should i roid, is the ROI worth it

[Alexander Sorgers]

im thinking about hoping on 250mg testosterone and 3-6 ius hgh for development (20 years old)
unfortunatly i missed helathmaxing in my peak development years. atm im healthmaxing but im already 20 years old so it will have way less impact on my bone development. I know that clavicles and facial bones will develop until 25 approx, height until 21. i plan on using hgh and testosterone (dutasteride aswell) to max out the potential that is left to develop wider clavicles. ofc this will be a health reducing approach and after i achieved what is still possible ill go back to nature so i wondered if its worth it or if the gain is little to notice that its not

 

[Alexander Sorgers]

@chadisbeingmade

 

[Med Amine]

Yeah go for it
Reduce test to 200 tho

 

[ukranian]

in general if youre smart about it roiding sides can be mitigated as well as long term health. with hgh there is more at play because you need to keep insulin sensitivity high and you need to plan your diet around that too (eating less carbs for example). imo for you its too late

 

[cromagnon]

at 20, hardmaxxing is a better bet.

 

[dahtry7]

blast and cruise would be more effective for dramatic development (ex. 500 test/15 weeks, 15 week trt cruise) dutasteride is not necessary unless your extremely prone to male pattern baldness and will probably make you feel like shit. Research RU58841 and minoxidil as an alternative if you're worried about hair loss. Also at your age HGH will likely only enlarge your ears and nose (looksmin)

 

[dahtry7]

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[Alexander Sorgers]

@lazza

 

[lazza]

im thinking about hoping on 250mg testosterone and 3-6 ius hgh for development (20 years old)
unfortunatly i missed helathmaxing in my peak development years. atm im healthmaxing but im already 20 years old so it will have way less impact on my bone development. I know that clavicles and facial bones will develop until 25 approx, height until 21. i plan on using hgh and testosterone (dutasteride aswell) to max out the potential that is left to develop wider clavicles. ofc this will be a health reducing approach and after i achieved what is still possible ill go back to nature so i wondered if its worth it or if the gain is little to notice that its not

With that dosage you should be able to gain some bone mass in the face giving you a more masculine appearance, but won't be enough to fix a bad forward growth or recessed chin and maxilla.

Frame gains are probable to come both on a skeletal and muscular level, but any height gain would be possible only if your growth plates are still open, which is pretty rare at this age.

If you w.at to check this you should request an X ray, you can say it's just for scoliosi and back pain, and then analyse the X ray with ai.

Testosterone dosage seems standard, but you have to keep in mind that once you start it's a life commitment.

Also you should consult with a trichologist to get the best hgh dosage and avoid becoming a disproportionate orge with acromegaly.

And keep your health monitored if you actually start doing that.