Should I hop on roids/sarms or stay natty?

[FootballPlaya69]

Need 20 more lbs of muscle imo

 

[Deusmaximus]

How tall and how old?

 

[FootballPlaya69]

How tall and how old?

6’1
23

 

[XAE17]

you're fine tbh. Stay natty, take mk677 at best. dont take steroids

 

[Deleted member 9467]

bdd if u think ur not ripped enough

or u play a sport and need to

 

[white girls lover]

no idk how you even got to this forum when you are 6‘1 tbh

 

[AscensionMan98]

6’1
23

It depends. If your white then no, if your ethnic then a few cycles won't cause must collagen loss, and with mk-677 and collagen supplementation a lot of it would be avoided. Whites tend to age the quickest, so should. be careful. Ethnics can get away with a few cycles of low doses but after that its also going to cause risks of premature aging.

Overall though the question is whether you want to be a roided turbo slayer potentially for a few years ( if your face and height were decent to be begin with ), or would just have a more moderate amount of slaying with a good natty body ( and retain most of your collagen on your face as long as you wear sunscreen properly, avoid tanning,avoid drinking/smoking, eat healthy , etf).

Its up to you, but I'd rather just extend potential years of overall appeal to prime women. Yes if you get some insane body that is even 80% of Jeff said and zyzz it will get insane amount of ioi, is it worth risking hair loss, facial aging, for a little muscle.

A better alternative would be to do clomid and get high t levels natty, and combine it with mk-677. This would provide some extra gains but nothing roid like.

Based on your pics unless your target is older foids in their late 20s, you could risk collagen loss of a substantial amount. Your overall muscle is fine, and another 20 lbs isn't going to be some instant pussy wetting device.Too much muscle can look too try hard and make you look comical ( but that's only for roid heads on large doses).

 

[AlexBrown84]

What’s your test levels?

Mine are 1355 btw @Thompsonz

 

[ItsOVERBuddyBoyos]

It depends. If your white then no, if your ethnic then a few cycles won't cause must collagen loss, and with mk-677 and collagen supplementation a lot of it would be avoided. Whites tend to age the quickest, so should. be careful. Ethnics can get away with a few cycles of low doses but after that its also going to cause risks of premature aging.

Overall though the question is whether you want to be a roided turbo slayer potentially for a few years ( if your face and height were decent to be begin with ), or would just have a more moderate amount of slaying with a good natty body ( and retain most of your collagen on your face as long as you wear sunscreen properly, avoid tanning,avoid drinking/smoking, eat healthy , etf).

Its up to you, but I'd rather just extend potential years of overall appeal to prime women. Yes if you get some insane body that is even 80% of Jeff said and zyzz it will get insane amount of ioi, is it worth risking hair loss, facial aging, for a little muscle.

A better alternative would be to do clomid and get high t levels natty, and combine it with mk-677. This would provide some extra gains but nothing roid like.

Based on your pics unless your target is older foids in their late 20s, you could risk collagen loss of a substantial amount. Your overall muscle is fine, and another 20 lbs isn't going to be some instant pussy wetting device.Too much muscle can look too try hard and make you look comical ( but that's only for roid heads on large doses).

So ethnics can get away with a few test only cycles?

I'm currently taking m677 and lgd4033 and have put on like 15 pounds in like few months of very sporadic lifting. Like did 6 weeks, stopped for a month and did 4 weeks so far.

OP is pretty big already, he could get everything he needs from just LGD or RAD.
Do these SARMS also cause collagen loss and aging like the juice?

 

[ItsOVERBuddyBoyos]

It depends. If your white then no, if your ethnic then a few cycles won't cause must collagen loss, and with mk-677 and collagen supplementation a lot of it would be avoided. Whites tend to age the quickest, so should. be careful. Ethnics can get away with a few cycles of low doses but after that its also going to cause risks of premature aging.

Overall though the question is whether you want to be a roided turbo slayer potentially for a few years ( if your face and height were decent to be begin with ), or would just have a more moderate amount of slaying with a good natty body ( and retain most of your collagen on your face as long as you wear sunscreen properly, avoid tanning,avoid drinking/smoking, eat healthy , etf).

Its up to you, but I'd rather just extend potential years of overall appeal to prime women. Yes if you get some insane body that is even 80% of Jeff said and zyzz it will get insane amount of ioi, is it worth risking hair loss, facial aging, for a little muscle.

A better alternative would be to do clomid and get high t levels natty, and combine it with mk-677. This would provide some extra gains but nothing roid like.

Based on your pics unless your target is older foids in their late 20s, you could risk collagen loss of a substantial amount. Your overall muscle is fine, and another 20 lbs isn't going to be some instant pussy wetting device.Too much muscle can look too try hard and make you look comical ( but that's only for roid heads on large doses).

Clomid to boost t levels not as a pct?
Thats the first ive heard of that.

I've got some nolvadex would that work?

Do you have any advice or links about using it this way?
I got it incase of test shutdown to restart production?

 

[HAPAgymcel]

nah man, you mog 99% of this site despite the amount of bluffing around here

 

[HAPAgymcel]

no idk how you even got to this forum when you are 6‘1 tbh

bro has Derek from More Plates More Dates potential too

 

[LightSkinNoob]

Framecel

 

[poopmaster22]

U play football?

 

[FootballPlaya69]

U play football?

nah

 

[poopmaster22]

nah

Aids. Regardless based off your photo you should not be on this site but instead shave your hair on your body and got fuck some Stacy’s

 

[TeenAscender]

no idk how you even got to this forum when you are 6‘1 tbh

because upper class white men are tall as shit

 

[AscensionMan98]

Clomid to boost t levels not as a pct?
Thats the first ive heard of that.

I've got some nolvadex would that work?

Do you have any advice or links about using it this way?
I got it incase of test shutdown to restart production?

Yes nolvadex , also called tamoxifen citrate, is like clomid a type of serm. Helps to boost ur test levels to normal post cycle. How much your test is shut down is depends on dosage . You would do it after your steroid cycle, but make sure you order it before you start the cycle, as well as your armridex to maintain your estrogen in a normal amount vs excess. That would be on cycle.

 

[chigoha]

rad 140 + mk677 , do 4 weeks on 4 weeks off to avoid any T supression effects

if you have balding genes replace rad 140 with lgd 4033

 

[ItsOVERBuddyBoyos]

rad 140 + mk677 , do 4 weeks on 4 weeks off to avoid any T supression effects

if you have balding genes replace rad 140 with lgd 4033

LGD + mk677 ive used and works.
I was told to do 8 week cycle and then use nolvadex for 4 weeks.

Does 4 weeks give decent gains? and you just naturally pct?

 

[chigoha]

LGD + mk677 ive used and works.
I was told to do 8 week cycle and then use nolvadex for 4 weeks.

Does 4 weeks give decent gains? and you just naturally pct?

i meant you do 4 weeks on, then 4 weeks break , and then redo 4 weeks on , instead of straight 8 weeks
and to what i heard sarms don't cause enough suppression to require a pct