(Science-backed) Why you should never do first dates in restaurants

[sadcel]

According to Wifitalents (https://wifitalents.com/first-date-statistics) :

- 80% of first dates end without a second date.

- 42% of people had a "bad" first date experience.

- 15% of people report being ghosted following their first date.

- 48% of first dates end with plans to meet again.

- 50% of people have successfully gone on a second date with someone they met online (another study btw).

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Study 1 – Original “Foodie Call” Research (2019)​

Citation:
Collisson, B., Howell, J. L., & Harig, T. (2019). Foodie Calls: When Women Date Men for a Free Meal (Rather Than a Relationship). Social Psychological and Personality Science, 11(3). DOI: 10.1177/1948550619856308
https://neurosciencenews.com/food-dating-dark-triad-14291/?utm_source=chatgpt.com
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/06/190621140343.htm


Key Findings:

• 23 % of women in the first sample (820 participants) reported they had gone on a date solely for a free meal, without romantic interest.
• In a second sample (357 participants), 33 % of women reported the same.
• Women who engaged in foodie calls tended to score higher on Dark Triad personality traits (narcissism, Machiavellianism, psychopathy).
• They also were more likely to hold traditional gender role beliefs (e.g., men should pay for dates).Most women never engaged in foodie calls; this was not a majority behavior.

Study 2 – Cross-Cultural Registered Replication (2023)​

Citation:
Orhan, M. A., Collisson, B., Howell, J. L., Kowal, M., & Pollet, T. V. (2023). Comparing Foodie Calls in Poland, the United Kingdom, and the United States: A Registered Replication Report. Psychological Reports, 128(2), 1004–1023. DOI: 10.1177/00332941231164079
https://researchportal.northumbria....stered-replication.pdf?utm_source=chatgpt.com

Comparing Foodie Calls in Poland, the United Kingdom, and the United States: A Registered Replication Report - PMC

Collisson et al. (2020) found Dark Triad traits and gender role beliefs predicted “foodie calls,” a phenomenon where people go on a date with others, to whom they are not attracted, for a free meal. Because gender roles and dating norms differ ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Key Findings:

• Sample: 1,838 women across Poland, UK, and US.
• Traditional gender role beliefs were the strongest predictor of having engaged in a foodie call.
• The influence of Dark Triad traits varied by country: in some nations, they predicted foodie calls; in others, they did not.
• Shows cultural differences in why women might accept a date for food alone.
• Confirms the original study’s finding that foodie calls exist, but prevalence and predictors vary across populations.

If you take a girl in restaurant for a first date you are a subhuman cuck and you should have probably saved that money for surgeries

If she really was interested by you any place would work btw...

TLDR;a big pourcentage of first dates don't lead to a second date + a pourcentage of women admitted they gone to a date primarly just to eat.

 

[BWCisLAW]

So what are the alternatives then?

Going to the movies and not talking to each other at all?

 

[sadcel]

So what are the alternatives then?

Going to the movies and not talking to each other at all?

Go to a cozy bar to get drinks, if she refuses she just wants to eat using your cuck money.

 

[Big Daddy]

1. Long walks
2. Long walks
3. Long walks
4. Long walks
5. Long walks

 

[sadcel]

1. Long walks
2. Long walks
3. Long walks
4. Long walks
5. Long walks

This or a good bar where you can get cheap drinks

 

[GonorrhoeaGobbler]

So what are the alternatives then?

Going to the movies and not talking to each other at all?

have a massive harem with whores you fucked on the first date JFL if you actually want to date in the West

 

[Big Daddy]

This or a good bar where you can get cheap drinks

Cringe

 

[Divineincel]

So what are the alternatives then?

Going to the movies and not talking to each other at all?

Alternative is just being attractive, if you’re a chad you could a take a girl to do drugs around ghettos and she will still be attracted to you

 

[BWCisLAW]

Go to a cozy bar to get drinks, if she refuses she just want to eat using your cuck money.

Oh yeah or maybe a coffee date.

Tbh there is no reason to be spending money on her meal for the first date.

 

[Big Daddy]

Alternative is just being attractive, if you’re a chad you could a take a girl to do drugs around ghettos and she will still be attracted to you

Very original contribution

 

[sadcel]

Tbh there is no reason to be spending money on her meal for the first date.

 

[Divineincel]

Very original contribution

I know this is water but dating in the west is a circus where men are expected to amuse women

 

[optimisticzoomer]

Dating is jester
Monkmaxx

 

[Olympus]

I hate how it is trying to get a gf now.
Can we revert back to caveman era where we found a mate attractive had a deep connection to them and just had sex and made 7 kids
Life was so peak back then, now it’s shower your gf in stupid materialistic things that have zero worth to try and appeal to her.

 

[Clqs]

Alternative is just being attractive, if you’re a chad you could a take a girl to do drugs around ghettos and she will still be attracted to you

 

[Big Daddy]

I know this is water but dating in the west is a circus where men are expected to amuse women

Stfu

 

[sadcel]

Dating is jester
Monkmaxx
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I should have done this very long ago.

 

[sadcel]

I hate how it is trying to get a gf now.
Can we revert back to caveman era where we found a mate attractive had a deep connection to them and just had sex and made 7 kids
Life was so peak back then, now it’s shower your gf in stupid materialistic things that have zero worth to try and appeal to her.

You must find the most expensive restaurant in your area bro you need to be a gentleman

All your salary must go in pointless dates with foids that will ghost you once they're home but hey atleast you get many dates you're not an inkwell

 

[Laczekkk]

According to Wifitalents (https://wifitalents.com/first-date-statistics) :

- 80% of first dates end without a second date.

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- 42% of people had a "bad" first date experience.

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- 15% of people report being ghosted following their first date.

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- 48% of first dates end with plans to meet again.

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- 50% of people have successfully gone on a second date with someone they met online (another study btw).

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​

Study 1 – Original “Foodie Call” Research (2019)​

Citation:
Collisson, B., Howell, J. L., & Harig, T. (2019). Foodie Calls: When Women Date Men for a Free Meal (Rather Than a Relationship). Social Psychological and Personality Science, 11(3). DOI: 10.1177/1948550619856308
https://neurosciencenews.com/food-dating-dark-triad-14291/?utm_source=chatgpt.com
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/06/190621140343.htm


Key Findings:

• 23 % of women in the first sample (820 participants) reported they had gone on a date solely for a free meal, without romantic interest.
• In a second sample (357 participants), 33 % of women reported the same.
• Women who engaged in foodie calls tended to score higher on Dark Triad personality traits (narcissism, Machiavellianism, psychopathy).
• They also were more likely to hold traditional gender role beliefs (e.g., men should pay for dates).Most women never engaged in foodie calls; this was not a majority behavior.

Study 2 – Cross-Cultural Registered Replication (2023)​

Citation:
Orhan, M. A., Collisson, B., Howell, J. L., Kowal, M., & Pollet, T. V. (2023). Comparing Foodie Calls in Poland, the United Kingdom, and the United States: A Registered Replication Report. Psychological Reports, 128(2), 1004–1023. DOI: 10.1177/00332941231164079
https://researchportal.northumbria....stered-replication.pdf?utm_source=chatgpt.com

Comparing Foodie Calls in Poland, the United Kingdom, and the United States: A Registered Replication Report - PMC

Collisson et al. (2020) found Dark Triad traits and gender role beliefs predicted “foodie calls,” a phenomenon where people go on a date with others, to whom they are not attracted, for a free meal. Because gender roles and dating norms differ ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Key Findings:

• Sample: 1,838 women across Poland, UK, and US.
• Traditional gender role beliefs were the strongest predictor of having engaged in a foodie call.
• The influence of Dark Triad traits varied by country: in some nations, they predicted foodie calls; in others, they did not.
• Shows cultural differences in why women might accept a date for food alone.
• Confirms the original study’s finding that foodie calls exist, but prevalence and predictors vary across populations.

If you take a girl in restaurant for a first date you are a subhuman cuck and you should have probably saved that money for surgeries

If she really was interested by you any place would work btw...

TLDR;a big pourcentage of first dates don't lead to a second date + a pourcentage of women admitted they gone to a date primarly just to eat.

TLDR; don’t waste money on foids.

 

[sadcel]

Cringe

that's the minimum in 2026

 

[datboijj]

Alternative is just being attractive, if you’re a chad you could a take a girl to do drugs around ghettos and she will still be attracted to you

David gandy said the best first date is his apartment

 

[sadcel]

David gandy said the best first date is his apartment

I have a good looking friend who does first dates in his car JFL

 

[Ghoulish]

I took her to one of those fucking halal McDonald’s ripoffs. We dated for a few months after.

The food was banging tho.

 

[Ghoulish]

I have a good looking friend who does first dates in his car JFL

Nigga just drives around on motorways

 

[zygosmasher12]

I never have and never will take a bitch out on a 1st date if it costs over 20. Going on walks and sitting in the park has always worked for me and has been my go to, if the bitch likes you she will be happy with that (from my experience) and you can actually get to know her without risking getting scammed

 

[sadcel]

I took her to one of those fucking halal McDonald’s ripoffs. We dated for a few months after.

The food was banging tho.

MashaAllah brother

 

[sadcel]

I never have and never will take a bitch out on a 1st date if it costs over 20. Going on walks and sitting in the park has always worked for me and has been my go to, if the bitch likes you she will be happy with that (from my experience) and you can actually get to know her without risking getting scammed

Good for you bhai, I had a bitch foid who wanted to meet at a restaurant so bad and refused a bar JFL she ghosted me now I think

 

[zygosmasher12]

Good for you bhai, I had a bitch foid who wanted to meet on a restaurant and refused a bar JFL she ghosted me now I think

Dude you should be celebrating, you just scammed the scammer good shit

 

[sadcel]

Dude you should be celebrating, you just scammed the scammer good shit

Dude if i was a real demon I would have told her to meet somewhere in a good restaurant and let her go there alone JFL

 

[zygosmasher12]

Dude if i was a real demon I would have told her to meet somewhere in a good restaurant and let her go there alone JFL

Smart, up to you, depends how much of a bitch she is and how much you wanna do it

 

[sadcel]

Smart, up to you, depends how much of a bitch she is and how much you wanna do it

I just wanna be loved bhai

 

[zygosmasher12]

I just wanna be loved bhai

We all do pal, it does hurt. I pray for all of us we find love someday. Gotta love yourself first and foremost or you’re gonna live a sad life

 

[sadcel]

B