgenic penile gels

I think its a mental block and not a physical block, mine is not that bad but i can see it getting worse into not being interested in sex at all you cant maintain an erection if you don't want sex.

Its like you should be able to get an erection by thinking of sex, but it won't come cause you feel like your not even into it.

 

[User28823]

I think its a mental block and not a physical block, mine is not that bad but i can see it getting worse into not being interested in sex at all you cant maintain an erection if you don't want sex.

Its like you should be able to get an erection by thinking of sex, but it won't come cause you feel like your not even into it.

nah there are other factors at play

@BlondeB1tch is right in that cialis and viagra won't work for ED when u block 5-ar

u need more androgens getting produced locally rather than systemically, so u can try androgenic topicals like DHT gel or drugs that will increase androgen production in the gonads

 

[bradpittshairline]

Try adjusting your dosage

 

[nuisance]

nah there are other factors at play

@BlondeB1tch is right in that cialis and viagra won't work for ED when u block 5-ar

u need more androgens getting produced locally rather than systemically, so u can try androgenic topicals like DHT gel or drugs that will increase androgen production in the gonads

They are kinda talking more about when dht is being actively inhibited. Once DHT gets back in the picture after a couple weeks or months hormones should go back to baseline and libido should return.

 

[nuisance]

Try adjusting your dosage

I already tried, I took 0.05% 1/3 dose of a liposomal topical still burning nips come and go away after stopping for a week.

 

[User28823]

They are kinda talking more about when dht is being actively inhibited. Once DHT gets back in the picture after a couple weeks or months hormones should go back to baseline and libido should return.

have u checked ur dht? did u get baseline blood work before starting?

 

[nuisance]

have u checked ur dht? did u get baseline blood work before starting?

I didn't sadly, im not worrying to much about something like pfs I fully expect to get better in the coming months. Nipple sides are already calming down a bit> I can still get an erection its just a bit weaker because i don't care much for sex due to libido.

 

[copemaxxeer]

If i got peyronies id probably end my life ngl

You could still date femboys, better than being bald